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Pot anxiety and hallucinogens
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Why is it that I can eat mushrooms or lsd with no issues, but the second I take just one hit of bud my whole world gets turned upside down?


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Re: Pot anxiety and hallucinogens [Re: Dirty Dave]
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Not taking Set and Setting into account, THC is a powerful psychedelic in its own right.

What is your mindset going into the experience, is your surroundings comfortable ? THC is known to have paranoia as a side effect :p


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"In The Material World One seeks retirement and grows Old
In The Magical World One seeks Enlightenment and grows Wiser
In The Miraculous World One seeks nothing and grows Lighter
As we all tread the Homeward Path we will explore many Realms
And one day... we will all Realize that all experiences are Simply
Different ways in which The
All-That Is
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Re: Pot anxiety and hallucinogens [Re: Eclipse3130]
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I smoked for a decade at least. I quit for a year and now If i smoke I’m the same way. Paranoid as fuck, question my entire existence. My character. My morals. Everything.  Super afraid of being seen high also. I feel compromised. Naked. 

Maybe all this means we are more true to others and ourselves when high. I don’t know.
I can’t fuckin do it anymore though. I dunno how I feel about that either

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Re: Pot anxiety and hallucinogens [Re: NOUS333] * 1
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I used to enjoy indulging in pot. The quality of the experience has changed though after psychedelics. It’s like my sensitivity to it increased to the point that now just one hit gets me beyond fried and I have no idea why.

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Re: Pot anxiety and hallucinogens [Re: CountHTML] * 1
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CountHTML said:
I used to enjoy indulging in pot. The quality of the experience has changed though after psychedelics. It’s like my sensitivity to it increased to the point that now just one hit gets me beyond fried and I have no idea why.



You're not alone, lol. One thing i've found to help me was Lemon EO, 10 drops in a capsule once a day, took it daily for almost 3 years now but lately i've been backing off a good bit. I find the Lemon EO cleans up the Cannabis headspace and makes things more tolerable, it contains terpenes also found in Cannabis, like Limonene and Alpha-Pinene, so it synergizes naturally with the Cannabis.


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Edited by Sabnock (10/31/18 01:10 AM)

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Re: Pot anxiety and hallucinogens [Re: Sabnock]
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Something I find funny is street weed gives me anxiety but the strongest medical bud doesn't. I was just talking to someone last week about this that feels the same way. Idk, I don't wanna say it but I feel like some shits being sprayed on weed somewhere.

All I know is if all the 30% buds from the dispensary font give me that feeling, then 20% street bud shouldn't either.

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Re: Pot anxiety and hallucinogens [Re: nube424]
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Try smoking in the morning too. Give urself a little buffer for yr next smoke so it's more relaxing.

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Re: Pot anxiety and hallucinogens [Re: nube424]
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nube424 said:
Something I find funny is street weed gives me anxiety but the strongest medical bud doesn't. I was just talking to someone last week about this that feels the same way. Idk, I don't wanna say it but I feel like some shits being sprayed on weed somewhere.

All I know is if all the 30% buds from the dispensary font give me that feeling, then 20% street bud shouldn't either.



Medicinal usually has high CBD low THC whereas street bud has been bred to contain high THC and low CBD.

CBD has anti-anxiety properties and is generally good for mental health.

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Re: Pot anxiety and hallucinogens [Re: Warrk]
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Warrk said:
Medicinal usually has high CBD low THC whereas street bud has been bred to contain high THC and low CBD.

CBD has anti-anxiety properties and is generally good for mental health.



This is it. I feel like a parrot, saying this for the nth time, "modern" recreational weed is bad news.

It's not you who changed for the worse, it's the weed you smoke. I've been steering clear of non-medicinal "high potency" strains, and I'm so much better for it. They don't spray it with anything, at least I hope. (I did hear horror stories of no-potency crap weed being "pontentiated" with Chinese RCs...) The ratio of active compounds is enough to explain the subjective difference.

Think about this a little:

Traditional roadside weed: 1% THC : 0.5% CBD = 2:1
Modern high potency weed: 15% THC : 0.5% CBD = 30:1
Modern medicinal weed: 10% THC : 5% CBD = 2:1


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Edited by PsyduckMonkey (10/31/18 04:31 AM)

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Re: Pot anxiety and hallucinogens [Re: PsyduckMonkey]
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It’s unfortunate that you get that type of marijuana where you are. Modern rec is not bad news everywhere. What is roadside weed? Those thc percentages seem low and where did you come up with these ratios. This must be based on where you live. Quality indoor organic cannabis exists


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Legalize Psilocybin.

Edited by Highberger (10/31/18 07:05 AM)

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Re: Pot anxiety and hallucinogens [Re: Dirty Dave]
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With what you've said in mind, be careful not to do both drugs at once. I used to love both shrooms and pot. Only after i mixed them did i ruin this. Now i do not do shrooms, and rarely do pot. When i do, do pot it's always vaping or carefully monitored low doses just for a light buzz.


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Re: Pot anxiety and hallucinogens [Re: Highberger]
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Highberger said:
Quality indoor organic cannabis exists



Indoor usually means hydro and I wouldn't call hydro organic.

True organic would mean bush bud. Grown in the ground in soil, fed by sunshine and rain.

Fertilising plants with a chemical soup is not organic in the proper sense of the word as used in agriculture.

