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OfflineMalachi
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how much shrooms should I eat at the matrix reloaded?
    #1546477 - 05/13/03 08:27 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

I was first going to just eat a few grams.... but now I have a quarter... so I was thinking about eating the whole 7 gs... do you guys think that I'll be able to focus on the movie?


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Re: how much shrooms should I eat at the matrix reloaded? [Re: Malachi]
    #1546494 - 05/13/03 08:32 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

I doubt it very seriously, but What kind of mush are they?

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Re: how much shrooms should I eat at the matrix reloaded? [Re: Malachi]
    #1546496 - 05/13/03 08:33 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

oh sure, 7g, but will you be able to control your emotions in front of 100 people, or will you stand up and start yelling "NEO WILL SAVE US"? i'd go for 3g.


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Re: how much shrooms should I eat at the matrix reloaded? [Re: cube421]
    #1546499 - 05/13/03 08:34 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

I'm betting that you would not even be able to watch the movie on 7gs.

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Re: how much shrooms should I eat at the matrix reloaded? [Re: Malachi]
    #1546501 - 05/13/03 08:34 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

I'd say eat about half that much... and that might be pushing it.
Keep in mind your going to have to sit still, not talk, and be in a large crowded movie theater. If you get up, you might not find your way back to your seat. If you need to throw up, you might not make it to the bathroom on time. Plus there is the sticky floor, and the buttery smell of popcorn.

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Re: how much shrooms should I eat at the matrix reloaded? [Re: TheShroomHermit]
    #1546502 - 05/13/03 08:35 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

A matter of fact that sounds like a miserable time all together.

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Re: how much shrooms should I eat at the matrix reloaded? [Re: pattern]
    #1546503 - 05/13/03 08:35 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

stick with 3g's, Hell- maybe even 2.... ?

But 7g's sounds like your just Asking for trouble in a theatre

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Re: how much shrooms should I eat at the matrix reloaded? [Re: cube421]
    #1546511 - 05/13/03 08:38 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

if ya do do this...I suggest the back of the theater


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OfflineDailyPot
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Re: how much shrooms should I eat at the matrix reloaded? [Re: pattern]
    #1546517 - 05/13/03 08:39 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

NEO WILL SAVE US



HAHAH :grin:

I personally think it'll be cool enough sober. I've never watched a movie tripping but I have on other things and I prefer them sober but if you're going for it I'd say 2-2.5g just enough so when you watch it sober you can tell its the same movie but it'll still kick ass to an unnatural level :wink:

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Re: how much shrooms should I eat at the matrix reloaded? [Re: DailyPot]
    #1546545 - 05/13/03 08:47 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

I really enjoyed the Matrix when I first saw it, I probably would have loved it just as much on shrooms. But, on shrooms, I would rather see a happy trippy movie than a dark/horror movie.


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Re: how much shrooms should I eat at the matrix reloaded? [Re: pattern]
    #1546601 - 05/13/03 09:07 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

:grin:
Smoke a blunt instead. That's what I plan on doing. 


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Re: how much shrooms should I eat at the matrix reloaded? [Re: LostMetropolis]
    #1546615 - 05/13/03 09:11 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

I tried to watch the first matrix on 2 grams of shrooms on Halloween. I couldn't pay attention to anything but thoughts


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Re: how much shrooms should I eat at the matrix reloaded? [Re: DrubuShrume]
    #1546629 - 05/13/03 09:16 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

if u can handle it, u'll probably have fun.. i know Lord of the Rings kicked ass on acid.. and i'm going to see Matrix Reloaded on acid too


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Re: how much shrooms should I eat at the matrix reloaded? [Re: GWAR]
    #1546806 - 05/13/03 10:31 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

The Matrix is already confusing enough as it is for me, I would never understand it if i was on any sort of drug.


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Re: how much shrooms should I eat at the matrix reloaded? [Re: moe]
    #1549255 - 05/14/03 08:21 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

i watched the first matrix on dvd on 7 grams and i couldent pay attention to the movie , but ive seen it so many times so it didnt matter.


