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Re: well [Re: TheKid04]
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ok I'm sorry for pointing out your false statement, and now that you've clarified, I agree - this report was very well written indeed.

Ekom, take your time :wink: There's absolutely no rush with this stuff. As is implied by ChinaCat, one could spend several lifetimes with this stuff and still not really be able to express what happens with it.

edit: Shpongle, anyone? hehe anybody who's interested in DMT should listen VERY CLOSELY to Shpongle at CD quality for a taste of the sonic phenomenon that occurs - IMO Shpongle externalizes the experience way better than Mckenna ever did


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Re: IV DMT Revisited [Re: KackleDude]
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KackleDude said:
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DMT allows us to travel to other worlds that our wildest imaginations couldn't even fathom. I would blast into a plane and there would be a celabration.
The were so happy to have company.


Y' ever wonder what 'they' are? are they within you or other-worldly.. or both? sounds near-impossible to describe with language. Thanks again


China - I think ive read that you disliked salvia because it was too rough. Ill agree, but still will explore furthur.

Anyways,

I was wondering about what you think about the "other worlds?" Im going on an assumption that you believe they are continuous dimensions which you've been allowed into for a short while - any elaboration on that? How do these realms exist? What are they? ...

The reason i ask, is because i believe that salvia is the gateway into another continuous realm - although its more like chaos, my experiences have all shared have really made me think tremendously about this - and im not quite sure what i believe.


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Re: IV DMT Revisited [Re: PDU]
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> and im not quite sure what i believe.

Don't loose that attitude.  :smile:  After all the years of different experiences I have had, it all boils down to that... I'm not quite sure what to believe.  For me, the realization that I simply will never know has been a blessing in disguise.


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Re: IV DMT Revisited [Re: Seuss]
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I think IV DMT has just made its way on to my 'Things to do before I die' list :smile:


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Re: IV DMT Revisited [Re: Whiteh]
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I want to try DMT sooo bad. After you have the right dmt containing material the extraction is not that hard is it? Sounds like a drug that I would enjoy a lot. Peace.


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Re: IV DMT Revisited [Re: RespectTheFungus]
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> After you have the right dmt containing material the extraction is not that hard is it?

I honestly prefer the drink over the smoke.  I have never IVd, so I can't say one way or another there.  The drink is absolutely horrid tasting... by far the worst tasting thing I have ever put into my body, but the trip is worth it.  The smoke is easier to take, but the trip is closer to being shot out of a cannon.  I like the nice, slow, long lasting mellow way the drink takes me.  Either way, the DMT extraction is probably one of the easist, safest, most rewarding "kitchen chemistry" things one can do.  Just be sure that it is legal in your area... I wouldn't want anybody getting in trouble for something I recommended.  :smile:


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Re: IV DMT Revisited [Re: PDU]
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China - I think ive read that you disliked salvia because it was too rough.


I dislike salivia becuase I gain absolutaly nothing from the experiance. I found nothing valuable in it at all. It's intense and mindbending, but in the end it's worthless to me. With a chemical like DMT available salivia is a waste of my time.

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I was wondering about what you think about the "other worlds?" Im going on an assumption that you believe they are continuous dimensions which you've been allowed into for a short while - any elaboration on that? How do these realms exist? What are they? ...


I'm not sure how to answer these questions. Are these realms real? Yes just as real as this physical one. There is really no way to get any footing on these realms and how or why they exist. Coming back into this plane you lose alot of info and are just left with the knowlege that what we see in our everyday reality and what exists are very different. DMT is a special psychedelic. While having ego-death is a very important and life changing experiance, DMT offers us more.
It allows us to see that there is so infinitly much more than this simple plane of existance.

You don't leave with any keys or any secret recipes that will solve our riddles. Instead it humbles you by showing you that the universe(inner+outer) is a much bigger place then our inadequate minds can grasp.


