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Smoking mushrooms...
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How about smoking mushrooms? I have read a few carlos casteneda books with many references to smoking a mushroom mixture.. Wondering if anyone had any thoughts or experiences...

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Re: Smoking mushrooms... [Re: Sporaticus]
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It's a waste.

Yes, it will do something to you, but a LOT of the psilocin/psilocybin is destroyed by the heat. So it's a huge waste of mushrooms.

I've heard that smoking them will hit you a lot quicker than normal, though. Think I also heard that the trip doesn't last nearly as long, and isn't very strong (like a mild level 1 trip).

Try it if you want, but in my opinion it's a waste of valuable mushrooms.


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Re: Smoking mushrooms... [Re: Sporaticus]
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back before i knew anything i decided to smoke some while tripping. me and the other 4 guys there smoked a bowl of shroom and geeked out for about 5-10 minutes. man, i felt high as fuck, but it was obviously just me making myself think that(i was already tripping afterall). of course i ended up trying this again while sober and did nothing but waste shrooms. don't do it, it doesn't do anything. and if you get anywhere near a mild trip you would have to smoke a shitload. just eat the mofo's.


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Re: Smoking mushrooms... [Re: AbstractSoul]
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Yea, same here abstract, me and a few buddies actually smoked about 4 bowls of really good mushrooms a long time ago while tripping, just made me feel really ignorant and sort of stoned and it actually deminished my hallucinations. I wouldnt never do it again, such a waste.


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Re: Smoking mushrooms... [Re: homage_etd]
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You wouldn't never do it again huh...


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Re: Smoking mushrooms... [Re: Sporaticus]
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a waste, yes - unless you like that oxy-dep high :wink:

some friends and i smoked some amanitas per the directions over @ erowid - 'bout 12 bowls - did nothing... the smoke was pretty smooth though :tongue:
 


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Re: Smoking mushrooms... [Re: Sporaticus]
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Well some types of Psilocybin containing mushrooms do indeed contain DMT - but whether it is enough to POSIBBLY have any effect when smoked I do not know .


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Re: Smoking mushrooms... [Re: Food]
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>>Well some types of Psilocybin containing mushrooms do indeed contain DMT

Really??
Like which ones, and where do you find this information.


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Re: Smoking mushrooms... [Re: Sporaticus]
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I like to shoot my shrooms up IM


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Re: Smoking mushrooms... [Re: GRiMBLe_GRuMBLe]
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Its been proven - check erowid.org


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Re: Smoking mushrooms... [Re: Sporaticus]
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Don't do it the heat would just kill the psilocybin and it would not work, basically pointless and a waste to try it. You will/might get a buzz though but thats mainly due to inhaling the smoke and that has nothing to do with the psilocybin in the shrooms to make you trip.
Hell if someone did a line of sugar theyd probably get a dizzyness for a min but whats the point when thered be more use for cooking needs and its dumb lol!

so EAT them!

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Re: Smoking mushrooms... [Re: Sporaticus]
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I did once, It was the worst tasting smoke I have ever tasted, and I have smoked just about everything I could find in the forest at one time or the other. Don't try it, made me feel like shit.

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Re: Smoking mushrooms... [Re: ShroomNewb]
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Over all it's GAY! Don't do it. :smile: 


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Re: Smoking mushrooms... [Re: KoOs]
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Castenada was a fake who made everything he wrote up. "Mescalito" - what bullshit is that. "Mescaline" was only named in 1919, and castenada thinks the ancient indians were calling the spirit of peyote "mescalito"? What a clown.


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Re: Smoking mushrooms... [Re: Xlea321]
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Maybe he was talking about soma (Amanita Muscaria) mushrooms. I have heard that you can get effects from smoking those. Anybody have first hand experience, or know someone that does?


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Re: Smoking mushrooms... [Re: CuckoosNest]
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Don't think amantia is too commonly used by the mexican indians tho. If at all. I think he meant psilocybin shrooms - there was a myth going round at the time that smoking them got you high - just kids confusing them with pot. He must've heard that and just ran with it.

Never heard too many successful trip reports with amantia - seems to just make you ill.


