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 isis
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 Re: Smelt Jars for contamination. I was taken to ER!!!  [Re: ChangLee]
#535684 - 01/30/02 07:41 AM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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Foolish Doctors, they are not listening to their patient.Crazy isn't it. You give them the answer, and they will not listen. A shot of Rocephin last 24hrs.Steroids are great but the wear off too. That maybe part of what happenned. The steroids helped but once they wear off, the swelling returned. I'm surprised they let you go home in the first place. They probably should have kept you in the hospital to keep a closer eye on you.God knows what got into your system.There are so many possibilities. It could be a bacterial infection.You could have had an allergic reaction to mold spores you inhaled causing your airway to swell. Keep going back or go to another place until someone takes you seriously. Don't mess around with this. I hope it is limited to just your throat. Best of luck to you. Be persistant.I'm not trying to scare you,but your life could depend on it. Last time I heard such a dramatic story it was 3M. He had inhaled some aspergillus Niger spores that day and by the next morning he was blacking out,short of breath and ended up in the hospital fighting for his life.He spent a long time in the hospital on oxygen, and it took him a long time to recover.
Please be careful with contaminants. Many of them are deadly. Your doctors are treating a bacterial infection, but what if it is fungal. If it is fungal, antibiotics will not touch it.In the mean time those doctors are wasting valuable time. If you do not get better, or get worse and no one understands why, insist on treatment to cover a fungal infection.(antifungals) Tell your family in case you get really sick or a friend. They don't have to know it was from mushrooms jars.
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Re: Smelt Jars for contamination. I was taken to ER!!! [Re: Roadkill]
#535687 - 01/30/02 07:46 AM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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I didn't realize the seriousness of contamination, I thought It would just kill your shrooms, and maybe you'd get sick if you ate contaminated ones, but getting sick from smelling a jar!!! Maybe someone should write up a bacterial safetey precautions tek, especially for the begginers like myself who have no ideas of the consequences. What's up with all the teks telling people to smell their jars to check for contams,
Edited by Bowevil (01/30/02 09:27 AM)
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Seuss
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Re: Smelt Jars for contamination. I was taken to ER!!! [Re: Bowevil]
#535719 - 01/30/02 08:42 AM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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The contamination forum has started to put together a contamination tek/faq. I am not sure what the status of it is.
As far as getting sick from contamination... think food poisoning. When food gets contaminated and you eat it, you usually get sick.
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Re: Smelt Jars for contamination. I was taken to ER!!! [Re: Seuss]
#535814 - 01/30/02 11:23 AM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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dude hang in there! im pullin for ya!
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JayBin
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 Re: Smelt Jars for contamination. I was taken to ER!!! [Re: Seuss]
#535831 - 01/30/02 11:37 AM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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First off, i was told if i have concerns about contamination to smell the jar! So i was told by other people to smell the jar. Its my fault for not smelling a foot away of whatever, and i did take a big ass whiff.... Last night my neck, throat, and ears were in serious pain. I am felling better this morning, but everything is repeating over and over. Get some meds fell better for awhile, then at night i have killer pain. I mean extreme pain in my neck and ears!! Once again i went to another doctor and she also said that its probably not possible. They wont listen to me. Its going to turn into something bigger untill something bad happens. I tried to explain that the bacteria will have all the nutrients to grow and that it had been growing for a good time. I explained that its in a closed jar, no air exchange. Still they dont listen
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Re: Smelt Jars for contamination. I was taken to ER!!! [Re: JayBin]
#535851 - 01/30/02 11:55 AM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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Chang Lee, thank you for your support! Fuck you. I really like the post about you talking about my ignorance.
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ar393
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Re: Smelt Jars for contamination. I was taken to ER!!! [Re: JayBin]
#536682 - 01/31/02 07:48 AM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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JB, in all honesty, sounds like a really bad allergic reaction. the mold could have been something that was lying around your house and you never had a problem with it unti lyou encountered it in such quantities. i remember about 3 years ago i was cleaning a jat for my cat that had just been overtaken by green ( i should a just thrown away the jar) but i sneezed and green got everywhere (including my lungs) and i ended up having the worst cough i ever had for about 10-12 days (so bad that i only could sleep when my body bascially failed from exhaustion because the caugh waw soo bad i couldnt sleep normally) . had to have chest xrays done, it fucking sucked. now if i ever see contams in jars they jar is injected with tons of iso-oh and then re-PCed then taken outside to be cleaned (also at the first sign of contam i chuck it the jar instead of tellingmy cat to wait until i have time). i only needed to learn once.
peace, ar393
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Re: Smelt Jars for contamination. I was taken to E [Re: JayBin]
#536762 - 01/31/02 09:59 AM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hang in there JB. Remember-squeeky wheel gets the grease. Just keep after the docs. Esp if you have HMO. There job is to make you go away so you gotta keep squaking at them. Often steroids and other allergy treatments can cause a rebound when they wear off. The symptoms come back just like at first. Molds and fungi are frequent causes of respiratory probs, both allergic and infection. Bring 'em the jar-seriously. If they lab test it they can tell exactly what you were exposed to. Tell them it was a science project. Tell them to be fucking careful even if they don't believe you!!! There are specific anti-fungal drugs if need be. Keep us posted and get well...
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JayBin
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 Re: Smelt Jars for contamination. I was taken to E [Re: DrStrange]
#537073 - 01/31/02 05:11 PM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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i am fellin better, but when the IB profen wears off i cant stand the pain. My neck is in pain all the time. I forgot to mension that ALL my pain in on the right side!! Right side of the troat, pain in right ear, and pain on the right side of my neck. I dont get it.
