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InvisibleLoki
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Re: Critique pinky's analysis of the debate here [Re: Phred]
    #3204705 - 10/01/04 05:42 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

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This way no one needs to scroll back through eight pages of irrelevance in order to find when I said this or where I said that.
 




So its a hard thing to click on the page 1 link, and be taken straight back to your first post? Being as how your first post will always be
page [1], you really dont need to scrol through 8 pages :wink:

Who says you make 8 pages anyway ? Large ego at play?


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Re: Critique pinky's analysis of the debate here [Re: Phred]
    #3204721 - 10/01/04 05:49 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Had you just posted it and left it open, it would still be on page one, yet now, even after a long time stuck in place at the top, its on page 3.


Edited by Loki (10/01/04 06:08 PM)


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Re: Critique pinky's analysis of the debate here [Re: Phred]
    #3204766 - 10/01/04 06:06 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

I'm not too terribly surprised that the opinion on who did better than whom is pretty partisan. I thought Kerry did better just from listening to it, but then, I'm a bit biased... :tongue:


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Re: Critique pinky's analysis of the debate here [Re: Psilygirl]
    #3204768 - 10/01/04 06:08 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Psilygirl writes:

first, you didnt have to single me out when ten other people said the same thing before me.

It could have been anyone. It happened to be you. What, do you want me to make ten identical posts replying to each of the ten people?

second, thats all fine and good but the rest of us dont have that privelege.

Incorrect. As I pointed out, I have moved, stickied, locked, unlocked, and deleted threads at the request of the authors of those threads, and I will do so again. As a matter of fact, I have never yet declined such a request. If you want me to lock a thread you started in a forum I moderate, just ask.

it's propoganda because it's opinion and you didnt give anyone the chance to respond.

Incorrect. This thread is designed for nothing but responses. I am honestly quite baffled why you have such a hard time grasping this. Is it a different way of responding than the norm? Sure. Is it designed to prevent people from criticizing my opinions? Nope.

it's like advertisements with fine print--you sticky and lock this controversial thread and then in tiny print make an insignificant post about where you are allowed to debate the debate.

Incorrect. It was hardly fine print. What part of
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I'm gonna lock the thread right after I post what I have so far, and open a response thread http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...amp;PHPSESSID=l . This will allow y'all to shoot me down without cluttering up any additions I make later on. You can cut and paste my comments and address them in the response thread if you feel like it.

Or you can just ignore my comments completely. Your choice.



did I fail to make sufficiently clear? Should I have put it in purple boldface in all caps?

This may surprise you, but I automatically assume readers of this forum are able to read English and know how to click on a link. You will note several posters got the hang of it quite easily -- those who actually responded to the points I raised in my post rather than whining about how impossible it was to post their rebuttals.

anyways i'm done i was simply agreeing with what EVERYONE else already wrote, thanks for singling me out, buddy.

Thank you. Please come again.

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Re: Critique pinky's analysis of the debate here [Re: Phred]
    #3204859 - 10/01/04 06:47 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

I watched the first half on TV and listened to the second on the radio, not because I had to but because I remember the thing about the JFK/Nixon debates wherein JFK won on TV but lost on the radio. Either place I thought Kerry was far slicker but some of his content was jaw-droppingly stupid, especially with regard to N. Korea. At no point did I think the content of Bush's answers was ridiculous. I think the giddiness is going to fade when people start talking about what Kerry actually said, as in read the transcript, as Pinky is doing. There is no halting delivery in print. I was frankly stunned that Bush looked so off guard at first but he was quite cautious and didn't say anything stupid. Content does matter, especially when people start parseing what was said


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Re: Critique pinky's analysis of the debate here [Re: Phred]
    #3204900 - 10/01/04 07:00 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

thats cool.  i just disagree with the way some things were handled and i have the right to share them

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Re: Critique pinky's analysis of the debate here [Re: Phred]
    #3205654 - 10/02/04 01:03 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Incorrect. As I pointed out, I have moved, stickied, locked, unlocked, and deleted threads at the request of the authors of those threads, and I will do so again.

As I'm sure you're aware that's not the issue everyone else is addressing. Are you claiming you have stickied a half-finished post a left-winger made on a purely political issue and locked it at the top of the board? When did you last do this? I've been here since you became mod and I've certainly never known you do it.

If you want me to lock a thread you started in a forum I moderate, just ask.

Locking a thread at someones request isn't the same as making a half finished purely partisian political post and then locking it yourself at the top of the board. If you had several requests from people on the board to lock your thread at the top of the board then you might've had a leg to stand on.

As a previous poster pointed out your behaviour simply smacks of enormous self-importance.


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Re: Critique pinky's analysis of the debate here [Re: Psilygirl]
    #3205656 - 10/02/04 01:04 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

thats cool. i just disagree with the way some things were handled and i have the right to share them

Nice handling Psily.