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Re: how much shrooms should I eat at the matrix reloaded? [Re: Malachi]
    #1549542 - 05/14/03 10:24 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

soon as i saw the trailer (tonight) i though, must watch movie in theatres on mushrooms!
i say go for the 7, i went to red dragon with niggy in november and he was on about 4-5 grams of liberty caps and an undisclosed ammount of pan subbs.
he just sorta started staring goofily at his hands and whispering mixtures of hippie-philosophy and words you might hear in sunday school around christmastime.  he diddnt even see the movie, and he looked like a drooling retard, we were almost shitting our pants that he might start wigging, but somehow, in his "mellow space" he kept it all together.  if it was me i would have been totally into the movie and also scared as hell. :smile:  make sure you have sitters when you do this, we had to guide niggy out at the end.

now, a little advice, when you watch this movie, you will be pulled into it, you will be in an audience full of morphing bodies, some of them will look like secret agents, the theatre will resemble the matrix (the outer, human-containing part)
and evryone will be watching the movie. the movie is full of petterns and philisophical concepts your brain might confuse with the here and now. visual imagery isnt the only thing that melts and twists, so does emotion, thought, and conceptual reality.  basically consider your critical thinking gone. withought time as a foot into reality, its just your emotions, the universe, and the movie.
i remember when i was taking 4g of shrooms for lord of the rings, frodos sucess was to me a matter of my own survival, and that of the entire world. it was real, and the movie had very clear and obvious indications that it wasnt just a movie, but what was really happening, and i was simply, as a watcher, a preceiver, the manifestation of all i preceive.... directly effected by the outcome.
so yes, i said stuff like "please frodo, PLEASE WAKE UP" aloud. :P  i even felt a sickening guilt whenever i saw the ring or whenever i saw trechery.
the hills and mountains, just after gandalf was pulled into the abyss BECAME gandalf, repeated again and again in patterns of wizards all reaching to the east, pointing, each wizard was part of another wisard, overlapping and obscure, yet clearly visable, so much so that i was sure the effect was intentional,  it was only after much exploration of the movie while sober that i realized this was mearly hallucination.

the matrix reloaded... in theatres, on 7 grams?
please do it, and tell us about it, all the insights, treat it as a journey and you wont miss it by getting lost in your thoughts,  but remember, you will never see the movie that way again, and it might mean something totally different the next time you see it.  one things for sure, its supercharged and crazy. i can immagine feeling very lost and afraid, maybe even hopeless, regretting it, but stick it out, because after all, its just a trip and it will pass, youll always have the movie later to remind you of the way you felt and what you saw.
after all, youre only... human.
consider it the red pill (or was it blue, i forget)

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    #1549554 - 05/14/03 10:30 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)


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Re: how much shrooms should I eat at the matrix reloaded? [Re: ]
    #1549610 - 05/14/03 11:00 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Fuck it man, eat 20 grams.  Just remember, there is no shroom :smile:.


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Re: how much shrooms should I eat at the matrix reloaded? [Re: TheDude]
    #1550175 - 05/15/03 02:55 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Lol..
Ontopic: I think 2 or 3 grams before the movie is a better idea, plan it so that the nausea is over when the movie starts.. (or if you want to really understand the movie at it's best, when you're over the top.)

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the meta experience... an intersection in dimension... [Re: TheDude]
    #1550194 - 05/15/03 03:23 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Well, I didn't take 7 gs. I ate about 5 gs, give or take, and left about 2gs for another trip... I'm in the process of coming down, it's 3:45, I dosed at about 9:30, the movies started at 10.


anyway, that said, I feel confident that the dose was sufficient. I didn't drink any fluids for most of the day-- and fasted of course, I usually fast, but the not drinking anything was new-- anyway I stopped eat/drinking around 11am. Also, I ran about a mile and a half about 40 minutes before dosing.

anyway, the point is that given my preparation, I think that I made those 5 gs really count.


the trip started before the movie, trying to find a seat. it was a really confusing situation involving getting a ticket with a non tripping friend, then finding a tripping friend who had a seat but not two, so I couldn't sit with the non tripping friend. it all got worked out in a really trippy manner, we found three seats all the way in front and all the way to the left (stage right for you theatre geeks), but two other guys I know had already claimed the seats we had found, so I got to stay there but my friend couldn't. it was weird. there where only a few open seats next to each other, and they of course where all claimed for someone coming or whatever, so when we came stumbling around asking "hey are these seats taken" to the people around the only open seats in three different theatres, people where copped attitude like it was obvious that we couldn't sit anywhere. it was a really frustrating situation, and it was providence that I found a seat when and where I did. just trippy. that, of course, is when things got really interesting... THE MATRIX RELOADED IS THE FUCKING BOMB. now that I've expressed that, I can sort of comment on what exactly went on in that theatre. the movie is a happening, a be-in, real performance art. it is so postmodern, so self-commenting that it is almost satirical. but its not, its totally serious, and the self commentary is part of the whole philosophy that the movie conveys. by self commentary I mean like when a DJ is extra funky when he knows he just did something cool -- in this context the self commentary is in the way the movie fucks with audiences expectations.


alright, I can see already that I'm not doing this experience any real justice... I'm going to just kind of summarize my conclusions that this trip have led me to.


