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InvisibleSwami
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Mushrooms and Devolution
    #2164226 - 12/06/03 02:45 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

Due to the enormous number of posts filled with egregious factual errors, weak or non-existent logic, and just plain tripe; I am forced to draw one of the following conclusions:

People drawn to mushrooms are (in general):

1. intellectually inferior.

2. lazy, sloppy and undisciplined.

3. representative of a general downward slope.

4. were OK once, but are now fucked up by drug abuse.

5. escape artists and dreamers with no real life.

Note: this post does not refer to you, but the other guy. :smile:   


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Re: Mushrooms and Devolution [Re: Swami]
    #2164254 - 12/06/03 02:58 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

1. Swami always holding his intellect much higher then others.
2. Lazy, sloppy and undisciplined.
3. Reminds me of Tool.
4. Possibility.
5. Choices.


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Re: Mushrooms and Devolution [Re: Swami]
    #2164268 - 12/06/03 03:08 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

Option # 6. I AM SIR TOKES ALOT!

No, seriously *I* am Spartacus.


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Re: Mushrooms and Devolution [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
    #2164291 - 12/06/03 03:25 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

My guess is that some do too much mushrooms and barely any work sober, working on the road to higher consciousness.... if I get lazy, I usually don't post, as my point will not be made clear enough.

Mushrooms and marijuana are tools, momentarily turbo boosts... after you run out of energy in the race, you can't just keep hitting the turbo button and expect for you to win or even move...
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Re: Mushrooms and Devolution [Re: Swami]
    #2164332 - 12/06/03 03:41 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

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2. lazy, sloppy and undisciplined.

3. representative of a general downward slope.

4. were OK once, but are now fucked up by drug abuse.

5. escape artists and dreamers with no real life.




You just described a whole lot of people in the general populace.

I think people that are drawn to shrooms are basically like everyone else.


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Re: Mushrooms and Devolution [Re: sirreal]
    #2164345 - 12/06/03 03:50 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

I think people that are drawn to shrooms are basically like everyone else.

Probably, yet the claim is that new ways of thinking and being are shown to the entheogenic traveller. I see NO outward manifestation of such change, evolutionary or otherwise.


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Re: Mushrooms and Devolution [Re: sirreal]
    #2164348 - 12/06/03 03:52 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

I agree with Sirreal.


Edited by Snooganator (12/06/03 03:53 PM)


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Re: Mushrooms and Devolution [Re: Swami]
    #2164352 - 12/06/03 03:55 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

Quote:

Swami said:
Probably, yet the claim is that new ways of thinking and being are shown to the entheogenic traveller. I see NO outward manifestation of such change, evolutionary or otherwise. 




Well, there are some, no doubt. The choice few. I think this comes down to like the lazy thing you mentioned, or once the drug wears off, they find themselves letting themselves sink right back into their normal mindset... change isn't easy, and this makes people give up.

Fight for the right! :grin:
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Re: Mushrooms and Devolution [Re: Swami]
    #2164360 - 12/06/03 04:00 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

Quote:

yet the claim is that new ways of thinking and being are shown to the entheogenic traveller. I see NO outward manifestation of such change, evolutionary or otherwise.





Right idea in the wrong minds, maybe?

When you take ignorant people and give them mind-altering substances you do not get intelligence. You get wierdness, and altered ignorance.


Ignorant people on shrooms= mind altered ignorance.




***I am not calling anyone ignorant***



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Re: Mushrooms and Devolution [Re: fireworks_god]
    #2164380 - 12/06/03 04:07 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

I belive that people drawn to mushrooms or at least growing mushrooms are
1. do it them selfers. (so not lazy)
2. scientists that dont fit into the going to school thing.
3. methodical
4. obsesive compolsive (washing hands 20 times a day)
5. Hey at least mushrooms isnt crack or dope.
6. I see a downward slope being the people using chemicals not just drugs but chems in general


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Re: Mushrooms and Devolution [Re: ]
    #2164393 - 12/06/03 04:12 PM (13 years, 3 days ago)

Take a person that is normaly maybe not a intelectual person and give them mushrooms you get a person having a good time.
Take a person that thinks of things other than whats in there ordinary world and give the mushrooms I think you get an expanded perception into a lot of things.
I cant spell nor do I have a good comand of the english languge. So You could classify me as you will.


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Re: Mushrooms and Devolution [Re: ]
    #2164509 - 12/06/03 05:12 PM (13 years, 3 days ago)

some people have a harder time than others understanding the change in perspective that entheogens (can) cause. some people ignore it. some explore it. exploration of conciousness will lead to some sort of discovery, some sort of growth. and when this begins to gather momentum and affect a mass scale, we'll have moved up to a new reality.


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Re: Mushrooms and Devolution [Re: Viaggio]
    #2164746 - 12/06/03 06:49 PM (13 years, 3 days ago)

I guess millions of trippers in the 60s was not a "mass scale".


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Re: Mushrooms and Devolution [Re: Swami]
    #2164802 - 12/06/03 07:06 PM (13 years, 3 days ago)

"I guess millions of trippers in the 60s was not a 'mass scale'."

that was only 4 decades ago. the 60s may have been some sort of spike in our developement, but to bring us to a new reality? that's not the mass scale i had in mind...more like billions. so if the momentum continues, then it's mostly a matter of time.


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Re: Mushrooms and Devolution [Re: Swami]
    #2164835 - 12/06/03 07:19 PM (13 years, 3 days ago)

I guess millions of trippers in the 60s was not a "mass scale".

Yeah, there sure wasn't much change in the sixties.


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Re: Mushrooms and Devolution [Re: Swami]
    #2164954 - 12/06/03 08:35 PM (13 years, 3 days ago)

Quote:

People drawn to mushrooms are (in general):

1. intellectually inferior.

2. lazy, sloppy and undisciplined.

3. representative of a general downward slope.

4. were OK once, but are now fucked up by drug abuse.

5. escape artists and dreamers with no real life.





which category are you in, swami?


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Re: Mushrooms and Devolution [Re: Swami]
    #2164956 - 12/06/03 08:36 PM (13 years, 3 days ago)

*winces*

What's with the sweeping generalization, Swami?

Aldous Huxley?
Tim Leary?


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Re: Mushrooms and Devolution [Re: mr crisper]
    #2164957 - 12/06/03 08:37 PM (13 years, 3 days ago)

I am in 2, 4 & 5. :wink: 


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Re: Mushrooms and Devolution [Re: Jellric]
    #2164964 - 12/06/03 08:41 PM (13 years, 3 days ago)

Yeah, there sure wasn't much change in the sixties.

A temporary change, but where did it lead on an evolutionary / societal level?

Here we are again in Iraq losing American lives as well as Iraqi citizens, pouring in billions of dollars better spent on constructive endeavors, with no end in sight. Looks like Vietnam all over again to me.

What about the drug war? Worse than ever. Corporate fraud? An all time high. On and on.



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Re: Mushrooms and Devolution [Re: trendal]
    #2164978 - 12/06/03 08:52 PM (13 years, 3 days ago)

What's with the sweeping generalization, Swami?

I could give hundreds of examples, but don't have the time.

My nonsensemeter has been pegged off the scale here lately. I am not talking humor, but beliefs in fantastical things with no foundation.

People making posts without even reading them over once to see if they are coherent, nor even doing basic research on the subject matter.

Increased awareness is NOT congruent with sloppy thinking and presentation. Meditation is not a part time thing, but an integral part of the traveller's life.


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