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Re: IV DMT Revisited [Re: chinacat72]
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I only really enjoy salvia when I smoke it with somebody else, because suddenly I'm there and they appear in the same place! it feels much more "objective" or rather "collectively subjective" or something heh


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Re: IV DMT Revisited [Re: chinacat72]
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chinacat72 said:
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I'm not sure how to answer these questions. Are these realms real? Yes just as real as this physical one. There is really no way to get any footing on these realms and how or why they exist. Coming back into this plane you lose alot of info and are just left with the knowlege that what we see in our everyday reality and what exists are very different. DMT is a special psychedelic. While having ego-death is a very important and life changing experiance, DMT offers us more.
It allows us to see that there is so infinitly much more than this simple plane of existance.

You don't leave with any keys or any secret recipes that will solve our riddles. Instead it humbles you by showing you that the universe(inner+outer) is a much bigger place then our inadequate minds can grasp.


That is exactly what my first comprehension shattering salvia experience did to me. Im not sure if im humbled, but im definately aware of the other physical planes of existance - and the salvia plane redefined how i perceived reality, because what i was offered was an extensive explanation for the fabric of reality as i know it - stunning as it was.

Lastly, Do you think of the salvia realm to be continuous like DMT, or this only me - i havent got too much feedback from anyone on that, and i have such extensive beliefs about it.


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Re: IV DMT Revisited [Re: chinacat72]
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dant triptoo hard anymore just smoke it...i think shrooms are potent enogh..keep it cool!!


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Re: IV DMT Revisited [Re: scott2004bc]
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umm.................what?


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Re: IV DMT Revisited [Re: chinacat72]
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Wow that is about the time I first experienced psychedelics...I wanna try DMT on a shroom trip...I am going to experience LSD here again soon after all it has been 9 years since I done a trippy drug!! heheh!


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Re: IV DMT Revisited [Re: chinacat72]
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that is an amazing report, it's good to be dwarfed once in a while, it makes you appreciate the simple things in life. Watch your health, play it safe... better have a life time of a little less extreme trips than have a coupld of mind-blowing ones that end up killing you.... in my oppinion you can gain more from the "weaker" ones in the long term than from the really wicked ones if they kill you :-D

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Re: IV DMT Revisited [Re: scott2004bc]
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wow i find that i gain the most from salvia than almost any other drug
granted i have yet to eeriance dmt
but salvia sends me to difrent worlds and introduses me to incredible beings
usualy on salvia i have a great conection with nature and i feel as if mother earth is speaking to me
i have changed many of my habbits because of salvia experiances


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Re: IV DMT Revisited [Re: Infrared]
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DeepBlue42 said:
umm.................what?


Lol. You totally posted my thoughts on that reply for me. Thanks

And I agreee. The "Things I do before I die" list is updated for me as well. Maybe if I'm like..90, and I can't walk, I'll just IV 100Mg, figure out infinity, and then die taking the secret with me  :lol:


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Re: IV DMT Revisited [Re: freddurgan]
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That's funny freddurgan, i thought of almost the exact same thing :tongue: Was even thinking 100mg!


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Re: IV DMT Revisited [Re: anarchyhollow]
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I've always thought that when I get wheelchair bound, is when I'm going to go all out. Might as well!


I think the idea of knowing that you're not going to unlock all the secerts of the universe is certainly a relief, mainly because it means we can always be in wonderment at it. There's always more to explore and experince. I guess that's the price of infinity. Sure, it's scary, but I think that fear is a bit misleading. There's always the thought "what if it gets worse", but I think everything's ok, long term.


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The very nature of experience is ineffable; it transcends cognitive thought and intellectualized analysis. To be without experience is to be without an emotional knowledge of what the experience translates into. The desire for the understanding of what life is made of is the motivation that drives us all. Without it, in fear of the experiences what life can hold is among the greatest contradictions; to live in fear of death while not being alive.


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Re: IV DMT Revisited [Re: Twirling]
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Its like throwing yourself on a psychedelic grenade

- Chinacat

word :laugh:


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Re: IV DMT Revisited [Re: chinacat72]
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Chinacat:
Did you always use 5-meo-dmt, or extracted. I have heard major differences between the 2.


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Re: IV DMT Revisited [Re: Staypuft]
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I never use 5 meo-DMT. I use synthetic n,n DMT(real DMT).
I bought a gram of 5 meo DMT years ago and after trying it flushed the rest down the toilet. 5 meo-DMT is complete crap compared to n,n DMT. In fact there is no comparison between the two. There not even similar experiance wise.


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