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Offlineearlyriser
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Kills Brain Cells?
    #308710 - 05/04/01 02:19 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

Hey Guys,

My girlfriend seems to think that shrooms kill brain cells. Is this true?



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Re: Kills Brain Cells? [Re: earlyriser]
    #308713 - 05/04/01 02:21 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

your girlfriend has been informed by the fuckers at DARE--i can tell the "style" of lying...if it killed brain cells i should be stupid by now and many people shouldn't have any left. it doesn't do anything physically to your body except give you slight nausea in the beginning which goes away quite quickly...its actually one of the safest drugs when used in moderation

We're all mad here...


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Re: Kills Brain Cells? [Re: HB]
    #308721 - 05/04/01 02:28 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

yeah dude, i know. she seems to be pretty well worked on by the dare assholes. i have a lot of work to do. She claims to not be anti-drug, but i can't even get any weed in her........



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Re: Kills Brain Cells? [Re: earlyriser]
    #308724 - 05/04/01 02:29 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

Does anybody know of any research i can show her?



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Re: Kills Brain Cells? [Re: earlyriser]
    #308733 - 05/04/01 02:46 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

well at the moment i cant really remember any specific sites about it but if this helps: i trip and i still have an A- average, is that good enough evidence? just have her read up on shrooms on sites such as the shroomery, erowid.org, and lycaeum.org....dont even let her get near sites like DARE and shit like that -- the best of luck to you

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Re: Kills Brain Cells? [Re: earlyriser]
    #308758 - 05/04/01 03:14 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

www.erowid.com

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Re: Kills Brain Cells? [Re: HB]
    #308779 - 05/04/01 03:58 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

D.A.R.E.. erm, do they even have information on drugs on their site? I went there in curiousity, and left in puzzlement. It looks like a 12 year old made the site, and I couldn't find any information on drugs. Only information I found was for paranoid parents to make themselves more paranoid by reading..

Hydro has spoken!
Please! Tell me about the fucking golf shoes!


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Re: Kills Brain Cells? [Re: Hydro]
    #308856 - 05/04/01 05:43 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

There is absolutely zero evidence that shrooms are neurotoxic.



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Re: Kills Brain Cells? [Re: earlyriser]
    #308859 - 05/04/01 05:47 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

It changes the signaling of your recepters in your Neural Net Brain Thingy;)



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Re: Kills Brain Cells? [Re: earlyriser]
    #308872 - 05/04/01 06:01 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

Herbs have tradtionaly been used as medicines. The active ingredients in herbs are considered antagonists meaning they agitate or increase blood flow to certain areas depending on what herb is being used and how close in chemical structure the chemicals are to those already found in the body. Like traditional Ginseng increases
blood flow to liver thus increasing oxygen intake to area ,effecting blood sugar and energy production. It just so happens that the good'ol smurfs antagonise the pineal gland's
serotonin receptors. Not to say that most herbs don't function
in more than one way. I'm not an herbal guru but I've read and used my fare share of herbs. Hope that helps.



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Re: Kills Brain Cells? [Re: earlyriser]
    #654090 - 05/31/02 01:32 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

I think it's funny that people think shrooms could kill brain cells.
I mean, just look at most of the people on this site. I don't know about you, but they are some of the most articulate and well educated people i've ever had the privelege of talking to. Shrooms don't make you stupid...

-RebelSteve


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Re: Kills Brain Cells? [Re: RebelSteve33]
    #654785 - 05/31/02 11:15 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Me agree with your statement, me want more shrooms, more is good, shrooms makes lobo smaaart, shrooms and lobo friends, unga unga!


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Re: Kills Brain Cells? [Re: LOBO]
    #654905 - 05/31/02 01:11 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

yeah agreed. I'm National Merit Scholar, salutorian, going to college and acknowledged as a smart kid by most at my school. So yeah, only big risks are psychological.


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Re: Kills Brain Cells? [Re: Hydro]
    #655405 - 05/31/02 05:45 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

I went there too, they had a section describing the effects of "club drugs" but they have no mushy info.