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Re: Pot anxiety and hallucinogens [Re: Warrk]
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I'm aware 15% is low compared to "true" high potency stuff.. The point of me going with this relatively low number is that it's still a completely different chemical profile compared to what our fathers smoked.

By "roadside weed" I mean generic weed of uncertain breeding, usually some mixture of indica and ruderalis, that you might find growing by itself unattended. I recall reading a study somewhere where they put the THC content of such cannabis around 2%, so that's where that number is from.

My point is that any strain that was selected for THC content but not for high CBD (ie. all non-medicinal strains) is potentially paranoia-inducing. I do know that people swear by these strains. I know people who swear by them. I myself smoked them in places where it's legal, and sometimes had a nice enough time. I did also get unpleasantly paranoid a few times however, something that never happened on medicinal strains, no matter how wasted I got on them...

I have a chip on my shoulder about these high potency strains specifically because of people getting emotional scars and being turned off of cannabis by "weed paranoia", and the prejudice fuel it provides prohibitionists with.

ps. they give weed a bad name, too. Weed isn't supposed to give you paranoia, guys. It's supposed to be funny and sensual and creative, and make things look new and exciting...


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Do you believe in the Third Summer of Love?

Edited by PsyduckMonkey (10/31/18 12:32 PM)

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Re: Pot anxiety and hallucinogens [Re: Dirty Dave] * 2
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Dirty Dave said:
Why is it that I can eat mushrooms or lsd with no issues, but the second I take just one hit of bud my whole world gets turned upside down?




This is why I say weed, in a way, is more intense than any other psychedelic. It's ability to make you so paranoid is second to none.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..

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Re: Pot anxiety and hallucinogens [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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Thats not true at all. Ill yake a pic of the bottle. 27% thc and >.10% cbd. Who yold u medical weed has liw thc? Thats only cbd weed thats like that. I definitely aint buyin cbd

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Re: Pot anxiety and hallucinogens [Re: PsyduckMonkey]
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PsyduckMonkey said:
Warrk said:
Medicinal usually has high CBD low THC whereas street bud has been bred to contain high THC and low CBD.

CBD has anti-anxiety properties and is generally good for mental health.



This is it. I feel like a parrot, saying this for the nth time, "modern" recreational weed is bad news.

It's not you who changed for the worse, it's the weed you smoke. I've been steering clear of non-medicinal "high potency" strains, and I'm so much better for it. They don't spray it with anything, at least I hope. (I did hear horror stories of no-potency crap weed being "pontentiated" with Chinese RCs...) The ratio of active compounds is enough to explain the subjective difference.

Think about this a little:

Traditional roadside weed: 1% THC : 0.5% CBD = 2:1
Modern high potency weed: 15% THC : 0.5% CBD = 30:1
Modern medicinal weed: 10% THC : 5% CBD = 2:1



"Medical weed" does not mean it's CBD dominant.. you would buy CBD weed if that's what you wanted. The term medical just means it's medicinally grown for quality. All the "medical weed" I've smoked has been THC dominant, you would ask for CBD if you want it, they don't sell you something without telling you what it is, and over 80% of the weed sold is THC dominant the average content being 20% and up to 30% with less than 1% CBD(in the PNW)

Why weed gives people strong paranoia these days is because one it's an effect of THC, and 2 the marijuana is bred for extremely high THC content, upwards of 30% in some strains, and dabbing concentrates up to 99% in the older days the weed would be much much weaker, and in turn have a more balanced high of cannabinoids I can attest the paranoia comes from the years of genetically strengthened THC weed lacking much of any other cannabinoids, mix some CBD with your weed and it's almost always fine or just smoke something weaker or not nearly as much


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"In The Material World One seeks retirement and grows Old
In The Magical World One seeks Enlightenment and grows Wiser
In The Miraculous World One seeks nothing and grows Lighter
As we all tread the Homeward Path we will explore many Realms
And one day... we will all Realize that all experiences are Simply
Different ways in which The
All-That Is
Perceives Itself"

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Re: Pot anxiety and hallucinogens [Re: Eclipse3130] * 1
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Cosmic courage. Hallucinations need material to build themselves upon.

The night is scary when you cant see anything. Having a light with you answers your worry. (Simpler situation for ex, weve learned not to be scared of dark, you  haven't yet learned to deal with your current anxieties).

All anxiety is based on a vulnerability that you think exists. You can find that thought and destroy it by facing it.


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Re: Pot anxiety and hallucinogens [Re: Warrk]
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Warrk said:
Highberger said:
Quality indoor organic cannabis exists



Indoor usually means hydro and I wouldn't call hydro organic.

True organic would mean bush bud. Grown in the ground in soil, fed by sunshine and rain.

Fertilising plants with a chemical soup is not organic in the proper sense of the word as used in agriculture.




True organic is fine if you live somewhere you can do that most people cannot do true organic especially where it’s illegal and weather doesn’t permit. Plus true organic is bunk in general. Small scale indoor grows use soil arguably as much as hydro. Chemical soup... have you ever heard of compost tea? I’m not trying to argue. I respect your right to have an opinion however I must disagree with you.


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Legalize Psilocybin.

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Re: Pot anxiety and hallucinogens [Re: Highberger]
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What’s the highest percentage of thc you fellas have seen this far


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Re: Pot anxiety and hallucinogens [Re: Highberger]
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I had some 32% star killer. That was the strongest ive had.

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