The matrix is about how it seems like hope and motivation, or wait-- will to be is the term I'm looking for-- it's about how a will to be seems irrational, but that it is actually real, it's just not a product of reason - because of lack of experience. the "experience" that leads to an understanding that existence ought to be valued is a trip, of course, as anyone reading this knows. but what is the trip? apprechiation (im not going to try to spell...) for the necessity of the game of black and white. neo's faith is shattered at the end of the movie, he says "if the prophecy was true, the war should be over" or something like that. this is like the state that contemporary theologan's are at...religion is wrong for trying to sell us a dream of non existence, anything that is world-denying. one level of understanding is that the world is not what is appears and that a nirvana can be made, but it must also be understood to validate existence-- in other words, the answer to neo's challenge is that no, the prophecy is right and nirvana must accomodate the duality of the world- black and white-- the change that neo has to make is changing the perspective in which the game is viewed. it has to be friendly. but all parties have to be accounted for, cause they all exist. I want to go on about the levels and the masters of the different levels and how this relates to shamanistic understandings of how to deal with the aspriations or goals of these masters.... and about how much the matrix is like El Topo... but I'm not going to, cause I'm done. Just do it. be sure of compassion, it is justified.


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Re: how much shrooms should I eat at the matrix reloaded? [Re: Malachi]
    #1550629 - 05/15/03 10:14 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Ketamine leaves mushrooms for dead when it comes to watching films. To be taken completly into the film K is the best.


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Re: how much shrooms should I eat at the matrix reloaded? [Re: Xlea321]
    #1550706 - 05/15/03 10:50 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

malachi, didnt you just tell a spoiler?,  i dont know for sure because i descided to stop reading your post after you said neos faith was destroyed in the end and the quotation, i may be wrong but im not reading it just yet :smile:

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Re: how much shrooms should I eat at the matrix reloaded? [Re: bandaid]
    #1551567 - 05/15/03 03:07 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

hah I stopped reading way before that but it was on the same paragraph I think is a spoiler

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Re: how much shrooms should I eat at the matrix reloaded? [Re: DailyPot]
    #1551715 - 05/15/03 04:00 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

um, yeah, I didn't really think about that while I was tripping. sorry. it really doesn't matter though, cause the movie isn't a linear whodonit, so it's not like I'm going to give away the big secret. it's a bit more esoteric than that.


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Re: how much shrooms should I eat at the matrix reloaded? [Re: LostMetropolis]
    #1552388 - 05/15/03 07:27 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

i saw it tonight, visually it was cool, wich id tripped, because quite frankly the whole rave religon, vampire, ghost, gratuitous shot of keanus ass and little one liners really took away from a plot that was very hard to notice anyway. yes i get the philosophy, its only been done a million times, i was actually quite sad with what was actually produced here, the special effects werent beleiveable. you know when you can tell its computer generated? you could really tell. but then i suppose its the idea or morover the point that when the rules are bent, it WOULD look like a computer failing to maintain a visual reality, or maybe they just over did it.
the whole french guy, worse than jar jar binks! the french swearing thing, people who can only speak a few french swear words and like to show it off make me sick, its about time a movie catered to their ego i suppose.
the whole math masterpeice orgasm cake thing was just horrible, i winced in agony.

this movie, lacked evry good quality i went hoping to see and rather embraced a narsisistic, shallow, stupid, excessivly (clique) gothic (when it wasnt excessively drum and bass) and well, tried to be too many things, and too many of the things it tried to be was shit, sort of squashing its redeeming qualities.
the whole jelousy thing with morpheus and the military guy, and the woman... BBBOOORING.
morpheus zealous granstanding RUINED the integrity of the character, not gradually over the ourse of the movie, but right from the start, i just kept hoping he would die or something.
the ending, BAD, SO BAD. it made me really not want to see the 3rd movie, the same way id not want to finish the bible after 3-4 pages.
in short, it was predictable, over-produced and pointless.
and they could have done WAY better with the archetect.
and the whole pupose of the "one" in the grand design, ha.
if u were to buy it, then id have to abbandon giving a rats ass about the characters, well, that is if i CARED that they are all just logs in a fire.
the movie made me feel empty. like i had wasted some time i COULD have devoted towards making a philosophers stone with salt and sulpher in my oven.

