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Re: Tripping leading to anxiety? [Re: huboldium]
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Yeah thanks.  Cutting dairy from your diet helped?  I don't understand how that would work.  that's not healthy.

Yeah, there is some insane bike trails.  But, unfortunetly no bike.  And it's like -15 out.  I used to bike LOTS.  I would go for like 4-5 hours everyday.  But my bike broke eventually.  Don't have any friends who have any bikes either.  Even if I did, I'm not biking in -15 :wink:

I have hated salad my ENTIRE life...just a couple months ago, I started eating it.  Now I'm making it a daily part of my routine to eat a bowl of salad everyday.

The biggest step is when I stop smoking pot(or slow down considerably).  I know that well help, if not cure it completely.


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Re: Tripping leading to anxiety? [Re: ShRo_0My]
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Well dude are you insecure at all? Maybe you shouldn't trip, or the nxt time do it with 1 or 2 close friend that won't make you feel like shit.

Dilauded

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Re: Tripping leading to anxiety? [Re: juicemonkey]
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Here's some good advice.. You don't have to be the "coolest" guy in your group. You don't need to dose as high as your friends, and there's certianly no reason to dose higher. It might feel good when everyone is in awe of your massive dose, but when the trip comes on, you probably aren't going to be feeling so nice.

When you dose high on psychedelic drugs you have a pretty good chance of feeling or seeing things which you aren't comfortable with. Just because you have dosed high in the past without incident doesn't mean that you're immune to 'bad' trips. One experience is never the same as another, even when taking the same dose. Set and setting are the key here.

Lastly, most people who take psychedelics don't experience paranoia or anxiety for extended periods of time. Typically these feelings occur during the onset and peak of the experience. If you feeling these things after the strongest effects of the drug wear away, you may have other problems. Most 'bad' trips actually end very well. With the user feeling glad to be 'home'.

You have to take care of yourself..

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Re: Tripping leading to anxiety? [Re: ShRo_0My]
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Yo man... being 15 is some rough shit. Pretty soon though, things start getting alot better real fast. I think it's your anxiety making you have bad trips, not your bad trips making you anxious. Come back to the mushroom when you're a little older.

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Re: Tripping leading to anxiety? [Re: ]
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I have been reading this thread and one thing that I see is an attitude that from a more mature perspective can be called...dare I say it..drug abuse.
I'll give you some background. I am 41 years old, smoked alot of pot in my teens and have done lots of psychedelics over the years. I am not judging your choice of substances (it could be MUCH worse) ..however...here is where I have a problem. Quotes such as "I don't smoke much pot, maybe 5 or 6 bowls a day" etc. Or "it is hard NOT to take shrooms or LSD as there is so much supply".
Look,these substances are precious and can be great teachers IF THEY ARE RESPECTED. When you smoke everyday or trip because it is the thing to do you are not respecting it. Did it occur to you to try eating mushrooms without smoking marijuana at all? It works for me,much less axiety. Howabout getting to the point of saying "I don't smoke pot much, maybe once or twice a month". That would be healthy in my opinion. 15 is an age where you develop the habits that will take you through life. It is a time when it is essential to learn to discipline yourself, to teach yourself to work hard and do things that are challanges.If you feel satsfied with your efforts in life and have time to relax, by all means smoke a bowl IF YOU ENJOY IT. Or plan a special time when you and your friends can take some mushrooms or LSD and have an adventure. then after your adventure, rest up, think about what you experienced and work on creating good habits in school and your other interests.
I realize that I am coming off parental here, I actually do have a 15 year old son myself who is very close to me and can talk to me about anything. ometimes it is hard for a parent to not want to smack a kid on the head (figuratively) and say WAKE UP! If it hurts when you do that, maybe just don't do it for awhile till you sort out why it hurts. Give yourself some breathing room so taht you know the difference betwen being high and baseline conciousness and take it from there. No rush

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Re: Tripping leading to anxiety? [Re: Dropsy]
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hmm..thanks for your advice.  Although, I don't think it pertains to me.  I can't quite remember if I said anything about tripping and having problems or whatever.  We were talking about having anxiety and such.  I don't think that has anything to do with me, 'caring about being cool'.

I haven't abused psychedelics.  I haven't used them very much even.  Set and setting is key.  I'm not worried about 'bad trips'.  There ARE no bad trips.  Whether you people agree, thats my philosophy.  I've always enjoyed my trip.  And although I haven't taken massive doses, they haven't been small either.  I could care less what my 'friends' think.  I don't trip for my friends.  I trip for myself.  I've always loved tripping.  Tripping is for me, and only me.  I enjoy unsettling images and such.  It's all part of a higher dose experience.  I'm not that afraid. Than again, I haven't reached ego death yet...so I can't say I will never be afraid.  Either way, I enjoy tripping.  And I let the drug do what it wants with me.

