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DMT Safety & Use
    #4536487 - 08/15/05 02:37 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I got a hold of about 100mg worth of DMT. I got it because I want some answers in my life right now, and I need something to shine the light on the right path. Im also an avid fan of Shpongle. I've tried aayahusca before, but it was nothing like I read up on DMT before.

Question 1: How safe is it? I've found nothing on Erowid, and a few people told me that it takes a few years of your life each time you do it. Im only smoking about 40mg, and giving the rest away to a few crazy fuckers like myself. Im also an epileptic, but then again I've tripped on mushrooms about 70 times, 20 on LSD, and 5 on Mescaline, and consider myself a vet in handling my trips.

Question 2: Do I need a crack pipe to smoke it? Can I just warm up a pipe, put some nugget in, and sprinkle some Deamsters?

To make this mundane world sublime, take half a gram of Dimethyltryptamine... :teleport:


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Re: DMT Safety & Use [Re: Fospher]
    #4536741 - 08/15/05 04:28 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I suggest you find good info before you waste your precious limited amount of dmt. A torch (butane) will work better than a lighter, wrap it in a parsley (or similar leaf) and work it good.

Read DMT, "The Spirit Mollecule" by Dr. Rick Straussman (sp?).

DMT is pretty safe, but as Terrance McKenna says, there is always a chance you could die of shock. If you have a weak heart, avoid DMT.

www.dmtworld.com or something similar to that address, may prove helpful.


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Re: DMT Safety & Use [Re: Rose]
    #4537478 - 08/15/05 12:53 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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I suggest you find good info before you waste your precious limited amount of dmt. A torch (butane) will work better than a lighter, wrap it in a parsley (or similar leaf) and work it good.




So crack pipe, or no crack pipe?

Someone told me this: Since DMT is naturally occuring in your body, when you smoke it, the very small amounts are being secreted. DMT only secretes twice in your life, on your very first breath and when you die. When you smoke it, you take away chunks of your life.

Sounds like an urban myth to me, but I need a confirm.

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Re: DMT Safety & Use [Re: Fospher]
    #4537794 - 08/15/05 02:17 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

You'll be fine, check out this website:
http://dmt.lycaeum.org/


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Re: DMT Safety & Use [Re: Fospher]
    #4538032 - 08/15/05 03:15 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

A crack pipe (sigh) could help, but it is not required. A HOT torch is MOST important. DMT is released into the brain 49 days after conception and again before death.

It is suspected that alien abductions and near death experiences are DMT related.


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Re: DMT Safety & Use [Re: Rose]
    #4538180 - 08/15/05 03:43 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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A crack pipe (sigh) could help, but it is not required. A HOT torch is MOST important. DMT is released into the brain 49 days after conception and again before death.




Do you have any references with that being documented as being true. How could they test that. I think that sounds like speculation.


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Re: DMT Safety & Use [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #4538225 - 08/15/05 03:53 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I think he is getting this a bit mixed up.

The pineal gland is formed 49 days after conception. This is well documented.

As to Fospher's question, like most myths, that has a sprinkle of truth on top of some bullshit. It is THEORIZED that DMT is released in sufficient quantities to induce a psychadelic state during birth, and shortly before death, and a few other special states. It is also theorized that the pineal gland is what produces DMT but no one knows much of anything for certain. This is all very open to speculation.

Read up on the technique of smoking DMT because it is not like smoking weed. You cannot hold the flame directly to the DMT or you will waste it. You must hold the flame far enough that the DMT melts and then you inhale the vapor. The smoke is very harsh so be prepared.

Definitely recommend reading DMT: The Spirit Molecule, as Cervantes recommended. It is one of the most important and fascinating books I have ever read, and I read a lot of books.


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Re: DMT Safety & Use [Re: Fospher]
    #4538249 - 08/15/05 04:01 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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Question 1: How safe is it? I've found nothing on Erowid, and a few people told me that it takes a few years of your life each time you do it. Im only smoking about 40mg, and giving the rest away to a few crazy fuckers like myself. Im also an epileptic, but then again I've tripped on mushrooms about 70 times, 20 on LSD, and 5 on Mescaline, and consider myself a vet in handling my trips.