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Re: Smoking mushrooms... [Re: Xlea321]
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Was especially thankful to one special person for introducing us to the wonderful state induced by smoked Amanita Muscaria. About 2 sq cm of the dried, peeled skin from the reddish cap were crumbled and smoked in a pipe along with a tiny bit of MJ to mellow out the otherwise rather harsh smoke.

Experienced a very nice alteration, somewhat akin to a strong MJ buzz without the loss of lucidity and memory usually noticed. Also, the cottonmouth effect of the MJ was pleasantly neutralized by the increase in salivation that the Amanita induces.

This Amanita/MJ smoking mix is highly recommended, especially as a stretcher, enhancer or even replacement for MJ. Was told that the effects from smoking this mushroom are significantly different from those experienced after eating it. Personally, had no noticable unpleasant side or after effects.

http://www.erowid.org/plants/amanitas/amanitas_smoked.shtml


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Re: Smoking mushrooms... [Re: CuckoosNest]
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The main phycoactive ingredient in Amanitas doesn't break down in the heat from a lighter so smoking amanitas sounds like a plan to me. However smoking cubensis mushrooms is not worth it.


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Re: Smoking mushrooms... [Re: Sporaticus]
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I was speculating (and speculating is definitely the operative word) in another forum about smoking 'shrooms or psychoactive cacti, or more specifically, certain extracts thereof.  What if you did a methanolic extraction on the mushies, mixed that into basified water, mix with a non-polar solvent, separate the solvent layer, and strip off the solvent? This should leave us with psilocybin (and psilocin if it didn't decompose somewhere along the line?) freebase.  Maybe the freebase form vaporizes at a much lower temp than the salt forms do, thus being much easier to vaporize without decomposing.  Being chemically illiterate, my only basis for this euphimistically titled "hypothesis," is that freebase cocaine and it's baseborn spawn, crack, are much more smokably active than cocaine HCl for that reason, and that I've read that only the freebase form of DMT is smokably active.  I would suppose similar things could be done with mescaline from the appropriate cacti.  I would guess that one would vaporize this in an oil pipe, or maybe even a vaporizer or crack pipe.  Maybe it would be a quicker, more intense trip than oral administration?  I have no idea whether there is any reason to try this shit (I'm kinda guessing that if there was much to it, somebody would know by now)--but I'd like to try it next time I score some mushies or Peruvian Torch, or finally get my own cultivation projects off the ground :wink:!  Anyway, let me know if I'm an idiot.  Oh yeah, would MAOI's help with this, anyone? 


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Re: Smoking mushrooms... [Re: mrhappy]
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click here, look for my post.


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Re: Smoking mushrooms... [Re: UrbanistiC]
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I seriously don't recommend smoking mushrooms. I don't know why there is this big controversy, am I the only person who sees the danger in smoking a fungus?

Hello lung infection.


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"I had a friend once who told me that the worst mistake that you can make is to think that you are alive, when really you're asleep in life's waiting room." -waking life

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Re: Smoking mushrooms... [Re: CuckoosNest]
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cuckoos - just to add mho..

as i stated way up in the beginning of this post.. i have smoked amanitas per the directions over at erowid. a whoppin' 12 bowls with three other friends. maybe it was the shrooms, although they certainly looked like amanitas, but we just received a slight (what i would consider to be an oxygen deprivation) high. i wouldn't do it again, but hey.. if it works for you, good stuff


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Re: Smoking mushrooms... [Re: geokills]
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is it just the red skin on the caps that get you high when smoking or is it everything in the cap?

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Re: Smoking mushrooms... [Re: Sporaticus]
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Re: Smoking mushrooms... [Re: Ole Field Trashe]
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PFFFFFT!!!!!:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Smoking mushrooms... [Re: 5553]
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5553 said:
is it just the red skin on the caps that get you high when smoking or is it everything in the cap?


Supposedly yes, but like I said - I've tried it and found it worthless.


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Re: Smoking mushrooms... [Re: geokills]
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Carlos Castaneda was a fool. He ran away from Don Juan in book two i think i recall and wrote yet another two books full of shite while estranged from his teacher before goin' back with his tail between his legs. I would not even invite Carlos round for a smoke let alone a trip session.
But when you think of it i would'nt enjoy some old man fcukin' around with my head freakin' me out every chance he got.
Fills him full of gear then tells him that the old lady down the roads gonna' steal his soul!?! Whats that about.

