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Your Brain On Shrooms ??
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Hey I once heard that magic mushrooms make your brain bleed and thats why  you see shit, is this true ? I was also wondering what are the physical and chemical effects of psilocybin cubensis on your brain, and what extent of psychological damage do mushrooms cause on your brain....

Thank you,
Your input is appreciated....
:smirk: 

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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: Natas]
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no..............the chemicals in mushrooms replace certain neurotransmitters in your brain, making you trip....and psilocybin cubensis is just a species of mushrooms...if your brain started bleeding, you would most likely die.

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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: Natas]
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The only thing that makes my brain bleed, is keep seeing this question 'do shrooms make your brain bleed?'  :grin:

No, they don't.


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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: greenhaze]
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I know that psilocybin cubensis is a mushroom species what I meant to say was "psilocybin"... sorry about that...

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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: Natas]
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why don't you do some research instead of helping to spread stupid-ass rumors like this?


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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: Strumpling]
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amen :grin: 


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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: Natas]
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yes, this rumor is true.
The blood flowing down the back of your eyes is what makes you see things that aren't there, and the scabs forming on your brain is what makes you hear things that aren't there and gives you changed perception.
Just look below my name!

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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: Brugman]
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oh. oh ok nevermind. looks like you were right. eeeww I THOUGHT I smelled blood..


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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: Strumpling]
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All that I am saying is that "I once heard it" and it was from someone whom I trust, I am in no way trying to validate that rumor in any way shape or form. I just wanted some factual evidence that could prove that mushrooms do not make your brain bleed. I could not find any of this on erowid.com, or the shroomery.com... That is all I am saying plain and simple.

Edited by Natas (11/26/02 07:03 PM)

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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: Natas]
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yes ok. ok you are a good person with good intentions. My apologies. Have fun.


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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: Natas]
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I spend a great deal of my freetime researching mushrooms and psychedellics and people always come to me and ask me questions about the subject. I have been asked a couple times "what are some of the negative effects of mushrooms", and I havent really been able to give an answer, So I would go and search for one and to this day I cant find any negative side effects really. that tells me that there really aint shit to worry about.

What im tryin to say is that I can understand this person askin us these questions because the only negative side effects he can find are rumors and propaganda.


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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: Natas]
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i hear that, after close to 20 years of use and after four years of college where the majority of my research has been on psychedelics i have come to the conclusion there some of the safest drugs we have pysiologicaly. they can cause psychological disturbances when used wrong. the potential of these drugs for treating certain forms of mental illness and addiction is vast.i`m glad that M.A.P.S. has got the FDA to pass research protocols. the first study at U of Arizona just started with useing psilocybin to treat OCD. the lsd study at johns hoppkins has also been passed.hopefully the political stigma that is attached to these drugs will
be replaced by the truth, that used right they are healers :cool:



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Edited by chinacat72 (11/27/02 04:42 AM)

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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: chinacat72]
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Yeah in my health class they have covered all the negitive effects of all the drugs, but they seemed to have skiped mushrooms for some weird reason :cool:. That has made me conclude that they dont have shit on mushrooms AND if they cant even find somthing wrong with them they have to be fine considering they blow everything out of propotion so eat away! LONG LIVE THE SHROOM! :grin:


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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: PoolShark]
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LONG LIVE THE SHROOM!!!!!!! indeed my friend :smile:


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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: Strumpling]
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if i ever become president(hahaha) i will make it mandatory that you have to eat shrooms to pass health class :cool: 


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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: chinacat72]
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That gets my vote :smile:


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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: chinacat72]
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There should be a modern religion that people can join where they can legally take shrooms in the USA for religious purposes. I wonder how one would go about doing that. Since the native americans can do it with peyote other people should be able to do it within reason at least.


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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: ShamanSean]
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hell ya,
this country was founded so people could practise there religous faith in whatever form they choose. i definately consider mushrooms my spiritual practice as many of you do. it seems denying us this right violates are constitutional rights.
we need to turn some lawyers on and get are rights that were promised in the constitution given back to us. :laugh: 


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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: chinacat72]
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I was thinking of trying to get something like this going in Canada, I believe the biggest hurdle to go over would be gaining recognition as instead of a mushroom 'cult' it would be a mushroom 'church' - nevermind any connotations between the word church and the current status quo of churches in the world.

