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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: chibiabos]
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yeaah ok, pet adopter, stop trying to act like you actually give a fuck about these people and you're not just trying to "do good" with other peoples money. Whens the last time you held one of the culturally deficient apes in your house pro bono? Never. Im willing to bet.

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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
Wanna answer the question as to why we have to let them in at all?

Ill wait.


Population growth. Without immigrants our economies stall because we need GDP growth or everyone melts down.


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“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: koods]
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Made up bullshit that completely ignores supply and demand, no immigrants means companies like wal-mart are forced to pay out higher wages. We wouldnt want that now would we?

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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Bodhi of Ankou said:
Wanna answer the question as to why we have to let them in at all?

Ill wait.


Population growth. Without immigrants our economies stall because we need GDP growth or everyone melts down.


Dude...Just invest in bitcoin.  :deal:

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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Bodhi of Ankou said:
Wanna answer the question as to why we have to let them in at all?

Ill wait.


Population growth. Without immigrants our economies stall because we need GDP growth or everyone melts down.


Total horseshit.


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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: viktor]
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How so? Arent you privy to white genocide?

Us white folk are being genocided by us having lower birth rates than non-OECD nations. Its total bullshit. But that means we need immigrants to sustain our workforce.


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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Bodhi of Ankou said:
Wanna answer the question as to why we have to let them in at all?

Ill wait.


Population growth. Without immigrants our economies stall because we need GDP growth or everyone melts down.


Total bullshit and you know it.

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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
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The Ecstatic said:
How so? Arent you privy to white genocide?

Us white folk are being genocided by us having lower birth rates than non-OECD nations. Its total bullshit. But that means we need immigrants to sustain our workforce.


Bring in more poor people and then expect economic prosperity. :flowstone:  Blame others for being racist when the plan falls apart.

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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
so you agree the money would have been better spent on teachers and others who deal with immigrants.


No, it would have been potentially inflationary since the money goes directly into main street and it's a mis-allocation of resources to piss away money on people that shouldn't be there in the first place.


Teachers and doctors and other professions that deal with immigrants (Main St) shouldn't have gotten the money because it might be inflationary???

qman said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
You're the one who made the claim "the vast majority of EU governments are insolvent".  Burden of proof is on YOU.


I should ask the same when you reply with "nothing happens".  I asked a simple question and you refused to answer it.


You made a claim that you couldn't back up, and now you want ME to prove your claim right or wrong?  :flowstone:

qman said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
qman said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Let's see if it's too much to ask.  How about some ballpark figures on how many people can live a middle class life and tell us how you know this.


The people that are currently living a middle class life is the best indicator we have today.


Why, did we run out of recourses?


So if there's unused resources available, that means the system is depriving others from living a middle class lifestyle?  I don't think so.


It means we're not out of resources, which means you were wrong about your claim that the current number of people is all that can live a middle class lifestyle due to limited resources.


"prove your claim right or wrong"

How much of a percentage of tax revenue going to service interest payments while accumulating more debt makes an institution or government insolvent? 

"It means we're not out of resources"

So that's the criteria you use to measure how many people should be living a middle class lifestyle?  You sound some of my ex-girlfriends. :facepalm:

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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: Bodhi of Ankou] * 1
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
culturally deficient apes


tell us more

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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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viktor said:
Bodhi of Ankou said:
How many immigrants do you have living with you Fal. Do you practice what you preach, or does it only matter when you're talking about everyone elses jobs and resources.

:smug:


He lives in one of the wealthiest areas of the world. The chances of him living within five miles of any refugee is almost zero.


Actually, the Silicon Valley has the 2nd largest immigrant population of any metropolitan area in the country after Miami.  34% of the people here in the Silicon Valley are immigrants, and yes it is one of the wealthiest areas of the world.

Care to make any more ignorant posts?


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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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and theyre the absolute best of the best, completely robbing these nations of their own builders and architects, all so you can pat yourself on the back and act like you're such a good guy, spending other peoples money.

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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: qman]
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qman said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
we're not out of resources, which means you were wrong about your claim that the current number of people is all that can live a middle class lifestyle due to limited resources.

   
So that's the criteria you use to measure how many people should be living a middle class lifestyle?  You sound some of my ex-girlfriends. :facepalm:


Huh?

You asked "how do you quantify the limits of the resources... just some ballpark figures?" and when I asked you for ballpark figures you said "The people that are currently living a middle class life is the best indicator we have today."

I'm saying you're wrong - that's not the limit, because we're not out of resources.


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I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them.  I also attack my side if I think they're wrong.  People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.

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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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The obvious answer is immigration, immigration solves everything, doesnt it falcon?

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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
viktor said:
Bodhi of Ankou said:
How many immigrants do you have living with you Fal. Do you practice what you preach, or does it only matter when you're talking about everyone elses jobs and resources.

:smug:


He lives in one of the wealthiest areas of the world. The chances of him living within five miles of any refugee is almost zero.


Actually, the Silicon Valley has the 2nd largest immigrant population of any metropolitan area in the country after Miami.  34% of the people here in the Silicon Valley are immigrants, and yes it is one of the wealthiest areas of the world.

Care to make any more ignorant posts?


Refugees, bro. How many refugees, not immigrants, live within five miles of you?


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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
qman said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
we're not out of resources, which means you were wrong about your claim that the current number of people is all that can live a middle class lifestyle due to limited resources.

   
So that's the criteria you use to measure how many people should be living a middle class lifestyle?  You sound some of my ex-girlfriends. :facepalm:


Huh?

You asked "how do you quantify the limits of the resources... just some ballpark figures?" and when I asked you for ballpark figures you said "The people that are currently living a middle class life is the best indicator we have today."

I'm saying you're wrong - that's not the limit, because we're not out of resources.


So the credit card is a highly reliable source of purchasing power until it declines is the line of reasoning here?  We both know depleting any resource down to zero is a very stupid idea, our whole global economy functions based on the availability of cost effective energy.

"because we're not out of resources"

That's because these resources have value in the market place and that provides a balance of supply and demand. Do you think everyone should live like a US citizen?    The world would run out of resources in short order.

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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: qman] * 1
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Why is it that none of the conservatives here can argue in good faith?

Nearly every response is either a blatant misrepresentation of someone's position, or just lazy hyperbole.


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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
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No shit.  Every response is basically "let me change your argument so I don't look like a complete fool, at least until you call me out on it."


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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
No shit.  Every response is basically "let me change your argument so I don't look like a complete fool, at least until you call me out on it."


"because we're not out of resources"

That's not a valid argument and I expect better from you, we both know resources are finite and when supply gets low and demand grows higher the price gets more expensive.

How many more people can eat off of the pizza?  "a lot more because we're not out of pizza, yet."  How does that make any sense at all?

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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: qman]
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qman said:
That's not a valid argument and I expect better from you, we both know resources are finite and when supply gets low and demand grows higher the price gets more expensive.


Obviously resources are finite - the unanswered question was how many people can our resources support?

qman said:
How many more people can eat off of the pizza?  "a lot more because we're not out of pizza, yet."  How does that make any sense at all?


If we have 10 billion pizzas, and 1 million people over for dinner, clearly more people can eat.  That's how it makes sense.

Sometimes you don't seem to think very hard.


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