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When your brain cells are killed from smoking alot of weed..
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do they ever come back? the reason i ask is i quit smokin weed like 3 weeks ago and i still feel pretty burnt most of the time.. am i gonna be burnt forever or does this eventually go away


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Re: When your brain cells are killed from smoking alot of weed.. [Re: MikeHuntShrooms]
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No... once a brain cell is killed, that's it... no more brian cell.


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Re: When your brain cells are killed from smoking alot of weed.. [Re: djd586]
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certain brain cells are reproducable, and some will automatically regenerate, while others will not, some repair will be done by your body, no way to tell, it would be different with every persons gene makeup and what not.

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Re: When your brain cells are killed from smoking alot of weed.. [Re: MikeHuntShrooms]
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yeah, when i have been smoking regularily for a long time i feel stupid too.

After a month it's usually fine, and after 3 or 4 its baseline again.


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Re: When your brain cells are killed from smoking alot of weed.. [Re: recalcitrant]
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smoking stimulates your cells


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Re: When your brain cells are killed from smoking alot of weed.. [Re: MikeHuntShrooms]
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weed doesnt do permanent damage...if oyure a big smoker and you stop, youll see that a month after your mind is clearer...the negative effects of smoking pot wear off after some time ...

if a substance gets you high it doesnt mean that its because its fuckin up your brain ...unless youre inhaling gas vapors or sometn ;p

Edited by Grapefruity (12/15/03 09:07 PM)

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Re: When your brain cells are killed from smoking alot of weed.. [Re: MikeHuntShrooms]
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It's common to feel slow or burnt out if you've been smoking a lot. A month or two, it should clear up.
I doubt it's from killed off brain cells - I'm sure SOME brain cells were killed, but not enough to turn you into a drooling retard. By the way, getting drunk kills a few brain cells.

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Re: When your brain cells are killed from smoking alot of weed.. [Re: Sheepish]
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lol sheepish.. thx for the information guys


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Re: When your brain cells are killed from smoking alot of weed.. [Re: MikeHuntShrooms]
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Pot doesn't kill brain cells. If you smoke it all the time it will cause alterations in brain chemistry that will make you feel burnt and dopey. Stop smoking and your brain chemistry will return to nomral.

To avoid this don't smoke all the time. Pot is much more interesting when smoked infrequently.

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Re: When your brain cells are killed from smoking alot of weed.. [Re: djd586]
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> No... once a brain cell is killed, that's it... no more brian cell.

I read a research paper about two years ago that shows this is not true. I don't remember the specifics, but they were able to show that the brain does generate new cells. At the time the research had not been duplicated and I haven't read any more about it.


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Re: When your brain cells are killed from smoking alot of weed.. [Re: Seuss]
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You are right, there have been several studies to date confirming that certain sections of the brain do regenerate cells. Here's an article about one of them.

http://www.princeton.edu/pr/pwb/99/0405/brain.htm

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Re: When your brain cells are killed from smoking alot of weed.. [Re: MikeHuntShrooms]
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I remember being told in DARE that any type of drug use will kill brain cells, and that they'd never grow back.

They didn't mention how many brain cells are killed by getting drunk. Wonder why?

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Re: When your brain cells are killed from smoking alot of weed.. [Re: Seuss]
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Seuss said:
> No... once a brain cell is killed, that's it... no more brian cell.

I read a research paper about two years ago that shows this is not true. I don't remember the specifics, but they were able to show that the brain does generate new cells. At the time the research had not been duplicated and I haven't read any more about it.


yea, the brain can produce more brain cells, but once they die, i'm pretty sure they are totally dead. i can't believe people react like i'm ridiculous when i tell thempot doesn't kil brain cells. i mean, we're talking people who don't know the difference between THC anddelta-9-THC. c'mon guys, i think i know a bit more about it than these people. not saying they aren't intelligent, but i spend a LOT of my time looking for new info on the way things work. i've never found one true reference to pot killing brain cells. but whatever, thats me pseudo-ranting


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Re: When your brain cells are killed from smoking alot of weed.. [Re: MikeHuntShrooms]
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3 weeks? how much were you smoking before that?

i used to be a rather heavy pot smoker. the clouds cleared pretty fast after i cut back though (not 3 weeks).

