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Re: No proof has been found between Trump and Russia ties... (moved) [Re: PatrickKn]
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I think the biggest scandal is that he let Michael Flynn get anywhere near top secret material. They either knew he was working for the Turkish government or they are so incompetent that they didn't even read the letter congress wrote to him explaining that he was. It was a blatant pay for play operation Flynn was involved in.


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NotSheekle said
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Re: No proof has been found between Trump and Russia ties... [Re: Patlal]
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the whole thing is a media scam to stir up the old red scare paranoia of what for most of us here would be our parents generation.

thats the real reason this whole thing has been blown up so much imo.

also its worth considering that maybe trump is connected to something in russia thats not the russian government, everyone has automatically assumed its putin but why not something else? possibly even someone or some group who is residing in russia but isnt even russian themselves?

it shocks me most people have never brought up or considered that.


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Re: No proof has been found between Trump and Russia ties... [Re: Connoisseur]
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A lot of people have suspected that he has large debts to Russian banks. Trump has not been able to get loans from reputable banks for a long time due to his history of screwing his debt holders, so he does a lot of financing with banks in foreign countries with poor regulations.

It's pretty likely that he also has had intelligence operations to collect information that can be used against him by the Russian FSB. They do that to any person with money or power who comes to Russia. You can be 100% certain his hotel rooms in Russia have been bugged and videotaped during his visits. This is just standard operating procedure for the FSB. They probably have stuff on him. Do you really think he's not at least fooling around on his wife when he's out of town? That's his standard operating procedure.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: No proof has been found between Trump and Russia ties... [Re: koods]
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koods said:
A lot of people have suspected that he has large debts to Russian banks. Trump has not been able to get loans from reputable banks for a long time due to his history of screwing his debt holders, so he does a lot of financing with banks in foreign countries with poor regulations.

It's pretty likely that he also has had intelligence operations to collect information that can be used against him by the Russian FSB. They do that to any person with money or power who comes to Russia. You can be 100% certain his hotel rooms in Russia have been bugged and videotaped during his visits. This is just standard operating procedure for the FSB. They probably have stuff on him. Do you really think he's not at least fooling around on his wife when he's out of town? That's his standard operating procedure.


You're embarrassingly desperate.


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Re: No proof has been found between Trump and Russia ties... [Re: koods]
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and you would know because clearly youve seen the evidence.

i think trumps a dirty prick who does all sorts of things, same with hillary, bill, obama, ect.


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Re: No proof has been found between Trump and Russia ties... [Re: Webster10]
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You're embarrassingly naive. Russia is an intelligence state. Information, intimidation and blackmail is how putin stays in power. You really think they haven't made an effort to get as much info on a billionaire as they can?


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NotSheekle said
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Re: No proof has been found between Trump and Russia ties... [Re: koods]
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koods said:
You're embarrassingly naive. Russia is an intelligence state. Information, intimidation and blackmail is how putin stays in power. You really think they haven't made an effort to get as much info on a billionaire as they can?


Seems like speculation, based on zero evidence, that you're stating as fact. I think what you're saying is retarded and the conclusion you're alluding to is a delusional fairy tale fantasy scenario that the media concocted to trick the useful idiots. Sorry brah but you've been tricked. Plain and simple.


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Re: No proof has been found between Trump and Russia ties... [Re: Webster10]
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You really are going to go down with the ship, aren't you?


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NotSheekle said
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Re: No proof has been found between Trump and Russia ties... [Re: koods]
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koods said:
You really are going to go down with the ship, aren't you?


You already went down with your own ship when your deep state candidate lost the election. Now you're hanging on by a thread, trying to fervently shape the narrative in your favor in any way you can and literally no one besides butthurt retards are buying it :shrug:


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Re: No proof has been found between Trump and Russia ties... [Re: Webster10]
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Ha ha ha like Websters words are worth the shit he wipes from his ass


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Re: No proof has been found between Trump and Russia ties... (moved) [Re: koods] * 1
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koods said:
The Russians were absolutely behind the DNC hacks. The FBI has known this since last June. There's an entire report released by the intel community about it. They clearly targeted Clinton. You're not
A serious person if you can't accept these simple facts.


While I agree with you on most issues koods, there is absolutely NO evidence of the above.  In fact, the FBI even seemed to admit it didn't have anything solid on this.


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Re: No proof has been found between Trump and Russia ties... (moved) [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
koods said:
The Russians were absolutely behind the DNC hacks. The FBI has known this since last June. There's an entire report released by the intel community about it. They clearly targeted Clinton. You're not
A serious person if you can't accept these simple facts.


While I agree with you on most issues koods, there is absolutely NO evidence of the above.  In fact, the FBI even seemed to admit it didn't have anything solid on this.


The Russians obviously were behind it they have been funneling money towards destabilizing western democracies for decades.

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Re: No proof has been found between Trump and Russia ties... (moved) [Re: Cyrus19]
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There is good reason why the Putin regime would want Trump over Clinton.  Clinton was going to sanction Russia more.  Trump wants to lift sanctions for his oil buddies.

Motivation sometimes is enough to convict someone.  Motivation and opportunity with no other suspects.


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Re: No proof has been found between Trump and Russia ties... (moved) [Re: Cyrus19] * 1
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Cyrus19 said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
While I agree with you on most issues koods, there is absolutely NO evidence of the above.  In fact, the FBI even seemed to admit it didn't have anything solid on this.


The Russians obviously were behind it they have been funneling money towards destabilizing western democracies for decades.


Becuase you say so?  Your logical fallacy is...


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Re: No proof has been found between Trump and Russia ties... (moved) [Re: Morel Guy]
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Morel Guy said:
Motivation and opportunity with no other suspects.


There are other suspects. Intelligence leaks happen often, and it's not always state actors doing the leaking.

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Re: No proof has been found between Trump and Russia ties... (moved) [Re: PatrickKn]
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Well Russia has proved that otherwise, extremely heavily.

They just stole millions of yahoo account information.  They do that fishing for data to find login information of people that work for Uncle Sam.

Spying is mostly digital these days.  Handlers move people for more concrete solid physical objectives.


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Re: No proof has been found between Trump and Russia ties... (moved) [Re: Morel Guy]
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Demokkkrats hacked their own emails and said the Russians did it.  They did this to keep Satan from destroying the United States.  Trump is doing a good job as president.  The Clintons sold uranium to Russia.


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Re: No proof has been found between Trump and Russia ties... (moved) [Re: Luddite]
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You know the US has purchased 500 tons of highly enriched uranium from Russia since 1993. Half of the uranium used in nuclear power plants has come from Russia.


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NotSheekle said
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Re: No proof has been found between Trump and Russia ties... (moved) [Re: koods]
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koods said:
You know the US has purchased 500 tons of highly enriched uranium from Russia since 1993. Half of the uranium used in nuclear power plants has come from Russia.


What's that got to do with anything?  It was a good deal for both sides.

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Re: No proof has been found between Trump and Russia ties... (moved) [Re: qman]
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Don't worry about uranium. Saskatchewan has the largest deposits on earth. We're good for a while


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