Cult's are 'bad' things, and being recognized as a 'church' gives it a sound of legitimacy, which would be in short supply given the current public stance on mushroom consumption.

I've come across this site, but I'm having trouble wading my way through it.
http://www.thefane.org/


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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: Natas]
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Shrooms may not cause your brain to bleed,thats a myth. They do however destroy your kidneys. After youve done shrooms about 30 times youll need a kidney transplant, I should know ive had 4 kidney replacements in the last year!!

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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: Natas]
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the biggest difference between a mushroom church and a catholic church is our sacrament would actualy work. i think this is why the catholics stomped out the mushroom cults and peyote tribes is because who needs a priest or a bible when you got a direct channel to higher conciosness



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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: Brugman]
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Its not true. At all, actually.

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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: Blu Spore]
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Youre full of shit as well.

This board is going to hell fast.

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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: Blu Spore]
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immaculates right you are full of shit. dam you for spreading dangerous lies like that.
hopefully no younger more inexperianced psychonaut took your bullshit as truthful
do you work for the dea, becuase that sure sounds like some scare tactic they would use. tell asa his shit don`t fly here :mad: 


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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: Blu Spore]
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yeah what the hell are you guys trying to do?


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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: Strumpling]
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Shrooms do not make your brain bleed, they work by haveing the active chemicles lock into a specific receptor site 5-htp and then inhibit the 5-htp neurotransmitter from entering its receptor. This causes the neuron to start fireing randomly which then causes you to trip.


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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: EvilGir]
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You fucking ass. They don't cause kidney damage you fool!!! They cause lung collapse! Don't you remember Jimmy back in '72?

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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: EvilGir]
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Shrooms do not make your brain bleed, they work by haveing the active chemicles lock into a specific receptor site 5-htp and then inhibit the 5-htp neurotransmitter from entering its receptor. This causes the neuron to start fireing randomly which then causes you to trip.

Ok as far as it goes but prozac does exactly the same thing and doesn't make you trip. How psilocybin does what it does really isn't understood at all. It's something to do with serotonin is about all we know - and that doesn't explain anything.


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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: chinacat72]
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shut up. If someone dumb enough to believe that they dont deserve to be enlightened by magic mushrooms.

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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: Blu Spore]
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alot of young uniformed people come to this site looking for information that they can`t get anywhere else. your post could have been taken serously by such a person. so your the one who needs to shut up :mad: 


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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: Natas]
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www.erowid.com
and
www.lycaeum.org

Are the best unbiased source for drug information on the net.
These are the most comprehensive drug sites available.
They have information on just about every known drug under the sun.
Use them.


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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: chinacat72]
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yes I will shut up. I guess the Gen question forum was not the right place to make up stupid bullshit. Im in enough trouble already.

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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: Blu Spore]
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i apologise for my hostility


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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: Blu Spore]
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Hey man, I thought what you said was pretty funny.

China- you have a point to be pissed at the spread of misinformation and I feel the same way, but in his post it was pretty clear to me that he was joking, after all he's said he's had 4 kidney transplants so far this year, I mean if some newbie read that and believed it, then they don't deserve to be enlightened.  And how come you didn't give Brugman shit, he did the same thing.  Oh well, whatcha gonna do?    :smirk:


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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: Skikid16]
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young misinformed people are gullable. that doesn`t mean they don`t deserve enlightenment, and we are not the ones to determin that.we provide info so people can make choices based on knowlege.
that said this thread was a joke from the begining. i hate rumers like this
i felt the kidney thing could have been taken serously.
i didn`t know it was a joke like brugmans
i have apologised for my hostility ,but we all must remember that people will ask dumb questions before they start to learn the facts
the worms comment is quite funny now that i have smoked and read it for what it was a joke. but the person who started this thread could have taken it serously since we can see from her post she is contaminated with misinfo
but what is done is done and i again apologise for my hostility :cool: 


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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: chinacat72]
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The only thing that makes your brain bleed is the baseball bat I'll hit you with if you keeping spreading these baseless rumors.

