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Re: how much shrooms should I eat at the matrix reloaded? [Re: Malachi]
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Ketamine leaves mushrooms for dead when it comes to watching films. To be taken completly into the film K is the best.


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Re: how much shrooms should I eat at the matrix reloaded? [Re: Xlea321]
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malachi, didnt you just tell a spoiler?,  i dont know for sure because i descided to stop reading your post after you said neos faith was destroyed in the end and the quotation, i may be wrong but im not reading it just yet :smile:

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Re: how much shrooms should I eat at the matrix reloaded? [Re: bandaid]
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hah I stopped reading way before that but it was on the same paragraph I think is a spoiler


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Re: how much shrooms should I eat at the matrix reloaded? [Re: DailyPot]
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um, yeah, I didn't really think about that while I was tripping. sorry. it really doesn't matter though, cause the movie isn't a linear whodonit, so it's not like I'm going to give away the big secret. it's a bit more esoteric than that.


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The ultimate meaning of our being can only be fulfilled in the paradoxical leap beyond the tragic-demonic frustration. It is a leap from our side, but it is the self-surrendering presence of the Ground of Being from the other side.
- Paul Tillich

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Re: how much shrooms should I eat at the matrix reloaded? [Re: LostMetropolis]
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i saw it tonight, visually it was cool, wich id tripped, because quite frankly the whole rave religon, vampire, ghost, gratuitous shot of keanus ass and little one liners really took away from a plot that was very hard to notice anyway. yes i get the philosophy, its only been done a million times, i was actually quite sad with what was actually produced here, the special effects werent beleiveable. you know when you can tell its computer generated? you could really tell. but then i suppose its the idea or morover the point that when the rules are bent, it WOULD look like a computer failing to maintain a visual reality, or maybe they just over did it.
the whole french guy, worse than jar jar binks! the french swearing thing, people who can only speak a few french swear words and like to show it off make me sick, its about time a movie catered to their ego i suppose.
the whole math masterpeice orgasm cake thing was just horrible, i winced in agony.

this movie, lacked evry good quality i went hoping to see and rather embraced a narsisistic, shallow, stupid, excessivly (clique) gothic (when it wasnt excessively drum and bass) and well, tried to be too many things, and too many of the things it tried to be was shit, sort of squashing its redeeming qualities.
the whole jelousy thing with morpheus and the military guy, and the woman... BBBOOORING.
morpheus zealous granstanding RUINED the integrity of the character, not gradually over the ourse of the movie, but right from the start, i just kept hoping he would die or something.
the ending, BAD, SO BAD. it made me really not want to see the 3rd movie, the same way id not want to finish the bible after 3-4 pages.
in short, it was predictable, over-produced and pointless.
and they could have done WAY better with the archetect.
and the whole pupose of the "one" in the grand design, ha.
if u were to buy it, then id have to abbandon giving a rats ass about the characters, well, that is if i CARED that they are all just logs in a fire.
the movie made me feel empty. like i had wasted some time i COULD have devoted towards making a philosophers stone with salt and sulpher in my oven.


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Re: how much shrooms should I eat at the matrix reloaded? [Re: Mitchnast]
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you people who are looking for an emotional attachment to movie characters are fucking weirdos. I like movies for their ability to contextualize ideas. could you give an example of a movie that better communicates system theory, or the functionality/casuality problem, or immanece v. transcendence? um.. no.

and the one liners are a joke on the audience, dummy.


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Re: how much shrooms should I eat at the matrix reloaded? [Re: Malachi]
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who has an emotional attachment to anything? i would think you do considering the language ou used against me in rebuttal to a post that really wasnt directed negitively at you in any way. i dissed your precious movie. you got upset, who is emotional? you're allowed to be emotional though, so its ok. I look at a character who was cool, now i cant stand to hear him talk cause he granstands and preaches like some baptist zealot. ALL THE TIME.
im not saying its wrong to be mainstream, but is stupid to overplay popular concepts, this movie tries to reach too wide an audience, and too much of that target audience is preoccupied with fasion, celebrity worship, rebeliousness, and popular horror-fantasy genres, all of which are catered to in unnessisary, time-filling unrelated showcases. Therefore the film loses its personality, or it becomes overly fragmented.
I think if the system theory has any value, then evry movie ever made without plot-holes would demonstrate it perfectly.
functionality/casuality problem? hmm, AKIRA demonstrated that quite well in terms of evolution, the one called akira who acheived pure energy. immanece vs transcendence? once again see above movie. now that i think of it, what about Macbeth? not the movie, the shakespere play.
and the matrix diddnt really illustrate it that well, it was either fights scenes exhibiting lots of action, or moments where characters were discussing logic, while trying to look/act very cool to any audience that might happen to be watching them on a hypothetical bigscreen. in this way the characters become sadly unrealistic, beleiveability is important, espoecially when you are trying to make it seem as though the premise of a movie is to represent some fundimental conflict of logic or determinism. I bleive that the premise of a movie should be present and not HAVE to be explained 10 times by sucessively more powerful villians like some platform video game.
its also bigotry to consider people you don't know weirdos for some trait you assume they have or dummies because they dont like the same things you do, or precive things differently than you. you could argue (and use the movie you like as an example) that such thinking is certainly some great programming for an inhabitant of this world to transcend.


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Re: how much shrooms should I eat at the matrix reloaded? [Re: Mitchnast]
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Here's some interesting reading for you guys: http://www.dcd.net/NBP/persuasn.html

Peace,
-TekNut-

A picture is worth a thousand words
is not an old proverb
- 1921 ad copy by Fred R Barnard


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Re: how much shrooms should I eat at the matrix reloaded? [Re: TekNut]
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Mark your spoilers please!

I start reading one post and it starts going off about the movie, so I try not to remember what I read, but please mark future spoilers, =/

Sko


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Re: how much shrooms should I eat at the matrix reloaded? [Re: Malachi]
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Uuh yea, I'd hate to bust your bubble but all movies/stories are based around the emotional connection between the characters and the audience. It drives the conflict, and the conflict is what makes it entertaining. Without that connection, I don't think movies would be so popular. Whether that connection works or not is a pretty big factor in whether or not you will like the movie. If the story and characters don't draw the audience in to care, then the ideas in the movie are pretty worthless. Even great visual fx cant save a movie if the story sucks, which is ironic since visual fx are the frontline in advertisements to lure people to see the movie by promising eye candy.

Speaking of which...
If you haven't seen the movie DONT WATCH THE TRAILER!! It shows way too much.

Peace,
LM


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Re: how much shrooms should I eat at the matrix reloaded? [Re: Malachi]
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OH u bastard!!! I didnt want to read that spoiler shit!!....

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Re: how much shrooms should I eat at the matrix reloaded? [Re: AcursedRedDragon]
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i liked it, but the trailer gave too much away. especially the freeway part.


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Re: how much shrooms should I eat at the matrix reloaded? [Re: pattern]
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thanks for the tip

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