Odly enough i found this picture there:


DARE America President and Founding Director Glenn Levant was one of 11,500 torchbearers to carry the Olympic flame in its travels across the United States and into Salt Lake City for the opening ceremonies of the winter games.




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Re: Kills Brain Cells? [Re: PsillyKat]
    #655981 - 05/31/02 10:47 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Glenn Levant :
What a fucking DICK !!!

Hey HYDRO , I found out about the golf shoes only your not here to listen where have you gone ,
"Aah Im gonna miss that guy "

And I still cant beleive they were feeding alcohol to the fucking Reptiles .

On a slighty more relevant note I have been shrooming for almost four years now including five times this year and have an I.Q. of 186 .


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Re: Kills Brain Cells? [Re: MPG]
    #656034 - 05/31/02 11:19 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

mushrooms are a non-specific seritonin receptor agonist, not antagonist. they excite receptors all throughout the brain and body, not just the pineal gland or whatnot.


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Re: Kills Brain Cells? [Re: earlyriser]
    #729552 - 07/08/02 12:21 AM (20 years, 3 months ago)

interestingly most of the genius that i know do psychedelic drugs
hmmm is that to make them more stupid so that they can exist in society
or understand and read enough to make an intellignet decision
and experience states that they know are there but others fear


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Re: Kills Brain Cells? [Re: llib]
    #729727 - 07/08/02 01:36 AM (20 years, 3 months ago)

I've counted my brain cells before and after every trip, and it turns out the only ones I ended up loosing were because of the things I did while tripping.


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Re: Kills Brain Cells? [Re: SillyHead]
    #730013 - 07/08/02 03:40 AM (20 years, 3 months ago)

well if shrooms don't kill brain cells which i already knew, what about marijuana, i have heard both, and i have read alot but nothing just flat out says the answer.


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Re: Kills Brain Cells? [Re: shroominsmurf]
    #730217 - 07/08/02 05:12 AM (20 years, 3 months ago)

People need to realize that even if things kill brain cells it doesnt matter! You have enough brain cells for about 6 life times. besides even sneezing kills brain cells. In my opinion, people just say pot kills brain cell so some will stop smoking it.


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Re: Kills Brain Cells? [Re: earlyriser]
    #730230 - 07/08/02 05:19 AM (20 years, 3 months ago)

Dose her with 2 grams of EQ's - She'll change her mind in 2 hours!


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Re: Kills Brain Cells? [Re: shroominsmurf]
    #730365 - 07/08/02 07:16 AM (20 years, 3 months ago)

As far as i am aware no one flat out knows the answer. The (cannabinoid) receptor(s), which the drug(s) in marijuana act on to cause their effects, are almost certainly (i think actually definitely) naturally (i.e. in a normal functioning brain minus weed ) involved in the regulating whether certain brain cells survive or die. But this regulation is part of a normal functioning brain-> some (brain) cells just have to die ->maybe you might have heard of apoptosis, or programmed cell death?

So you can maybe see that it is certainly concievable that smoking cannabis would 'kill brain cells'. However, one interesting thing i read was that THC might have its apparent anti-lung cancer effect by encouraging cells which are in danger of becoming cancerous/ nasty to die. So, although there is a possibility that THC etc... might cause brain cells to die, it *might* only be speeding up a natural process, and *might* be actually having a protective effect by killing potentially dangerous cells.

But there might have been important revelations since the last time i read on this subject so this is only the state of affairs as far as i am aware


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Re: Kills Brain Cells? [Re: shroominsmurf]
    #730371 - 07/08/02 07:28 AM (20 years, 3 months ago)

marijuana kills brain cells, so does many other drugs. However most drugs don't kill enough brain cells to make any noticable problems. Alchohol kills more brain cells than lots of other drugs.


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Re: Kills Brain Cells? [Re: Earth_Droid]
    #731517 - 07/08/02 09:20 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

but more serious problems could concievably arise if a drug selectively killed off cells in a particular area rather than just generally fleecing the brain of a few 1000 random cells (like alcohol), especially if the particular brain region was quite small.
So the total numbers of cells that a drug kills off isn't necessarily an accurate guide to how much percievable damage there will be.


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