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Re: When your brain cells are killed from smoking alot of weed.. [Re: entiformatie]
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Quote:
but i spend a LOT of my time looking for new info on the way things work. i've never found one true reference to pot killing brain cells.

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How the brain makes new neurons:

-  Scientific American

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Re: When your brain cells are killed from smoking alot of weed.. [Re: ]
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i always smoked on occasion but for the past year and a half i been smokin on average 10 blizzles a day just cause most of my friends sell the shit and i did at one point and when every half hour there is another blunt being passed its hard to just say no


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Re: When your brain cells are killed from smoking alot of weed.. [Re: MikeHuntShrooms]
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10 blunts a day? God damm dude.


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Re: When your brain cells are killed from smoking alot of weed.. [Re: gdman]
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Re: When your brain cells are killed from smoking alot of weed.. [Re: Adden]
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s2dope said:
They didn't mention how many brain cells are killed by getting drunk. Wonder why?



yeah good point, its so true.  im pretty sure that it kills more brain cells when you drink than when you smoke, cause when you smoke the only thing that hurts your brain cells would be holding your breath after taking a huge bong rip :grin:


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Re: When your brain cells are killed from smoking alot of weed.. [Re: MikeHuntShrooms]
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not saying anything negative, but damm, how big are your blunts? I'm not much of a blunt guy myself, but everyone smokes them up here so that's what I smoke.


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Re: When your brain cells are killed from smoking alot of weed.. [Re: gdman]
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i try rollin at least a 20 in a blunt


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Re: When your brain cells are killed from smoking alot of weed.. [Re: Adden]
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They didn't mention how many brain cells are killed by getting drunk. Wonder why?

Brain cells killed while drunk? Source please....

http://www.wonderquest.com/BrainCells.htm

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Re: When your brain cells are killed from smoking alot of weed.. [Re: MikeHuntShrooms]
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your brain is fine, you silly pothead.

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Re: When your brain cells are killed from smoking alot of weed.. [Re: ]
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lol immaculate..


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Re: When your brain cells are killed from smoking alot of weed.. [Re: Annom]
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wow, thank you :-)


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Re: When your brain cells are killed from smoking alot of weed.. [Re: Annom]
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That's interesting. Thanks for posting that :smile:

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Re: When your brain cells are killed from smoking alot of weed.. [Re: entiformatie]
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Weed's a narcotic and places sludge in your system which take s awhile to come out. Also the brain chemicals need some time to readjust to waking reality. You'll be perfectly fine in awhile. I don't think smoking pot kills brain cells. If someone said it did then I think they were lying.


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Re: When your brain cells are killed from smoking alot of weed.. [Re: eve69]
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weed isn't a narcotic. interstingly enough, som guy got off a dui charge because the state laws specify that you can't drive under the influence of narcotics, but pot isn't a narcotic. given, sometimes its grouped along with narcotics, but it doesn't fit the actual definition. weed is unique in that aspect, that it can't really be classified.


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Re: When your brain cells are killed from smoking alot of weed.. [Re: entiformatie]
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i thought the ganja was considered a psychedelic....

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Re: When your brain cells are killed from smoking alot of weed.. [Re: billy cuts]
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I get the Norml newsletter every week in my e-mail and I remember about a year or 2 ago one of the newsletters posted the results from a study that showed that cannibinoids actually PROTECTED brain cells.  Apparently they were getting some rats stoned and pummeling them in the head with something and recording the amount of brain damage that occurred and the ones that were stoned endured much less brain damage than those that were sober.  I have also read and heard from a doctor that the chemicals in pot build up between the synapses of your brain cells and nerves and slow down the signals in your brain/nervous system.  It makes sense cause my head feels more and more "clogged up" the longer I go without a break, and the longer I take a break it seems the more my head clears up and I think faster.  The quality of my thoughts isn't decreased, but I definitely notice them flowing a lot faster if I go a day or two without smoking... I lack the self-control and non-smoking friends to go without it long enough to see what happens out after a month. I'm pretty sure after a week I'd get sick of myself cause I'm too quick-witted and hyperactive when I don't smoke... makes my friends feel dumb/slow. :smile:

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Re: When your brain cells are killed from smoking alot of weed.. [Re: TheSlapnCapn]
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If it doesn't kill brain cells, how does it get you `high'?
Killing brain cells is not a pre-requisite for getting `high.' Marijuana contains a chemical which substitutes for a natural brain chemical, with a few differences. This chemical touches special `buttons' on brain cells called `receptors.' Essentially, marijuana `tickles' brain cells. The legal drug alcohol also tickles brain cells, but it will damage and kill them by producing toxins (poisons) and sometimes mini-seizures. Also, some drugs will wear out the buttons which they push, but marijuana does not.

I am SO FUCKING sick of hearing that Cannabis kills brain cells!!!

Look , when you eat a meal..guess what happens you kill brain cells, when yo hold yor breath REAL LONG yo kill brain cells , but cannabis doesnt , as long as you dont act like a kid a hold yor hoot for a minute straight.

READ MARJUANA MYTHS, MARIJUANA FACTS
its a great book and its up to date.


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Re: When your brain cells are killed from smoking alot of weed.. [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
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http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/3012.html
Cannabinoids prevent brain damage
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/2255.html
Cannabinoid treats tumours


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Re: When your brain cells are killed from smoking alot of weed.. [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
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word... i was too lazy to find links.  That argument is fucking tired though... and it's still probably the most prevalent reason people have for not smoking.  "yeah right... i like my brain... i'm not gonna kill my brain cells..."  dumbasses... oh well... less demand = more supply for me :smile:

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Re: When your brain cells are killed from smoking alot of weed.. [Re: TheSlapnCapn]
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"yeah right... i like my brain... i'm not gonna kill my brain cells..." dumbasses... oh well... less demand = more supply for me"

very true HOWEVER...........

their ignorance will last longer if they are uneducated.


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Re: When your brain cells are killed from smoking alot of weed.. [Re: MikeHuntShrooms]
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the only way that smoking weed will kill braincells is if you bash yourself repeatedly over the head with the bong straight after ripping a few.


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Re: When your brain cells are killed from smoking alot of weed.. [Re: Hanky]
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Shit I knew I shouldn't have done that last night

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Re: When your brain cells are killed from smoking alot of weed.. [Re: MikeHuntShrooms]
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It's all in your head. If your that worried about brain cells you better not jog or get jolted in any way.


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Re: When your brain cells are killed from smoking alot of weed.. [Re: MikeHuntShrooms]
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Weed doesn't kill brain cells. Your thinking will be hazy, after about a month the haze will be cleared and you'll be normal


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Re: When your brain cells are killed from smoking alot of weed.. [Re: Gorian]
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"Weed doesn't kill brain cells. Your thinking will be hazy, after about a month the haze will be cleared and you'll be normal"

I find that to be bull as well personally.

Becase I follow a pretty strict diet , I exercise , and I read play guitar etc which both increase mental activity and help keep you sharp and I am fine, and when I dont have cannabis for days I am just not high, and I dont stumble through a fog for a week without cannabis.

I think all this weed will make you stupid shit is from people with poor deit anmd lifestlye and the wonder why they feel dumb and lazy all the time, well its not the cannabis!, put down the big mac get off the couch and go for a HARD bike ride, and then smoke a fattie. :smile:

Cannabis can make you sleepy in large ammounts but not stupid. :smile:


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Re: When your brain cells are killed from smoking alot of weed.. [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
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this whole "weed kills brain cells" is based on two stupid studies done in the sixties that has long since been shown to have no relevance to the average potsmoker. However this didn't stop programs like DARE from trying (and apparently succeding) to hammer this misinformation into your head.

Basically the study showed that brain cells in a petri dish were killed when exposed to EXTREMELY large amounts of THC, more than you could possibly ingest through smoking, so obviously this has no relevance.

