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Re: Pot anxiety and hallucinogens [Re: Highberger]
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Highberger said:
True organic is fine if you live somewhere you can do that most people cannot do true organic especially where it’s illegal and weather doesn’t permit. Plus true organic is bunk in general. Small scale indoor grows use soil arguably as much as hydro. Chemical soup... have you ever heard of compost tea? I’m not trying to argue. I respect your right to have an opinion however I must disagree with you.


Anything small scale is good, it means attention to detail, quality and no compromises.

The vast majority of indoor hydro, run by syndicates, has one aim and one aim only and that is to produce as much in as quick a time as possible while trying to maintain quality. This is no different to any commercial enterprise.

Apparently the trend in Canada is to use soil in indoor grows, everything else being the same as hydro. This produces wicked quality it seems.

How many growers do you know who use compost tea and do things semi-organic Highberger? It is one thing for compost tea to exist, another thing for it to be used.


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Psilocybe subaeruginosa fish tank moss terrarium

Subaeruginosa colonised substrate offer on Gumtree

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Re: Pot anxiety and hallucinogens [Re: Perusha_Kyuden]
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Perusha_Kyuden said:
Cosmic courage. Hallucinations need material to build themselves upon.

The night is scary when you cant see anything. Having a light with you answers your worry. (Simpler situation for ex, weve learned not to be scared of dark, you  haven't yet learned to deal with your current anxieties).

All anxiety is based on a vulnerability that you think exists. You can find that thought and destroy it by facing it.



Gotta drop the Marcuspill now.

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Re: Pot anxiety and hallucinogens [Re: Perusha_Kyuden]
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Perusha_Kyuden said:
Cosmic courage. Hallucinations need material to build themselves upon.

The night is scary when you cant see anything. Having a light with you answers your worry. (Simpler situation for ex, weve learned not to be scared of dark, you  haven't yet learned to deal with your current anxieties).

All anxiety is based on a vulnerability that you think exists. You can find that thought and destroy it by facing it.


generally, I have a very smooth open continuum of experience if I am aware that mind is resonating in tune with my surrounds, and I need not be defensive at all, however,
on weed, sometimes,
I can just be lying in bed watching a video,
and I may suddenly feel disoriented and confused - in a sudden panic tension ramp. (not the craw, Max, THE CRAW!)

I can counter this quickly by relaxing - remembering to tune into what is happening, loosening my muscles, and not getting defensive.


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Re: Pot anxiety and hallucinogens [Re: redgreenvines]
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that sounds great, I would like to do that too

I used to lie in bed and watch how I met your mother on weed. and salvia. great times, now that I think back on it

I have finally realized the truth about life's positivity
with the man not walking back into the poisoned room
miaw


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Make love not war
And art
Save the planet
Fix the earth

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Re: Pot anxiety and hallucinogens [Re: Ferdinando]
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I feel the same way about THC. I joke that I could handle a 10 strip much better than a bong rip. In fact I've had full on brief psychotic breaks from THC. Scary shit. I will occasionally smoke, but I keep the dose very low. I also find that if I take one very small hit and wait about 20 mins, I can smoke a little more since the anxiety stage has passed.

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Re: Pot anxiety and hallucinogens [Re: Warrk]
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Warrk said:
Anything small scale is good, it means attention to detail, quality and no compromises.

The vast majority of indoor hydro, run by syndicates, has one aim and one aim only and that is to produce as much in as quick a time as possible while trying to maintain quality. This is no different to any commercial enterprise.

Apparently the trend in Canada is to use soil in indoor grows, everything else being the same as hydro. This produces wicked quality it seems.

How many growers do you know who use compost tea and do things semi-organic Highberger? It is one thing for compost tea to exist, another thing for it to be used.


Everything I come across is atleast semi-organic. Teas are everywhere.


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Free Ross Ulbricht.
Legalize Psilocybin.

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Re: Pot anxiety and hallucinogens [Re: Highberger]
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I might partake again later on in life, but as of now, I’m staying pot free. I don’t even want to risk my sanity trying out some of the suggestions. I do appreciate it though.


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Re: Pot anxiety and hallucinogens [Re: Dirty Dave] * 1
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You can always try strains which are more heavy on the CBD side. It’s the THC that fucks people up nowadays.

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Re: Pot anxiety and hallucinogens [Re: Lootje] * 1
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"Once again, it is necessary to quantify the biochemical components of a given Cannabis strain and correlate these with the observed effects in real patients. Beyond the increasing number of CBD predominant strains in recent years, almost all Cannabis on the market has been from high-THC strains. The differences in observed effects in Cannabis are then due to their terpenoid content, which is rarely assayed, let alone reported to potential consumers. The sedation of the so-called indica strains is falsely attributed to CBD content when, in fact, CBD is stimulating in low and moderate doses! Rather, sedation in most common Cannabis strains is attributable to their myrcene content, a monoterpene with a strongly sedative couch-lock effect that resembles a narcotic. In contrast, a high limonene content (common to citrus peels) will be uplifting on mood, while the presence of the relatively rare terpene in Cannabis, alpha-pinene, can effectively reduce or eliminate the short-term memory impairment classically induced by THC."