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Re: how much shrooms should I eat at the matrix reloaded? [Re: Mitchnast]
    #1553149 - 05/16/03 01:00 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

you people who are looking for an emotional attachment to movie characters are fucking weirdos. I like movies for their ability to contextualize ideas. could you give an example of a movie that better communicates system theory, or the functionality/casuality problem, or immanece v. transcendence? um.. no.

and the one liners are a joke on the audience, dummy.


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Re: how much shrooms should I eat at the matrix reloaded? [Re: Malachi]
    #1553427 - 05/16/03 04:19 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

who has an emotional attachment to anything? i would think you do considering the language ou used against me in rebuttal to a post that really wasnt directed negitively at you in any way. i dissed your precious movie. you got upset, who is emotional? you're allowed to be emotional though, so its ok. I look at a character who was cool, now i cant stand to hear him talk cause he granstands and preaches like some baptist zealot. ALL THE TIME.
im not saying its wrong to be mainstream, but is stupid to overplay popular concepts, this movie tries to reach too wide an audience, and too much of that target audience is preoccupied with fasion, celebrity worship, rebeliousness, and popular horror-fantasy genres, all of which are catered to in unnessisary, time-filling unrelated showcases. Therefore the film loses its personality, or it becomes overly fragmented.
I think if the system theory has any value, then evry movie ever made without plot-holes would demonstrate it perfectly.
functionality/casuality problem? hmm, AKIRA demonstrated that quite well in terms of evolution, the one called akira who acheived pure energy. immanece vs transcendence? once again see above movie. now that i think of it, what about Macbeth? not the movie, the shakespere play.
and the matrix diddnt really illustrate it that well, it was either fights scenes exhibiting lots of action, or moments where characters were discussing logic, while trying to look/act very cool to any audience that might happen to be watching them on a hypothetical bigscreen. in this way the characters become sadly unrealistic, beleiveability is important, espoecially when you are trying to make it seem as though the premise of a movie is to represent some fundimental conflict of logic or determinism. I bleive that the premise of a movie should be present and not HAVE to be explained 10 times by sucessively more powerful villians like some platform video game.
its also bigotry to consider people you don't know weirdos for some trait you assume they have or dummies because they dont like the same things you do, or precive things differently than you. you could argue (and use the movie you like as an example) that such thinking is certainly some great programming for an inhabitant of this world to transcend.

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Re: how much shrooms should I eat at the matrix reloaded? [Re: Mitchnast]
    #1553653 - 05/16/03 09:18 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Here's some interesting reading for you guys: http://www.dcd.net/NBP/persuasn.html

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Re: how much shrooms should I eat at the matrix reloaded? [Re: TekNut]
    #1553751 - 05/16/03 10:39 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Mark your spoilers please!

I start reading one post and it starts going off about the movie, so I try not to remember what I read, but please mark future spoilers, =/

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Re: how much shrooms should I eat at the matrix reloaded? [Re: Malachi]
    #1553873 - 05/16/03 11:41 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Uuh yea, I'd hate to bust your bubble but all movies/stories are based around the emotional connection between the characters and the audience. It drives the conflict, and the conflict is what makes it entertaining. Without that connection, I don't think movies would be so popular. Whether that connection works or not is a pretty big factor in whether or not you will like the movie. If the story and characters don't draw the audience in to care, then the ideas in the movie are pretty worthless. Even great visual fx cant save a movie if the story sucks, which is ironic since visual fx are the frontline in advertisements to lure people to see the movie by promising eye candy.

Speaking of which...
If you haven't seen the movie DONT WATCH THE TRAILER!! It shows way too much.

Peace,
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Re: how much shrooms should I eat at the matrix reloaded? [Re: Malachi]
    #1554048 - 05/16/03 12:43 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

OH u bastard!!! I didnt want to read that spoiler shit!!....

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Re: how much shrooms should I eat at the matrix reloaded? [Re: AcursedRedDragon]
    #1558406 - 05/18/03 07:17 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

i liked it, but the trailer gave too much away. especially the freeway part.


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Re: how much shrooms should I eat at the matrix reloaded? [Re: pattern]
    #23562714 - 08/21/16 11:15 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

thanks for the tip

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