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Combining DMT & Psilocin - both vapd!
    #4252472 - 06/03/05 04:21 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

anyone every try doing a PureGrain alcohol extraction on some mushies, taking the resulting extracted psilocin crystal and vaping it piggiebacked w/ n,n,Dmt?? :eek: i've eatin mushies and vap'd dmt at the peak and watched the universe dance with me.. :rocket:  but ever since i've found this psilo-extraction tech@ http://deoxy.org/codex/Mushrooms/Alkaloid_Extraction  .. i've been curious as to if anyone's had the balls to try this (ps.. deoxy's been down for a little while.. expect the link to work sooner or later)


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Re: Combining DMT & Psilocin - both vapd! [Re: 3six5]
    #4252521 - 06/03/05 04:30 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

The vaporisation temperature for psilocin is going to be, well, low. Psilocin is a relatively unstable molecule, particularly to heat, if memory serves me correctly, which is why it is packaged in Psilocybin for us.


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Re: Combining DMT & Psilocin - both vapd! [Re: 3six5]
    #4252562 - 06/03/05 04:40 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

There is a guy who did vape just the psilocin and it worked. I think I read his report on erowid but I'm not sure. He compared it to DMT.
Some people report slight effects from smoking shrooms. I myself have never gotten anything that I wouldn't attribute to placebo, yet some people swear they get a little something when they smoke the fungus. However smoking mushrooms is very foolish, but I think that vaporizing extracted psilocin might work. Some guy said it did, and I am inclined to believe him.


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Re: Combining DMT & Psilocin - both vapd! [Re: delta9]
    #4252570 - 06/03/05 04:43 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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delta9 said:
The vaporisation temperature for psilocin is going to be, well, low. Psilocin is a relatively unstable molecule, particularly to heat, if memory serves me correctly, which is why it is packaged in Psilocybin for us.




Both Psilocin and Psilocybin are sensitive to oxidation which is increased as the temperature increases, Psilocin more so than Psilocybin.

Psilocybin is converted to Psilocin when consumed by humans orally.

I have never used DMT but trip reports of when is has been consumed orally with a MAOI say it is very like a Psilocin trip.

And Psilocin's chemicaly isn't that far off from DMT.

It appears that nature has given us the same chemical to experience in differnet ways.

So I would say there wouldnt be much point in smoking them both.


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Re: Combining DMT & Psilocin - both vapd! [Re: MattWhite]
    #4253284 - 06/03/05 08:02 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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So I would say there wouldnt be much point in smoking them both.




what other purpose to life could there be to try and experiance everything and have fun doing it? :grin:
i can't wait till i can try this combo, i think it'd be the ultimate :crazy2:


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Re: Combining DMT & Psilocin - both vapd! [Re: 3six5]
    #4253304 - 06/03/05 08:12 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

doesnt DMT vap at like 80degs?


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Re: Combining DMT & Psilocin - both vapd! [Re: liveby]
    #4254274 - 06/04/05 12:35 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

it has a very low melting point yes.. but i still use a torch to the glass pipe to get the hit quick and in one breath

edit--
N,N-Dimethyltryptamine
MELTING POINT 44.6-46.8?C (116?F) (crystals)
BOILING POINT 60-80?C (140-176?F) (crystals)
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Psilocybin --3-[2-(Dimethylamino)ethyl]-1H-indol-4-ol dihydrogen phosphate ester

MELTING POINT 220-228? C (Crystals from boiling water)
MELTING POINT 185-195? C (Crystals from methanol)
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Psilocin -- 3-[2-(Dimethylamino)ethyl]-1H-indol-4-ol

MELTING POINT 173-176? C (plates from methanol)
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Re: Combining DMT & Psilocin - both vapd! [Re: 3six5]
    #4261630 - 06/05/05 11:19 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

so yea think.. two seperate pipes? and not piggybacked?
what if... melting them two together creates something new.. wouldnt that be... >:D


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Re: Combining DMT & Psilocin - both vapd! [Re: 3six5]
    #4314429 - 06/19/05 07:12 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

extraction links up@
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http://deoxy.org/codex/Mushrooms/Alkaloid_Extraction

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Re: Combining DMT & Psilocin - both vapd! [Re: 3six5]
    #4316465 - 06/20/05 11:14 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

If you have resonably pure psilocin, you can vaporize it effectivly (flame cannot touch it), and it works pretty well. Combining that with DMT seems highly unnecessary!

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Re: Combining DMT & Psilocin - both vapd! [Re: 3six5]
    #4320468 - 06/21/05 01:34 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I have been interested in IVing psilocybin +DMT. :evil: :eek: :tongue: :tongue2:

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Re: Combining DMT & Psilocin - both vapd! [Re: chinacat72]
    #4322677 - 06/22/05 12:10 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

just do it and report back. it like its worth a try to me. in fact china cat, if i remember correctly, now only doses mush with dmt since he doesn't have time for long acid trips anymore. he says the combo gets him where he wants to go so i'm thinkin that it would be even better if both were vaped. good luck!


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