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Water in jars after PC
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Hi all. I used my PC, and after that sterilization, my jars turned wet inside. Water is on sides of jar, i remember jars were dry before PC. Well some jars are now turned dry again (smallest  one), but some of them still wet and some grains stick to jar because of water. Well what should i do? Its just 12 hours after inoculation..maybe its okay and jars will turn dry in few days. Well water is after double PCing anyways, so its sterile.


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Re: Water in jars after PC [Re: LosAndreas36]
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I used foil for sure, if anyone wants to know.


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Re: Water in jars after PC [Re: LosAndreas36]
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Have your jars completely elevated out of the water.


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Re: Water in jars after PC [Re: Pastywhyte]
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Yes, water level was around  5-6 cm, so jars was like half in water or less. Uploading pictures atm.


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Re: Water in jars after PC [Re: LosAndreas36]
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Some of jars are dry inside as i said, and they tend to dry ( thats my opinion, because all of them was wet, now few are drier than others), they were a lot more wet few days ago after first PC procedure. What to do, just keep waiting for myc to appear? I have a lot of verm also, as you can see

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Re: Water in jars after PC [Re: LosAndreas36]
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How did you prepare your grain?
Using a vermiculite layer on the bottom is pretty old school.

Take a look here:
http://www.mushroomvideos.com/Grain-Preparation


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Re: Water in jars after PC [Re: enlightenment]
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I soaked grains in h2o2 for 12 hours, cooked it for like 15-20 mins, then let it sit for a while, then PC two times. It always worked for me you know, we are here using old school teks. I think this could be syringe too, since spore syringe is water with spores. Also it could be condensate from PC.


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Re: Water in jars after PC [Re: LosAndreas36]
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I think i cant do anything now, jars are in incubator and i have just to sit and wait. Some of jars are dry so its not 100% fail.


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Re: Water in jars after PC [Re: LosAndreas36]
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Your fail rate can be reduced significantly by improving your methods.
Some of the condensation gets absorbed by the grain within 48 hours.
Anyway good luck


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Re: Water in jars after PC [Re: enlightenment]
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If water content is the issue then the ni fail wbs tek you seem to be following will fail you. Better to dry then too wet you are correct
With all grain a simple hot ish water soak for 20+ hour followed by draining to air dry 1 hour works best.

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Re: Water in jars after PC [Re: tump]
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Some of the condensation gets absorbed by the grain within 48 hours.

- i see, even after 5 hours its getting absorbed. I think tommorow i would be fine.


No, water content is not the issue. I did soaked grains, they boiled them, then dried on towel for few hours.


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Re: Water in jars after PC [Re: LosAndreas36]
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It looks to me like condensation, which is simply and indicator that temperatures inside the jar are higher than outside. Did you let them cool completely before taking them out?


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Re: Water in jars after PC [Re: Tiamo]
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After the PC cycle (one of 2 hours is enough) I shake them a bit and let them rest for at least six hours before inoculating. Then they lose all their water inside which is getting absorbed by the grains.

But don't worry, after my first time of grain preperation I also thoughht I made something wrong but it's quite normal that there is condesation after the PC cycle.


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Re: Water in jars after PC [Re: AlCapone2k]
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i hope u meant u soaked in H2o, not h2o2…that would be expensive and have no beneficial effect.

all that verm on the bottom is gonna dry out ur grains if u shake it.


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Re: Water in jars after PC [Re: blindingleaf]
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Oh, didn't even noticed that he wrote H2O2, beside the price for it I can't see andy advantage of saoking in peroxide.


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Re: Water in jars after PC [Re: AlCapone2k]
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I should shake it very strong, so the verm would mix with grains, everything would be from top to bottom? I soaked in h2o, but adding a small bottle of h2o2, then i changed my water few times, washed grains, and then only started cooking.

Some grains are stick to the sides of jar, i think these spots will have bacteria.

So should i shake jars totally, so verm from bottom will spread all around the jar? Also i see no visible life yet, 48 hours after inoculation. Temp is running 26.5С

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Re: Water in jars after PC [Re: LosAndreas36]
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LosAndreas36 said:
Yes, water level was around  5-6 cm, so jars was like half in water or less.


You don't need this much water. You need enough water that your pressure cooker doesn't run dry during the cycle, and much more water than that is not ideal for grain jars. In my PC, when I'm using jar rings to elevate my jars off the bottom of the cooker, I only need enough water to just come to the tops of those jar rings on the floor of the PC. Which is probably 2cm or so.

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Re: Water in jars after PC [Re: freespeech]
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Also my PC is ran out of water anyways, even that i used 6 cm of water.


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Re: Water in jars after PC [Re: LosAndreas36]
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i use 1.5 inches of water. sometimes more sometimes less.
barely above the rack in the pc.

if your pc runs out of 6cm of water you have the
heat turned up way to high.


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Re: Water in jars after PC [Re: mushboy]
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Either your PC is broken or you are doing it wrong. I have two PCs and they both lose virtually no water after running for 90-120 minutes.

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