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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
qman said:
That's not a valid argument and I expect better from you, we both know resources are finite and when supply gets low and demand grows higher the price gets more expensive.



Obviously resources are finite - the unanswered question was how many people can our resources support?

qman said:
How many more people can eat off of the pizza?  "a lot more because we're not out of pizza, yet."  How does that make any sense at all?



If we have 10 billion pizzas, and 1 million people over for dinner, clearly more people can eat.  That's how it makes sense.

Sometimes you don't seem to think very hard.



"If we have 10 billion pizzas"

Why not 100 trillion pizzas since you're now entering some sort of liberal fantasyland? 

"the unanswered question was how many people can our resources support?"

Correct and I stated the current status quo gives us the best indication. You stated more people "because we're not of resources".

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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: qman]
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qman said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
If we have 10 billion pizzas, and 1 million people over for dinner, clearly more people can eat.  That's how it makes sense.



Why not 100 trillion pizzas since you're now entering some sort of liberal fantasyland?



It's a hypothetical example.  :facepalm3:  Pick any number of pizzas you want from 0 to infinity.  :wtf:

qman said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Obviously resources are finite - the unanswered question was how many people can our resources support?



Correct and I stated the current status quo gives us the best indication.



No, it doesn't.  It gives us the absolute minimum.  Your question was "How do you quantify the limits of the resources?" and what we have today is clearly not the limit.


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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
qman said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
If we have 10 billion pizzas, and 1 million people over for dinner, clearly more people can eat.  That's how it makes sense.



Why not 100 trillion pizzas since you're now entering some sort of liberal fantasyland?



It's a hypothetical example.  :facepalm3:  Pick any number of pizzas you want from 0 to infinity.  :wtf:

qman said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Obviously resources are finite - the unanswered question was how many people can our resources support?



Correct and I stated the current status quo gives us the best indication.



No, it doesn't.  It gives us the absolute minimum.  Your question was "How do you quantify the limits of the resources?" and what we have today is clearly not the limit.



"and what we have today is clearly not the limit"

But that's not saying anything. What would happen if "resources" were cheaper and purchasing power remained constant?  More consumption of the "resource".  That's why today's reality gives us the best indication of what's affordable for consumption.

Is purchasing gasoline at $10 per gallon really an affordable option for most consumers?  No, that's why the consumption of resources is LIMITED.

What good would the food stamp program be if the "extra" consumption of food spiked the prices higher for everyone?  It would end up being potentially counterproductive.

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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: qman]
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qman said:
What would happen if "resources" were cheaper and purchasing power remained constant?  More consumption of the "resource".  That's why today's reality gives us the best indication of what's affordable for consumption.

Is purchasing gasoline at $10 per gallon really an affordable option for most consumers?  No, that's why the consumption of resources is LIMITED.



Then people can move to alternative sources of energy.


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