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Re: Water in jars after PC [Re: freespeech]
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Yep probably too much heat... Well i wonder condensation in jars are really bad? Water is sterile i guess...after double-pcing.


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Re: Water in jars after PC [Re: LosAndreas36]
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The problem is that grain is not perfectly sterile even after a lengthy PC cycle. Excess water pooling in the jar allows any surviving bacteria to bloom ruining the spawn.


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Re: Water in jars after PC [Re: Pastywhyte]
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Hello shroomery...7 days from inoculation, myc is showed up in all jars, waiting for colonization.
Do this looks healthy. You can see grain stick to thw side of the jar. Will myc colonize it?


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Re: Water in jars after PC [Re: LosAndreas36]
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Or maybe i could cut it out before casing..


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Re: Water in jars after PC [Re: LosAndreas36]
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What is that on the bottom of the jar? Also rye and a bad picture or is it something else? Looks a bit like verm.

The white stuff seems to be myc, but the pictures are that bad that its hard to say if it really is.


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Re: Water in jars after PC [Re: AlCapone2k]
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LosAndreas36 said:



the 3rd pic is clear and shows its rye on top a layer of verm, with myc growing on the rye where it meets the verm


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Re: Water in jars after PC [Re: Munchauzen]
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What is that for a tek? Never heared of :smile:


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Re: Water in jars after PC [Re: AlCapone2k]
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Seems like he's condensing an old full casing tek into a kind of pf jar ish tek?


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Re: Water in jars after PC [Re: axis_tech]
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This is some old school shit. Putting verm on the bottom to soak up leftover water. Just use smaller holes on the lids and ya probably need better filters too. Also the foil when used for PCing is on tight to limit water from getting in. Then removed for colonization when you inoculate..

Soaking with h2o2 is a waste. It turns into h2o pretty damn quickly.


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Re: Water in jars after PC [Re: Mad Season]
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Yea and it's not going to do anything the pressure cooker wouldnt do, I'm guessing it's a typo or lost in translation either way there should not be that much moisture left in a jar.


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Re: Water in jars after PC [Re: axis_tech]
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Well i used foil for sure.the problem is one single grain are stick to the side of jar.if you dont see it ill take better pics today. I dont see any problems than some water in some jars.(not in all)


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Re: Water in jars after PC [Re: LosAndreas36]
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My jar is okay? It smelt just shrooms when i broke mycelium and cased it.
I want to make SGFC. Where should i drill holes? I measured, the size is fine for 4 casings inside. Just where i need to make holes, and can i use ceramsite instead of perlite?


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Re: Water in jars after PC [Re: LosAndreas36]
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LosAndreas36 said:
I want to make SGFC. Where should i drill holes?


EVERYWHERE........1/4" holes, 2" apart.


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Re: Water in jars after PC [Re: wolfedawwg]
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Thank you. Do my jar looks contaminated?


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Re: Water in jars after PC [Re: LosAndreas36]
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When grains are sticking to the sides of the jars like that it is usually a sign of a bacterial infection.
I can not really tell from my seat, I'd wit for a TC to chime in.  I would reccomend updating your tek and ditch the vermiculite in the bottom of the jars, however, as I. Said I am far from an expert.
I wish you all the best with your attempt.
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Re: Water in jars after PC [Re: A.RichardTrickle]
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A.RichardTrickle said:
When grains are sticking to the sides of the jars like that it is usually a sign of a bacterial infection.
Dick


True.
Wet spots and a lot of condensation are indices for bacterial contaminations.


An example of a massive bacterial contamination:


Another picture with signs of bacterial contamination:




The pictures you posted a week ago do not show signs of bacterial contamination. As others wrote you should still improve your technique. Can you post some new pictures?


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Re: Water in jars after PC [Re: enlightenment]
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i'm tired to say that water was JUST AFTER PC, and do you see water now? I don't. Just look the pics......i dont see any signs of contamination, but i want you guys to say your opinion. If you are so lazy so scroll up, here you go :


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Re: Water in jars after PC [Re: LosAndreas36]
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---When grains are sticking to the sides of the jars like that it is usually a sign of a bacterial infection.

you want to say that i had bacterial infection just after PC, just before inoculation? are you serious mate?

Here is some new pics :


I dont see sticking grains, any other colours than brown grains and white rhizomophic myc. I did soaked grains, i did doulbe PC more than 90+ minutes, used UV lamp, lots of alcohol, i did everything sterile as i could in my conditions. Yes there is some water because of myc living there, but condensation is above myc and grain lvl , so it doesnt touch it. When i broke and cased my jar, i noticed only shrooms odor nothing else.

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Re: Water in jars after PC [Re: LosAndreas36]
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The growth looks good. The condensation on the top of the jars is normal because the mycelium growth produces some heat (Temperature difference inside;outside -> condensation). Keep us posted.


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Re: Water in jars after PC [Re: enlightenment]
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Thank you for answer. I will post when jars are fully colonized, so just to make sure i dont have anything to worry about. Thanks again.


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