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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: chinacat72]
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I agree, and glad to hear you got some sense and smoked some herb :laugh:


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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: Anonymous]
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I'm confused, what rumors did china spread?


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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: Skikid16]
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i think he was posting to the forum and just used my reply key
if not further explanation is nessicary


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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: chinacat72]
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I like how you said "The worms comment was quite funny".  Just to let you know im not actually a worm in real life :grin: 

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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: chinacat72]
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Yeah man we all know that worms can't type in ENGLISH... pfff


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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: Blu Spore]
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it`s all good :smile: :smile: :smile: 


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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: chinacat72]
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Ok as far as it goes but prozac does exactly the same thing


I was under the impression that prozac was an SSRI which means that it actually inhibits serotonin from leaving it receptor site longer than it should.


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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: Natas]
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go smoke some shrooms :laugh:


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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: EvilGir]
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regardless...... just because these two molecules may plug into the same receptor sites (i don't even know if this is true..) doesn't mean thier effects will be even remotely close to eachother


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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: Strumpling]
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From what I understand (I could be wrong), SSRI's plug into the pre -synaptic serotonin sights and block the reuptake ,causing more serotonin to be available to the post -synaptic serotonin receptors,and LSD and Psilocybin plug into the post-synaptic receptors of a subtype of serotonin (the 5-HT2) and act as partial agonists and actually block some serotonin. In certain ways they are somewhat alike and in other ways totally different. They both act primarily on serotonin,but do it by different mechanisms and are totally different types of drugs. Serotonin can be inhibitory(usually) or excitory depending on the subtype and what part of the brain its in.
I've read some interesting things about dreams and serotonin. During REM sleep,some neurologists speculate that there is huge drop in serotonin when heavy dreaming starts.Some people believe that dreams let you access your subconscious. Some people also believe that the psychedelic experience lets you access your subconscious.If you put both together,tripping might be kind of like a "waking dream".



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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: monoamine]
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Here's what I mean though:

Seratonin plugs into these receptors and... "does something" there.

These other molecules which plug in there "do something" completely different though :smile:


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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: DreaMaTrix]
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The only thing that makes my brain bleed, is keep seeing this question 'do shrooms make your brain bleed?'

Damn! You had to do it. *runs to get a tournaquet*



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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: Swami]
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aaaaahhhhh you posted that question AGAIN?! *follows swami*


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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: Strumpling]
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You have to be one dumb bastard to believe that psychedelics cause your brain to bleed. I remember hearing that garbage when I was about 10,when I believed smoking weed kills brain cells, and thinking "bullshit". Any amount of common sense would tell you that your brain bleeding would cause death,coma, or at least severe retardation.
I remember hearing this moronic crock of shit in high school and the people that would say it would be those teenybopper,MTV watching cocksmokers that dropped acid once or twice because it was "cool". You know,the kind of people that shouldn't go within ten miles of any mind altering drugs.
"Yeah man,I used to know this guy that ran from the cops with a sheet of acid taped to (insert random body part here) and it mixed with his sweat and killed him."


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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: Blu Spore]
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" After youve done shrooms about 30 times youll need a kidney transplant, I should know ive had 4 kidney replacements in the last year!! "

What are you talking about!!! If this were true half thepeople in here would have had kidney transplants!


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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: LOPHO.MP]
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I think he was joking...


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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: LOPHO.MP]
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What are you talking about!!! If this were true half thepeople in here would have had kidney transplants!

At Kidneys "R" Us, they punch your card and you get every fifth kidney for free!




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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: monoamine]
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So you're telling me you've never seen a "dumb bastard" here?


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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: LOPHO.MP]
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your a bit late with that comment aren't you? :

this is your brain on shrooms



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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: Blu Spore]
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of course i'm late....

i'm late with every comment - must be all this blood running out of my brain from eating mushrooms.


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Re: Your Brain On Shrooms ?? [Re: Strumpling]
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In reply to:
So you're telling me you've never seen a "dumb bastard" here?



Yes,but the dumb bastard to semi-intelligent person ratio is a bit lower on the Shroomery compared to the world at large (of course,IMHO).


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