Also, there was another study where they hooked monkeys up to gas masks and basically force fed them marijuana smoke for over an hour. These monkeys showed significant amounts of brain damage, but this has nothing to do with marijauna. The inhalation of any sort of smoke for over an hour will cause this because of the carbon monoxide found in all smoke, but since it was a gov't funded study, it was hailed as proof of the evils of marijauna and is STILL cited today by gov't antidrug groups.

Too top it all of since there is an unofficial ban on marijuana research in the US, groups that want to refute these findings cannot, unless they travel to another country.

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Re: When your brain cells are killed from smoking alot of we [Re: Gorian]
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I smoked from age 11 to the point I joined the US Military at age 18.

After a couple months of regular sleep, nutritious(sp) and regularly schedualed meals and exercise I had no short term mem loss or that burn out feeling I had prior to bootcamp.

And this is coming from a guy that failed daily operation 'golden flow'(piss tests) for 13 weeks.................  they searched my barracks and possesions constantly looking for marijuana as they were sure I must have been smoking in bootcamp.

So imho...........

after a few weeks of clean living and exercise short term mem returns but there is no corralation beteween the time it takes for someone to test clean and feel clean :laugh:

BTW.... best site on the net for Marijuana is Overgrow
http://www.overgrow.com/edge/index.php

Edited by Ono_Nadagin (01/02/04 02:26 AM)

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Re: When your brain cells are killed from smoking alot of we [Re: Ono_Nadagin]
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I heard of another monkey study that showed that cannabis shrunk braincells when monkeys were administered one joint a day for a period of about six months.

Dont forget that cannabis is a depressant as well as a mild psychadlic, you dont just have the THC's effects to worry about.

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Re: When your brain cells are killed from smoking alot of we [Re: Oook]
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Dude, you only need two brain cells. And even so, they fight all day anyway! :crazy:


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Re: When your brain cells are killed from smoking alot of we [Re: daba]
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http://www.newscientist.com/hottopics/marijuana/


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Re: When your brain cells are killed from smoking alot of weed.. [Re: MikeHuntShrooms]
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who says smoking weed kills brain cells?


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Re: When your brain cells are killed from smoking alot of weed.. [Re: Strumpling]
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lots of people, it's largely a myth.

Lots of things kill brain cells, your own brain kills brain cells from time to time, and it also happened a lot when you were a baby.


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Re: When your brain cells are killed from smoking alot of weed.. [Re: flow]
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Psillocybeinzz, right on brotha!

Fight for reason! If 10% of the US's potsmokers would join NORML, we would be the largest interest group in the nation!



It's a worthy cause!


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Re: When your brain cells are killed from smoking alot of weed.. [Re: SlapnutRob]
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I am canadian bt yes ignorance is always smashed by fact, its just depends on wether or not the person looking at the facts is smart enough to make sense of it all, like say for example how american corporations are FUCKING the workers but I would be called an asshole down there by some of the more retarded right wing rednecks, like I said I am canadian. :smile:

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Re: When your brain cells are killed from smoking alot of weed.. [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
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tool owns me :laugh:


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Re: When your brain cells are killed from smoking alot of weed.. [Re: TheSlapnCapn]
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Quote:
TheSlapnCapn said:less demand = more supply for me :smile:


Not true bro. More demand in the long term means more and cheaper product. Just look at new technology, once a new product markets, it's usually very expensive. When more people start using it, it gets cheaper all the time.
This is because when the demand it high the product will get more expensive in the short term. Entrepeneurs see that a product gets high prices so they set up big production lines. Then the goods get produced in ever higher quantaties. With big production lines effeciancy goes up and price goes down. Also when the market is flooded with new produce the supply gets higher or even higher than the demand, and prices drop again.
At least this is what high school economics taught me :smile:

Smoking with tabacco will partly sharpen your brain. Nicotine makes your brain work quicker. Source

Also this:
Cannabinol helps against brain trauma


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Re: When your brain cells are killed from smoking alot of weed.. [Re: SpecialEd]
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SpecialEd said:
smoking stimulates your cells



So does anything else you put in your body.


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