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please help identifying mushrooms picked in Vancouver bc
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Please help to identify mushrooms on the picture.
Mushrooms found Nov. 5 in Vancouver BC at UBC forest under conifer trees (do not know which ones) at the edge of the forest. The earth surface was 100% conifer needles – no grass.
The younger spices all had distinct bluish-purplish tone. The more grown-up spices – more towards brown color though slight blue tone was still there. Interestingly all mushrooms changed color after drying for ~3 hrs in the car. In the field hats were brownish-bluish color, when brought them home they became much lighter – whitish-grayish.
The breaks of the tissue (stems, hats) did not change color.
Spore print - brown. (not rusty, not orange-ish, but not so much blue-ish either.)


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Re: please help identifying mushrooms picked in Vancouver bc [Re: AndreyG]
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They look like an Inocybe sp. to me


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Disclaimer - I'm just a hobbyist and cannot absolutely guarantee any ID offered. I'm most familiar with the species found in the Pacific Northwest - those found in other parts of the world may vary considerably, so always do your own research to find out what grows in your area and what lookalikes you need to be aware of. Understand that many mushroom species cannot be 100% reliably identified by photographs alone, even by an expert, so it may not be possible to go beyond suggesting a probable genus.

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Re: please help identifying mushrooms picked in Vancouver bc [Re: Magic Badger] * 1
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Magic Badger said:
They look like an Inocybe sp. to me



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Re: please help identifying mushrooms picked in Vancouver bc [Re: doctorghosty]
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Inocibe.... wikipedia says they contain psilocybin. And also muscarin. Do people consume them for the sake of psycho - effects? Probably stupid question. I go wash my hands.

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Re: please help identifying mushrooms picked in Vancouver bc [Re: AndreyG] * 1
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The Wiki doesn't exactly say that. It says -  vast majority of Inocybes are toxic, seven rare species of Inocybe are hallucinogenic, having been found to contain psilocybin - which is more than a shade different than 'they contain psilocybin'... there are hundreds of species of Inocybe. They are not uncommon and they are often difficult to ID to the species level.

It would seem rather unlikely that you've somehow walked out and found one of those rare ones (even more unlikely considering it appears that most of them don't even grow in North America), rather than one of the poison ones - and probably unlikely that you would ever be sure of it if by some strange chance you had..


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Disclaimer - I'm just a hobbyist and cannot absolutely guarantee any ID offered. I'm most familiar with the species found in the Pacific Northwest - those found in other parts of the world may vary considerably, so always do your own research to find out what grows in your area and what lookalikes you need to be aware of. Understand that many mushroom species cannot be 100% reliably identified by photographs alone, even by an expert, so it may not be possible to go beyond suggesting a probable genus.

Edited by Magic Badger (11/05/18 10:55 PM)

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Re: please help identifying mushrooms picked in Vancouver bc [Re: Magic Badger]
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Fair enough.
Psilocybin - does blue-ish colors of mushroom indicate Psilocybin?

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Re: please help identifying mushrooms picked in Vancouver bc [Re: AndreyG]
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blueing is a sign of a active mushroom but their are other mushrooms that also stain blue that do not contain psilocybin and are potentaly dangorus like satans bolete.


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Re: please help identifying mushrooms picked in Vancouver bc [Re: luckyfind420]
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Inocybe ionocephala

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Re: please help identifying mushrooms picked in Vancouver bc [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
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Dont confuse the purplish hue if these mushrooms with "blueing" - bluing of psilocybes is distinctive and always looks pretty much the same, varying only by degrees.

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Re: please help identifying mushrooms picked in Vancouver bc [Re: Hamra]
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Indeed - many mushrooms that are not active are purple, and it does not indicate toxicity either
These mushrooms are purple. One is edible, one is likely poisonous, one I am not 100% sure of species

this one displays a small amount of bluing


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Disclaimer - I'm just a hobbyist and cannot absolutely guarantee any ID offered. I'm most familiar with the species found in the Pacific Northwest - those found in other parts of the world may vary considerably, so always do your own research to find out what grows in your area and what lookalikes you need to be aware of. Understand that many mushroom species cannot be 100% reliably identified by photographs alone, even by an expert, so it may not be possible to go beyond suggesting a probable genus.

Edited by Magic Badger (11/06/18 07:45 AM)

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Re: please help identifying mushrooms picked in Vancouver bc [Re: Magic Badger]
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Magic Badger said:
Indeed - many mushrooms that are not active are purple, and it does not indicate toxicity either
These mushrooms are purple. One is edible, one is likely poisonous, one I am not 100% sure of species



Laccaria amethysteo-occidentalis, Inocybe ionocephala, Cortinarius collinitus.

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Re: please help identifying mushrooms picked in Vancouver bc [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
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Alan Rockefeller said:
Magic Badger said:
Indeed - many mushrooms that are not active are purple, and it does not indicate toxicity either
These mushrooms are purple. One is edible, one is likely poisonous, one I am not 100% sure of species



Laccaria amethysteo-occidentalis, Inocybe ionocephala, Cortinarius collinitus.



I'm curious how you came to that conclusion? C. collinitus appear to be pretty universally described as having a brown cap with a purple tinged stem. Does it not look more like an unopened Gomphidius sp, not yet showing black spore deposit? I did not disturb it, I was simply impressed with the level of slime, so I never expected to positively ID...


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Disclaimer - I'm just a hobbyist and cannot absolutely guarantee any ID offered. I'm most familiar with the species found in the Pacific Northwest - those found in other parts of the world may vary considerably, so always do your own research to find out what grows in your area and what lookalikes you need to be aware of. Understand that many mushroom species cannot be 100% reliably identified by photographs alone, even by an expert, so it may not be possible to go beyond suggesting a probable genus.

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Re: please help identifying mushrooms picked in Vancouver bc [Re: Magic Badger]
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psilocin blue is special kind of blue.once you see that color you will remember it.

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Re: please help identifying mushrooms picked in Vancouver bc [Re: Magic Badger]
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Magic Badger said:
I'm curious how you came to that conclusion? C. collinitus appear to be pretty universally described as having a brown cap with a purple tinged stem. Does it not look more like an unopened Gomphidius sp, not yet showing black spore deposit? I did not disturb it, I was simply impressed with the level of slime, so I never expected to positively ID...




It's definitely a Cortinarius from sungenus Myxacium.  I misapplied the name Cortinarius collinitus because I thought I could get away with it, and I am impressed that you called me on it. 

We probably don't get Cortinarius collinitus in North America anyway, but it's still a somewhat useful name to misapply to various slimy Cortinarius species that don't have names yet.

It would be interesting to see what the DNA sequences of this say, if you have $20 to spend on it send it in to http://alvalab.es and ask for an ITS sequence.

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Re: please help identifying mushrooms picked in Vancouver bc [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
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Alan Rockefeller said:
I misapplied the name Cortinarius collinitus because I thought I could get away with it



:allsodisappointed: :lol:

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Re: please help identifying mushrooms picked in Vancouver bc [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
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I'd have to be fortunate enough to find another... That photo is from a few years ago. I know the area well though and visit fairly often, so there's always a chance.


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