Go to www.erowid.org, click "Plants and Drugs". Second row down, first column, "DMT". Tons of information. It's a very safe substance.
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Question 2: Do I need a crack pipe to smoke it? Can I just warm up a pipe, put some nugget in, and sprinkle some Deamsters?




Personally I prefer a test tube. Put a rubber cork in the top with two glass tubes going in. One should be about a quarter inch away from the bottom of the tube and the other should be about an inch from the top. Put the DMT in and hold ovre a candle. Hit slowly and use the second tube (the shorter one) as a carburator.


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Re: DMT Safety & Use [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4538272 - 08/15/05 04:09 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Get a needle and and a spoon and a small piece of a cotton swab and some water and your dmt and put that shit in your bloodstream the best way,no bullshit.


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Re: DMT Safety & Use [Re: Fospher]
    #4538306 - 08/15/05 04:18 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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Question 1: How safe is it? I've found nothing on Erowid, and a few people told me that it takes a few years of your life each time you do it.





It should be pointed out that this is not true. DMT is an endogenous (natural occuring) chemical in the brain. While it's role is pretty much speculation at this point, it certainly would not lead to loss of years to your life.

Since you have a lot of years of tripping experience, you should be somewhat familar with the territory, but if you do it right and "break-through", it should be rather mind-blowing. The type of thing you can't really expect.

I really wish I could explore DMT further. It fascinates me to no end.


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Re: DMT Safety & Use [Re: yungmind1]
    #4538376 - 08/15/05 04:33 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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Get a needle and and a spoon and a small piece of a cotton swab and some water and your dmt and put that shit in your bloodstream the best way,no bullshit.




It's worth noting that doing DMT through injection adds a few dangers, due to human error in making sure it's pure enough, the right solution, injecting method, etc... If someone wants to go that route, they should do a whole lot more reading and understanding before attempting it.


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Re: DMT Safety & Use [Re: yungmind1]
    #4538687 - 08/15/05 05:50 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I would not inject extracted DMT.


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Re: DMT Safety & Use [Re: gdman]
    #4539817 - 08/15/05 10:18 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

true, but id smoke the shit out of it :laugh: :wink:


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Re: DMT Safety & Use [Re: coda]
    #4539864 - 08/15/05 10:28 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

i would suggest using a vaporizer (never smoked dmt myself) because its a chemical instead of a plant, but i duno never done it myself


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Re: DMT Safety & Use [Re: SerioOria]
    #4539978 - 08/15/05 10:51 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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i would suggest using a vaporizer (never smoked dmt myself) because its a chemical instead of a plant, but i duno never done it myself




Then why are you suggesting it? Doesn't seem like a good idea at all to me.


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Re: DMT Safety & Use [Re: Limelight]
    #4540161 - 08/15/05 11:22 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

A vaporizer is pretty much the only thing you can use to smoke DMT. Putting it in a pipe and hitting it with a lighter would be a waste.


gdman - Injecting extracted DMT isn't bad for you if you did the extraction right. Recrystallization and washing the crystals in a filter paper will yield some damn pure results. Not that I'd recommend it, but it's their trip, not mine.


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Re: DMT Safety & Use [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4540224 - 08/15/05 11:38 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I've never heard of smoking it out of a vap, but whatever works i guess. I also did a lot of reading on the subject.

I ehard a lightbulb is best.


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Re: DMT Safety & Use [Re: Limelight]
    #4540349 - 08/16/05 12:30 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

A lightbulb IS a vaporizer :smile:  Heating a chemical up to it's boiling point causes it to form a vapor.  The light bulb acts as the vaporizer and your lungs act as a condensor.


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Re: DMT Safety & Use [Re: Rose]
    #4540468 - 08/16/05 01:11 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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QuantumMeltdown said:

Do you have any references with that being documented as being true. How could they test that. I think that sounds like speculation.




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Read DMT, "The Spirit Mollecule" by Dr. Rick Straussman.





It is a VERY scientific look at DMT. I think you can find the e-book on the Psychedelic Culture Library. :wink:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/newreply...mp;vc=1&q=1


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Re: DMT Safety & Use [Re: Rose]
    #4540775 - 08/16/05 02:47 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks for the help - and for the person that pointed out Erowid - it doesnt have any health risks info, just chemical comp and dosage stuff.

I remember seeing a making a lightbulb vaporizer pictorial link here somewhere. Does anyone still have it?


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