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Re: Critique pinky's analysis of the debate here [Re: zappaisgod]
    #3205999 - 10/02/04 06:01 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
I thought Kerry was far slicker but some of his content was jaw-droppingly stupid, especially with regard to N. Korea. At no point did I think the content of Bush's answers was ridiculous. I think the giddiness is going to fade when people start talking about what Kerry actually said, as in read the transcript, as Pinky is doing. There is no halting delivery in print. I was frankly stunned that Bush looked so off guard at first but he was quite cautious and didn't say anything stupid. Content does matter, especially when people start parseing what was said




I would agree with that. Bush could have ended the race with a solid presentation. He already had the facts and the American people on his side. Kerry made some great arguments against a war that he voted for. That won't win many points upon reflection. I think that some of Kerry's statements will haunt him in print, as they always do.


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Re: Critique pinky's analysis of the debate here [Re: JesusChrist]
    #3206004 - 10/02/04 06:07 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

I also have to say that I am surprised at the outpouring of "love" for the sharkman. I have never been a moderator of this forum or any other forum on the shroomery. I used to run my own forum. It is a thankless job. And my forum was about sports. I couldn't imagine trying to keep some semblence of order in such a diverse political forum such as this. At least in my forum we were all fans of the same team and people were still rabid animals when it came to public discourse. The moderators here do a great job, and I support them.


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Re: Critique pinky's analysis of the debate here [Re: JesusChrist]
    #3206475 - 10/02/04 10:50 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Everyone is merely pointing out that the mod shouldn't sticky and lock his own political threads at the top of the board. You can surely see the reasoning behind this?


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Re: Critique pinky's analysis of the debate here [Re: JesusChrist]
    #3206483 - 10/02/04 10:53 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

While I think pinky is normally a great moderator and extremely fair, I have to say I disagree with his actions in this particular case. Like trendal said, he could've just used notepad to save the post and work on it later. None of us have the ability to lock and sticky a post and then work on it later, so I don't think it's fair of him to do the same.


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Re: Critique pinky's analysis of the debate here [Re: Phred]
    #3206493 - 10/02/04 10:57 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Wow. "Critique" the "analysis". Big words there. This pinksharkmark dude certainly has high thoughts of himself.

And the "debate" was as pointless as the rest of the election circus. Did anybody learn anything new?


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Re: Critique pinky's analysis of the debate here [Re: AntiMeme]
    #3206652 - 10/02/04 12:08 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

AntiMeme writes:

"Wow. "Critique" the "analysis". Big words there. This pinksharkmark dude certainly has high thoughts of himself."

Me so sad "critique" and "analysis" too big words for you. Next time me use small words, so you not feel bad you not grasp what me say.

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Re: Critique pinky's analysis of the debate here [Re: AntiMeme]
    #3206658 - 10/02/04 12:12 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Did anybody learn anything new?

I learned that if you debate with yourself (which is basically what pinky did in his laughable "analysis"), then you will come to the same conclusions again and again. what a surprise.


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Re: Critique pinky's analysis of the debate here [Re: Phred]
    #3206680 - 10/02/04 12:22 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Chill Mark. I'm just saying that you shouldn't use big words when there's no reason to do so. No need to feel hurt, we can't all be levelheaded. Sometimes delusions of grandeur can take you a long way, just look at politicians.


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Re: Critique pinky's analysis of the debate here [Re: AntiMeme]
    #3206710 - 10/02/04 12:36 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

I'm so sorry, but it never occured to me that by using words whose definitions I learned in grade school I was demonstrating "high thoughts" of myself. Seriously, if you get upset at people using words of two syllables and three syllables in their posts, you are not going to enjoy your time in this forum.

I'm just saying that you shouldn't use big words when there's no reason to do so.

I have an idea. In the interest of improving myself, let me ask you what a better title for a thread inviting criticism of my analysis of the debate would have been. I'm sure you can whip up two or three.

Speaking of delusions of grandeur, here's another three syllable word for you -- irony. Did you ever ask yourself how many people know the meaning of "meme" compared to how many know the meaning of "analysis" or "critique"?

I also find it ironic that in a thread where people are bashing Bush's painfully plain style of speaking and praising Kerry's masterful use of nuance, I get taken to task for using words larger than one syllable.


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Re: Critique pinky's analysis of the debate here [Re: Phred]
    #3206740 - 10/02/04 12:46 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

I'm sure everybody here knows the meaning of "analysis" and "critique", what are you getting at?

As for a better worded title, you would've done much better if you just left it at one unlocked thread called "Pinky's take on the debate". Simplicity can go a long way.

But that's not the point, is it?


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Re: Critique pinky's analysis of the debate here [Re: AntiMeme]
    #3206777 - 10/02/04 01:01 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

AntiMeme writes:

I'm sure everybody here knows the meaning of "analysis" and "critique", what are you getting at?

What I'm getting at is your bizarre reaction to my choice of commonly used words that everyone understands -- that it somehow shows I have a high opinion of myself. I repeat, if you're going to take umbrage (oh my goodness -- there I go again!) at the use of words everyone understands, you're going to have a miserable time indeed in this forum.

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Re: Critique pinky's analysis of the debate here [Re: Phred]
    #3206782 - 10/02/04 01:03 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

I think he was nonplussed


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