I have never experienced ANY paranoia or anxiety when I was tripping...BUT...I have now(after my last trip) developed an anxiety disorder.  I haven't tripped since it started.  I've been worried about what might happen.  I've been thinking, "well, when I smoke pot, my anxiety gets so bad and I have a full out attack sometimes even...shrooms and lsd are stronger...so I can imagine how bad it would make my anxiety".
But after talking with people on the shroomery and doing a lot of thinking...I've come to the conclusion, this is not the case.  Yes, I have an anxiety disorder(for now)...and yes pot makes it 10X worse...but lsd and mushrooms are totally different.  They effect the body totally different.  If anything, when I trip again, it's going to relieve my anxiety.

But, I still want to make sure I get the most out of my tripping and I plan to do it for sometime.  So I'd like to get rid of this anxiety for good.  I've quit smoking pot very recently.  I plan to go ahead with it.  I plan to trip for my birthday which is coming up fairly soon, and I can't wait :laugh:


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Re: Tripping leading to anxiety? [Re: yogi]
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good advice. I very much agree. I used to abuse drugs. Maybe not as much as some people, but I did. I smoked pot everyday for over a year...and jsut did it because 'it was fun, and part of the routine'. Than for a small period of time, I was using mushrooms or lsd once or twice a month.

Like I said above, I have recently quit smoking pot completely...and I feel thats a big step


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Re: Tripping leading to anxiety? [Re: juicemonkey]
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My post was not individual specific though it was mostly directed to beginner of this post.I have noticed that for some reason pot smoking seems to contribute to anxiety for some people and psychedelics don't necessarily have that same effect. i am one of those people but so is my wife who is very clear on that because she still occasionally smokes pot whereas I haven't smoked it in years. lately when she smokes she gets anxiety attacks that she needs to get through before she can relax and enjoy the high. We ate mushrooms recently and she did not smoke with them. There was no anxiety at all for her! I think that what I am trying to say is that marijuana smoking is so pervasive for many young people that they are unable to seperate anxiety disorders from a bad reaction to smoking. Marijuana is good medicine for some people but clearly not all and smokers often do not understand that. If you are having anxiety when you trip, just try NOT smoking pot next time and see what happens, it might be the solution. Pot is expensive, not good for everyone and if it is not your medicine can make you distictly uncomfortable feeling that you need to "work through" something, when what may need to be worked through is the habit of smoking itself!
Healthy use of psychedelics can be an incredible growth experience, but if you don't give yourself a chance to catch your breath in between trips it can mess you up as well and lead to confusion and self doubt. As Terrence Mckenna has said "psychedelics are a discipline, a life path" and need to be learned carefully if they are for you. Personally I am for drug experiences and against drug habits. Thats my bias, though some people do seem to benefit from regular pot smoking I think that is a symptom of needing medicine for some reason not a recipe for the average person.

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Re: Tripping leading to anxiety? [Re: yogi]
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yogi... everyone's dad should be as cool as you man!  :grin:

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Re: Tripping leading to anxiety? [Re: ]
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Thanks Mush. Hope I didn't come off too wordy or preachy

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Re: Tripping leading to anxiety? [Re: juicemonkey]
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"Yeah thanks. Cutting dairy from your diet helped? I don't understand how that would work. that's not healthy."

holy shit I am gonna laugh so hard I crap myself
eat dairy if you want but god damn dont say its good for you FUCK
www.notmilk.com
oh and I personally I eat free range eggs and what I think (think) is good chicken and I eat tofu and very little fish
meat could be okay if we did not live in such a polluted world
or if farmer didnt use so many CHEMS
fucking gross
anyway lets go back to rasie animals RIGHT!!!! for the animals and the people who will one day eat them or feed them to their children
good conitions produce better healthier meat simple !

:wink: 


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Re: Tripping leading to anxiety? [Re: huboldium]
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im 16 and ive done shrooms like 5 times in the past few months...the first trip my perspective wasnt altered, but after a few trips i dont look at the world the same anymore...i sorta dont like this but o well shit happens, just smoke lots of pot to ease your anxiety, do some X when you trip shrooms so you dont panic. weed is a definate mind reliever for me, god placed it on this earth for good reasons

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Re: Tripping leading to anxiety? [Re: liftedoff420]
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hehe, wow, i thought this thread was dead. I havn't tripped on anything for about 3-4 months. I do appreciate shrooms, and the trips, i DO NOT take them for granted....i did, but you guys have told me not to, and i have learned from that. I'm probably going to take some liquid lsd in the next week, and then im on to making some salvia extract. Freinds have told me that getting drunk or high before a trip can make you lose the anxious feeling...i havnt tried it, so i dont know. Thank you for all your opinions, im definetly gonna take some advice.

peace.


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Guillotine to your spleen
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Re: Tripping leading to anxiety? [Re: ShRo_0My]
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lucky bastard...ive been looking everywhere for acid, cant be fucking found

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Re: Tripping leading to anxiety? [Re: poke smot!]
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Liftedoff420, thats the thing about weed, its such a nice drug and eases all sorts of pain and IS in fact a good good medicine, but when overused it can totally take a u-turn on the anxiety...