But back to the topic at hand. While trippin' i have smoked mushrooms with effect. This is nothin' new i think i've typed this before on the same debate.
While in Holland i've bought and smoked 'shroom joints with pleasant, not trippin', but pleasant results.



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Re: Smoking mushrooms... [Re: SummerBreeze]
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Yes, Castaneda was a fool. But no more or less of a fool than any one of us. He walked his path and learned.

It doesn't matter if Carlos made up everything he wrote about or actually experienced it. Read between the lines.

Don Juan is the man.

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Re: Smoking mushrooms... [Re: Shiva_Shiver]
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I got curious and just took about 3 large tooks, there is a significant stony effect and warm body feeling, it is a waste, but oh well, if ya got alot who cares!! :smile2: 


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Re: Smoking mushrooms... [Re: Cubieman420]
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I smoked some shake left over from an 8th I had...I remember feeling a great body buzz but nothing more than that.


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Re: Smoking mushrooms... [Re: Harbinger]
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Thats it exactly. You dont break through but you do get nicely toasted from smokin' them. I've been doin' a lot of readin 'on the subject the last couple of days and opinion does seem to be divided but i stand by my own experience.

Don Juan, yes he was the man, sounded like quite an entertainin' person.
But wee Carlos, now, theres a different kettle of mouldy fish. Talk about not bein' able to handle your drugs?!? I think it was his inability to simply believe in what Don Juan was tellin' him, eg, "Yes, but when you say i fly do i actualy change into a bird?", to which Don answers, "Does it matter?", which kept him grounded with fear.


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Re: Smoking mushrooms... [Re: SummerBreeze]
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Please Please Please lock this thread, there is no point to trying to smoke shrooms. There is even countless threads that exist on this board already on the subject if you did a forum search.


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Re: Smoking mushrooms... [Re: EvilGir]
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Smoke 'em if ya got 'em!


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Re: Smoking mushrooms... [Re: SummerBreeze]
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i wana know about Amanita Muscaria smoking, nobody has said anything on that. smoke the whole cap or just the red skin on the cap?

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Re: Smoking mushrooms... [Re: 5553]
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I tried smoking aminitas and i got quite noticable effects from them.
What i did was pick about 3 BIG mushrooms, then carefully cut the red skin from the cap off, making sure to keep a bit of the flesh in(for absorbancy, needed later.. just make sure there are no gills, cuz of the spores...)
After you have the red skins set aside, take a shallow pan and put the skins on the pan, with the flesh side facing up.
Now we want to take the remaining mushroom parts and stick them in a plastic ziplock bag. Cut a hole in the bottom corner of the bag, and squeeze all the juice from the musrhooms on top of the caps on the pan.
Next we stick the pan in a preheated oven(170-200F) and keep the door open to let the steam out. As the mushrooms start to dry and their "juices" sweat out, use a spoon or a medicine dropper to collect and put back on the mushroom skins.
When they are finally done drying, you will be left with a resonous black SHRUNKEN skin. I find smoking it with marijuana increases the effects of my bud and keeps me goin for longer!
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Re: Smoking mushrooms... [Re: Grovesk8ter]
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Have you ever ingested muscarias orally and if so how was the experience different from smoking them?


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Re: Smoking mushrooms... [Re: EvilGir]
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"There is even countless threads that exist on this board already on the subject if you did a forum search."
ya and this is one of them...this thread was from over a year and a half ago :grin: 


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  Edited by yageman (04/20/06 4:20 PM) 

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Re: Smoking mushrooms... [Re: Ekstaza]
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Ekstaza said:
Have you ever ingested muscarias orally?


Nope sorry, too scared to die.....


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Re: Smoking mushrooms... [Re: Grovesk8ter]
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everytime i've smoke cubes a few minutes later i feel like i have lint or some small debris on my face. :confused:

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Re: Smoking mushrooms... [Re: Twista]
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You cannot get high smoking psilocybe mushrooms.

mj

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