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Re: Wary about friend [Re: MrCraggles]
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Possibly. Tea definitely intensifies things in ways I don't like.

I could definitely eat 10g but i'm not sure I would enjoy 10g in a tea all at once.

Only one way to find out...

But I myself will not be dosing high doses in tea ever again :shrug:


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Re: Wary about friend [Re: MrCraggles]
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MrCraggles said:
Omg I can't even imagine what 10g in tea would be like haha. It would be pure hell! I wish it was possible for me to experience it for like 20 seconds just to have a peak.


You can, it's called 50mg dmt


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Re: Wary about friend [Re: internal traveler]
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internal traveler said:
MrCraggles said:
Omg I can't even imagine what 10g in tea would be like haha. It would be pure hell! I wish it was possible for me to experience it for like 20 seconds just to have a peak.


You can, it's called 50mg dmt


Nooo I know what you're saying but smoked DMT is just a thing of it's own. Above about 6g mushrooms and I'm just starting to get a bit confused. I reckon I'll try again though and go 7g. Think I just need to adjust a bit. I love 6 gram doses.


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Re: Wary about friend [Re: MrCraggles]
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I've taken 10g and even 15g doses but that was with tolerance so it doesn't count.

Can somebody try to explain to me what a 10g dose of mushrooms is like?


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Re: Wary about friend [Re: MrCraggles]
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dmt is not the same as mushrooms.

Also eating mushrooms is not the same as drinking a dose of tea all at once.

I've eaten 140g fresh mushrooms and it was a great experience similar to the trips on doses ranging from 5g-10g.

I did a tea with 200g fresh and it was pure hell, nothing even remotely close to eating 140g fresh.


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Re: Wary about friend [Re: jdawg333]
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Well, if he's an adult, it's up to him. If he's not an adult, you probably aren't either and neither of you should be making these decisions.

As far as defects, we all have them. Narcissism specifically is nasty, but shrooms may be the cure, not the problem. If you're worried about something actually far off course - like schizophrenia or other mental disease - that's a different thing entirely, but shrooms won't kill him just because he's self absorbed. Sure, maybe he won't enjoy them, but that's okay. Maybe it will change him inside. They do that sometimes.

I wouldn't stress too much my man, there isn't a whole lot you can do here anyway. Be supportive, voice your concerns, and move on with life!

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Re: Wary about friend [Re: MercuryJack]
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OP, a different question is, if he's not ready now in your opinion, when will he be ready? What needs to happen? And how will this happen? If his ego needs a bit of looking at, do you foresee him doing that in any other way? Or will you always be uncomfortable with him doing them under your guidance? Are you happy being responsible for guiding him? Are you feeling pressure for him to have a "good" trip? If it's difficult for him, would you be ok supporting him through it? Will you be sober (sorry if I've missed that one)?

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Re: Wary about friend [Re: Acuriousmycologist]
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Acuriousmycologist said:
OP, a different question is, if he's not ready now in your opinion, when will he be ready? What needs to happen? And how will this happen? If his ego needs a bit of looking at, do you foresee him doing that in any other way? Or will you always be uncomfortable with him doing them under your guidance? Are you happy being responsible for guiding him? Are you feeling pressure for him to have a "good" trip? If it's difficult for him, would you be ok supporting him through it? Will you be sober (sorry if I've missed that one)?


The first time I did acid, I did it with a high school friend a grade under me. I ended up taking two amazing tabs after determining there was no taste, and he drove me around town for several hours late at night (bless his soul) and let me crash at his place.

Now this guy could be considered kind of shady. He's full of spontaneity and gets very easily flustered and frustrated, and he doesn't make very good choices a lot of the time. But I look at him and I can have conversations with him, and I know that he's listening to me, and I know that he respects me. There's a bond there that isn't commonly found, and I almost look at him as a little brother. That trip went excellently even though everything basically went wrong- he took me to some crazy dude's apartment at one point, he got sick of driving, we ended up getting caught in a huge rainstorm, I ended up crashing in his room while he crashed on the sofa trying to make sure his parents didn't know I was there. But it was a perfect trip- I could've never done another drug again.

In a way, however, it also feels like a loss of innocence with psychedelics. I came out of that trip feeling like it actually wasn't for everyone, but it was for those who really recognized the something-ness about the world that was foolish and contradictory, and were bound to step out of the machinery at one point. I tried to do this for years before I touched psychedelics with meditation, solitude, mathematics, philosophy, theology, all of that shit. So naturally I ended up feeling like wherever psychedelics got me it would be fine because of how much I valued that other-ness I was reaching towards.

With a lot of my friends, I feel like it's just something they saw on TV or on a podcast or on reddit or something, it's not something they take seriously. Everyone has their reasons, but to me it just feels wrong to trip with my friends when to me it's something so special. I would almost feel like I was betraying them if I gave them a really powerful internal experience, but I would also feel bad if I gave them an underwhelming experience and they just dismissed these drugs early on when they might come in handy if they start longing for that something later. I almost just feel like I'm playing god by giving first timers drugs like this; I got my psychedelics after years of research from some scumbag weed dealer who couldn't give a shit about me, but that didn't matter because I knew that I was ready. I feel like giving this guy psychedelics as someone who can be there for him and help him wouldn't even matter if he isn't longing for anything immaterial yet.

I'm kind of just venting because it's a tricky situation. I type too much and it's overthinking to the max, but I just have so much respect for the experience that I really don't feel like it should be on me to introduce anybody to it. Kind of like prayer, or learning, or meditation- the beauty is that it comes from the inside.

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