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OfflineGleepGlop20
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whats all this brain chemistry?
    #1001112 - 10/28/02 10:13 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

i always hear people asking: 'hey, what was THAT all about?'

and people always answer: 'hmm, musta changed your brain chemistry'

ive speculated about this myself often, and im wondering if this idea of altering of someone's fundamental 'brain chemistry' is based in any fact. what does this mean? why would something like acid alter it so the next time you do some drug you dont react the same way, and why wouldnt some normal medication not alter your chemistry?

so is this measurable in any way?

for example, ive taken my share of medication throughout my life, but i would never have had cause to fear one day that my brain chemistry was permanently altered. then one day i smoke some weed while on a couple medications, i never smoke weed the same way again, and i think the combination 'altered my brain chemistry'....

any thoughts?


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Re: whats all this brain chemistry? [Re: GleepGlop20]
    #1001156 - 10/28/02 10:30 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

this question has answers, if you are familiar with neurotransmitters (dopamine, serotonin, ephinephrine, and hundreds more) drugs usually cause an increase or decrease in the chemicals by blocking the receptor or mimicing the properties of a neurotransmitter. so, for example if you have lsd in your brain, which is sort of like fake serotonin (i dont know too much about this, and little is known about pharmacology of hallucinogens). When your brain senses lots of serotonin , it will decrease natural production. When the drug wears off, there is changed brain chemistry, ie the amount and behavior of neurochemicals are not the same as before. I gave a more complicated example, but read the last sentence, that is my point and the answer.
Is it measurable.. yes but not with scientific equiptment, psychiatrists and psychologists can tell in some cases if the person has changed brain chemistry. If one is depressed, they may not have enough serotonin, dopamine, or norephinephrine. Depression, anxiety, schitzophrenia, manic depression, serotonin syndrome are all chemical imbalance disorders. That doesnt mean one can help themselves with therapy or self help.


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Re: whats all this brain chemistry? [Re: GleepGlop20]
    #1001791 - 10/29/02 01:00 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

In reply to:

then one day i smoke some weed while on a couple medications, i never smoke weed the same way again, and i think the combination 'altered my brain chemistry





A strong psycological experience can "color" the way you think in similar,future instances. If you had a really bad experience mixing weed and medications,then future instances when you smoke weed it might remind you of the bad time you had on the mix (whether subconsiously or not) and trigger old feelings. I think this is called "psycological conditioning". It probably has nothing to do with permanently altered brain chemistry. (I would like to point out that all your experiences probably can effect your brain chemistry in more general ways than a specific drug effect,but this is beyond the the scope of what I'm writing.) This is the most likely reason why people get "flashbacks" from psychedelic drugs.

My advice to you is to stop smoking weed for a little while if you're having bad experiences with it. The more you do it now, the harder it'll be to "recondition" your mind and you might never get anything postive out of weed smoking again.


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Re: whats all this brain chemistry? [Re: monoamine]
    #1002699 - 10/29/02 10:28 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

yes, im kind of caught between the thinking that i just need to alter my state of mind about this stuff, and the idea that i just need specific conditions to enjoy things. different people have different preferred conditions for taking drugs, and some people just react badly... i just havent found the right thing to get rid of the bad reactions, but thats another thread...


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    #1002731 - 10/29/02 10:50 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: whats all this brain chemistry? [Re: Galvie_Flu]
    #1004488 - 10/29/02 11:00 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

You couldn't have confused me more.


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Re: whats all this brain chemistry? [Re: Poopman]
    #1005310 - 10/30/02 08:02 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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strong psycological experience can "color" the way you think in similar,future instances. If you had a really bad experience mixing weed and medications,then future instances when you smoke weed it might remind you of the bad time you had on the mix (whether subconsiously or not) and trigger old feelings. I think this is called "psycological conditioning"




This is basicaly a flashbacks, although it dosent have to happen when using drugs, it could be your listening to some music on the radio when you have a car crash killing your family, listening toi that tune from then on would cause serious psychlogical problem.

The action of lsd does mimic the brains neurotransmitters seratonin (5-ht) which have specific receptor sites that they are able to lock into. Sorta like a lock and key action. When the lsd locks into this receptor site it then inhibits the serotonine receptors in the brain. These are usualy responsable for the regulation of the other serotonin  synapses which is the space between neurons. So when this happens the previously regulated neurons are allowed fire off much faster.

Because it is the serotonin receptors are what regulate your perception increasing there hyperactivity causes an altered state. So basicaly they over clock your brain so you better get a good heat sink. :grin:. There is more than one type of seratonine but most psychedelics are usualy specific to only affect the 5-ht sites.







 


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