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Re: Smelt Jars for contamination. I was taken to ER!!! [Re: theseeker]
#537284 - 01/31/02 09:23 PM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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man, I hope your ok. It must be quite a scary expereince. Bacteria can be very dangerous. Just make sure next time, that you tell the doctor exactly what happed, and you should of accually shown him the jar. It would have been a good idea. Tehn he knows the circumstances. When your lifes on the line, I wouldn't worry about what the docter thinks your doing. I don't think he will care. Just say your in to mycology, and was doing an experiment or something. Anyway, I hope you get better:)
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Re: Smelt Jars for contamination. I was taken to ER!!! [Re: Glacius]
#537299 - 01/31/02 09:39 PM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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Which side do you sleep on, left or right?
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Glacius
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 Re: Smelt Jars for contamination. I was taken to ER!!! [Re: Glacius]
#537303 - 01/31/02 09:42 PM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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I also think we should have some sort of a"i'f you come to the shroomery you can't miss it"warning about this sort of stuff, so that people without as much expereince, and knowledge as the rest of us can be made to understand just how dangerous an old, contamed jar can be. Imagine some dude, thinking"oh, this red shit can't be that bad", and eating them!!
I'f I have a contamed jar, I throw it out right away. I don't even try and save the jar, it's not worth it.
Anyway, I wish you well again, and hope you pull through this one. Were all with you:)
Just remember for next time:don't open or smell the contamed jar!!:)
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isis
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Re: Smelt Jars for contamination. I was taken to E [Re: JayBin]
#537612 - 02/01/02 08:20 AM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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Jaybin, did they test you for strep throat?
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Re: Smelt Jars for contamination. I was taken to ER!!! [Re: JayBin]
#537642 - 02/01/02 09:00 AM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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maybe you caught mono or something or you do have strep throat like isis said
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JayBin
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Re: Smelt Jars for contamination. I was taken to ER!!! [Re: MickyFinn]
#537948 - 02/01/02 03:51 PM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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I got a blood test and a strep text. Both come out negative for mono and strep.
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Jammer
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 Re: Smelt Jars for contamination. I was taken to ER!!! [Re: JayBin]
#537969 - 02/01/02 04:33 PM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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Man can I relate dude! About 6 years ago, when at my friends house, I was near a small terarium. There was some contanamation, the water in the tank had a foul smell. (there was NO bleach or H202 in the water- it was most likely stagnet). I thought nothing about it. Within 2 days I came down with some of the scariest symtoms that I have ever had in my life. The first symtom was an EXTREMELY PAINFULLY SORE NECK, I could not turn my head either direction. I broke out in a cold sweat (in fact I was sweating profusly)- I starting haluncinating real bad/ starting blacking out. I started panic-ing. I started checking my tempeture every couple of minutes. I could not drive and my gal was at work. I called a neighbor... She advised me to go to the ER. I remeber asking another neighbor that I barely knew (and he didnt care for my lifestyle either) to drive me to the ER. By the time I got to see a doc my fever was 103!! (105 is brain damage) My fever was going up about one degree every 30 minutes. I started going into shock and I thought that I was haveing a heart attack. At that point a nurse screamed at me to chill me out. (thank God for her, 'cuz I needed it)
Finally I got to speak to a doc- I described my symtoms and told him about the joint that I had earlier in the day etc... He told me (I had no insurance) without any test other than looking at my eyballs that I had Strep Throat! I thought NO WAY IS THIS STREP THROAT>... However it was explained to me that some strains are very serious and that it can kill you etc.... I was given a script for some shity antibotics and Tylenol #3... And was sent home with a 100 degree fever (at least it was going down). I was told that I would be fine in a week or so... IT TOOK ME OVER SIX WEEKS TO FULLY RECOUPERATE!! I really thought that I was going to die, damm I was in soooooooo much pain from the swelled up glands in my throat that I could barely even eat.
A few weeks after I got better I had a relative come down with something VERY simuilar to what I had.... I often wondered if some how he caught it from me (could this be contagious??)
Oh well, hang in there man. Too bad you cant submit a sample of the fungus for a lab to test without risking the law. It's the only way of knowing for sure.
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Re: Smelt Jars for contamination. I was taken to ER!!! [Re: JayBin]
#538000 - 02/01/02 05:14 PM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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You know who's opinion that we really need about this subject? MURPLE!!!!!!!!
That guy is about as smart as it gets with these kind of issues. I think that he is studying Pharmacology or something.
Somebody should PM him about this thread!
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JayBin
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 Re: Smelt Jars for contamination. I was taken to ER!!! [Re: Jammer]
#538051 - 02/01/02 06:22 PM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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I dont have strep throat. I was tested two different times, and no i dont have mono. I got a blood test. If i get off my pain med's its really bad, but its kinda gettin better. Everything on the right side of my head is pretty much in pain. Mainly my neck. What i dont get is that the right side of my throat is hurting. Its odd. i will keep posting
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Jammer
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Re: Smelt Jars for contamination. I was taken to ER!!! [Re: JayBin]
#538064 - 02/01/02 06:33 PM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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I dont believe that I had Strep Throat either. I went to a City hospital in a gangster turf type neihborhood. (it was the closest) All that the doc did was to feel my swollen neck, look inside my throat, and check my eyes (think he might of thought that I was just tripping on something)- There was no other test done... no blood test 'cuz I had no money nor any insurance.
I have also never encountered a person that can describe a bout of strip throat that sounded as bad as what I went thru. It was hell. (DAMM THE PAIN SUCKED!)
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Re: Smelt Jars for contamination. I was taken to ER!!! [Re: JayBin]
#538093 - 02/01/02 07:21 PM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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Tell him you were growing shiitake mushrooms. If youve gotten a fungal infection, that could be very dangerous. Antibiotics will fix it up in a few days.
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