Its so easy to get used to smoking everyday, but I dont think thats the way cannabis was supposed to be used. I dunno but sometimes when I trip I feel the drug in my body as a poison and I feel how and in which way it is fucking me up and it all of a sudden seems weird... fascinating... that alot of people go out of their way to put this poison in their body to achieve this feeling, then sometimes when I smoke while tripping I ask my self, "Why did I smoke again, it just feels like I drank a cup of paranoia" and the worlds view of drugs baffle me. The worlds of view of drugs really IS fucked up, imagine shamans and indian tribes would see how our civilization classifies Peyote, Shrooms, DMT... as a "drug" along with crack, heroin, E and all of that nowadays. -for them its nature's ticket to a beautifull god- And the people who do drugs are actually really obsessed with it and do as much as often as possible, most of which smoke like every day. When I trip these thoughts strike me in this perspective and I'm just basically saying, treat psychedelics with respect, treat weed as a medicine...
Personally me and MaryJane are taking a break, but not breaking UP.


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Dont take drugs to get fucked up, take psychedelics to learn...

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Re: Tripping leading to anxiety? [Re: poke smot!]
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I agree completely about the sleep/dream cycle.Sometimes if you trip alot you can feel that you don't need to sleep as much but that really means that you shouldn't trip as much! The mind needs to release its reality bind with the dream state and that keeps us sane, if you don't dream you go crazy for real!  When I used to have the 7 day rule with acid I never had a problem. It gives your nervous system and psyche a chance to recover. I am not saying that the occasional 2 day trip is a bad  thing, but just be careful and realize that you need extra rest afterwards.
I have eaten mushrooms on the past 2 saturdays and aside from having stomachaches from them had no problem whatsoever. The first time was actually quite milder than the second but the first time was dry and the second time fresh.
I personally don't smoke pot at all because I was getting anxiety reactions and physical discomfort when I smoked. After not doing either for over 5 years I am happy to find that the mushrooms do not give me the same reaction as pot. This really makes me happy because I used to love psychedelics but stopped using them because of bad reactions. Like many of you I always used to smoke along with it and now I don't.
Here is another tip that I discovered years ago. If you like to smoke pot while tripping I would suggest waiting till after the peak when you want to brighten things back up. When I smoked pot before the peak it made the experience more confusing for me and hard to focus. You really need to discover for yourself what works but its good to :grin: experiment and hear what others have experienced. Personally for me I would LOVE to use DMT to brighten the colors rather than pot. Alas I have no idea where to get any but I'm not worried. It is neither necessary nor impossible to find. If you ask you shall receive....

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Re: Tripping leading to anxiety? [Re: yogi]
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maybe pot works different for you, i dont get paranoid off that shit..ive smoked so much damn chronic that its more of just a relaxant now....much different high than when i first started toking

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Re: Tripping leading to anxiety? [Re: liftedoff420]
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The pot smoking can definitely hurt. My first time taking acid was fucking great until me and the people I was with smoked about 5 bowls. MAJOR social anxiety set in. This is coming from a huge stoner. I'm kind of a pessimistic person in general, and when I get too stoned my thought process just devolves into self-loathing... i.e. analyzing everything negative in my life and not being able to think of the positives...pretty fucking awful for an acid trip.

Definitely try running. Its pretty fucking difficult if you haven't done it in a while, but I'd recommend taking a light toke and going for a run while listening to music. The pot makes the physical discomfort a little more bearable and gives you more of an appreciation for being outdoors. Makes you feel shitloads better once your done though. Pretty sure there is some scientific shit to back this up...exercise combatting depression/anxiety and what not. And yeah even if you hate fruit try drinking a glass of OJ in the morning or at least take some vitamins or something.

But yeah I went through my first year of college basically being high all the time... felt miserable but its tough to break the cycle, especially with sleep problems (I get those too). Exercise helps with that. But now I try not to smoke much unless I'm at a show/festival or some such thing. Hell, I went to an STS9 show the other night and rolled fuckin face (.6) this girl I was with smoked me down with like 3 bowls afterwards to help come down and get to sleep...Bad move. Still couldn't sleep but as soon as I got high I went from enjoying myself with this girl to just becoming a social mess... Couldn't say anything to her without immediately thinking "your such an idiot, she must think your so weird, just stop talking...etc."


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It is impossible to convey the life-sensation of any given epoch of one's existence--that which makes its truth, its meaning--its subtle and penetrating essence. It is impossible. We live, as we dream--alone.

It's legs to walk and thoughts to fly
Eyes that laugh and lips that cry
A restless tongue to classify,
All born to grow and grown to die

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Re: Tripping leading to anxiety? [Re: PMATL]
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NECROMANCER  :loudnoises:


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He believed that educated people
could make up their own minds. His motto, as head of one of the first and
most important review panels, was great encouragement: "We're not here
to play God."

-DMT: The Spirit Molecule

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