Hence, one reason i like Lemon EO a lot, because it has a high Limonene and Alpha-Pinene content, with little to no Myrcene content as far as i can tell. But Orange EO, while it may have Limonene and Alpha-Pinene as well, contains higher amounts of Myrcene, and as such, Lemon EO makes it feel more like a high, whereas Orange EO makes it feel more stony. Also why different terpenes can modulate the effects of THC like the memory side-effect which Lemon EO can counteract. So if you wanna change how Cannabis feels to you, might wanna test out some essential oils which contain the terpenes you want. And what's cool is there's many plants out there that contain the same kinds of terpenes, although the oil you use can bring with it a certain feel/spirit/influence of the plant the oil comes from because aside from having the same terpenes it also has some other compounds associated with the specific plant and has a different combination/ratio of the same terpenes.


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Re: Pot anxiety and hallucinogens [Re: Dirty Dave]
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Dirty Dave said:
I might partake again later on in life, but as of now, I’m staying pot free. I don’t even want to risk my sanity trying out some of the suggestions. I do appreciate it though.


Why not just smoke less? Nothing wrong with taking one toke.

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Re: Pot anxiety and hallucinogens [Re: Dirty Dave]
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I want to try moon rocks. They are balls of really good weed that has hash oil in them. I think they also have keif sprinkled on top


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.

It's just a shot away..

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Re: Pot anxiety and hallucinogens [Re: nube424]
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Same here. 32% Luke Skywalker in Colorado. It was nuts. Took one hit, awesome. Half way through the second, well, that was a mistake lol.


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Sorry for wasting your time, or not. 
God bless -LoverOfTheLight

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Re: Pot anxiety and hallucinogens [Re: LoveroftheLight]
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Moon rocks around here are mdma rock


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If your mouth ain’t bloody you’re not eating the ass right


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Re: Pot anxiety and hallucinogens [Re: Dirty Dave]
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Dirty Dave said:
Moon rocks around here are mdma rock



Yeah same here but there's also weed moon rocks. Look them up they are mouth watering


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.

It's just a shot away..

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Re: Pot anxiety and hallucinogens [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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Moon rock seema like a waste. Id rather smoke a bowl with some kief on it and take a dab after.

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Re: Pot anxiety and hallucinogens [Re: nube424]
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For some people cannabis is not that plain sailing as for others. Cannabis is able to trigger psychosis and anxiety disorder, so better be careful. If you are not feeling fine and happy using pot, don't use it.

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Re: Pot anxiety and hallucinogens [Re: Sabnock]
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It's not "THC that fucks you up", it's "THC with little or no CBD for balance that fucks you up".

And yes, terpenes are important, but not important like CBD. Terpenes impact the "flavor" of high, but they won't protect you from long-term neurotoxicity or short-term paranoiac moments. CBD does.

So, say, you're out cycling. Having the terpenes you like is riding in a scenery you enjoy, with vegetation and birds around you, nice mountain breeze to breath in, etc. They give meaning to your experience and make it pleasant and worthwhile. Having CBD in proportion to THC is like having brakes on your bike that actually work well. It makes sure you're not going to get seriously hurt.


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Do you believe in the Third Summer of Love?

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Re: Pot anxiety and hallucinogens [Re: PsyduckMonkey]
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PsyduckMonkey said:
It's not "THC that fucks you up", it's "THC with little or no CBD for balance that fucks you up".

And yes, terpenes are important, but not important like CBD. Terpenes impact the "flavor" of high, but they won't protect you from long-term neurotoxicity or short-term paranoiac moments. CBD does.


There is no long term neurotoxicity from smoking Cannabis, and yes, terpenes do counteract the anxiety and paranoia side-effects of Cannabis, as well as the memory issues, particularly Limonene and Alpha-Pinene, i use Lemon EO, works like a charm with Cannabis and i have no anxiety or paranoia when i take 10 drops of Lemon EO in a capsule a day. I'm sure CBD has some benefits, but it seems at least ime the terpenes are just as important as if not more so than CBD.


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Re: Pot anxiety and hallucinogens [Re: Sabnock]
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I am proof that..atleast dabs..can cause psychosis. If you smoke hash oil all day, you can really go fucking crazy. And when I say crazy, I mean cRaazYy


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.

It's just a shot away..

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Re: Pot anxiety and hallucinogens [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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I don't know guys I dab a grab every 2-3 for my pain mixing in cbd only occasionally. Get no negatives other than not really being hungry if I dont smoke. Never any anxiety, guess its normal with habitual smokers? :shrug:

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