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InvisibleMycomancer
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10x potency psilocybin powder
    #2125674 - 11/20/03 07:26 PM (13 years, 17 days ago)

I found this a while back on a newsgroup, and I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with the method below, is the chemistry actually accurate, and does it hold up to its claim of increasing mushroom potency 10x? Thanks,

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Subject: Re: Make Gelltabs from dried shroms...
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Date: 2003-01-10 04:50:32 PST


A useful approach is to soak powdered mushrooms in
ethanol (everclear, vodka) overnight, filter out the
pulp (squeeze it in t-shirt). Do this two times for
each amount of powdered mushrooms. Then discard the
pulp, save the liquid.

Now dissolve some vitamin C in the smallest possible
amount of water (0.1 gram vitC for each gram of
mushroom pulp)

Mix the alcoholic mushroom extract with the vit-C
water, evaporate to dryness. in a shallow dish.

The resulting powder is 10x the potency of the
mushrooms and can be put in gellcaps. It is also very
soluble in drinkable liquids. I wouldn't put it into
gelcaps since they dissolve more slowly compared to
the mushrooms or the ascorbate powder. They slow down
the trip.

The name of this powder, which is a salt, is
'psilocybin ascorbate' and it is probably the most
stable form of psilocybin.

(OK- it is psilocybin ascorbate cut with ascorbic
acid)

Yachaj





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Re: 10x potency psilocybin powder [Re: Mycomancer]
    #2125729 - 11/20/03 08:05 PM (13 years, 17 days ago)

Sounds fake to me...


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Re: 10x potency psilocybin powder [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #2125756 - 11/20/03 08:24 PM (13 years, 17 days ago)

Yeah, i'm a bit sceptikal about it too, hence the post, but this Yachaj guy was pretty knowledgable in his other posts on the group. Just wanted to throw it at you guys(especially the chemists) to see what ya think about it. Trying to be optimisitic. Any reason to see why it would or wouldn't work?

mycomancer


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Re: 10x potency psilocybin powder [Re: Mycomancer]
    #2125905 - 11/20/03 09:21 PM (13 years, 17 days ago)

:lol:, you could get the same effects of that as taking Vitamin C with however many mushrooms you would've extracted psilocybin/psilocin from. 


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Re: 10x potency psilocybin powder [Re: Mycomancer]
    #2125931 - 11/20/03 09:32 PM (13 years, 17 days ago)

technically in theory it should work. psilocin is soluable in non-polar liquids such as ethanol and methanol ( which is better) . then the ascorbate water is added to make the psilocin a salt which should be more stable. all this is, is a short cut extraction. i don't know if it will be "10x more potent" but you will definately have to consume less material.


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Re: 10x potency psilocybin powder [Re: Infrared]
    #2126144 - 11/20/03 11:05 PM (13 years, 17 days ago)

methnanol and ethanol are iffy in there polarities (water will disslove in ethnol but so will fats ect.) hence why a bottle of everclear won't be two layers like if you mixed a polar and non-polar and you can use it to extract thc. psilocybin is soluble in polar liquids anyway, if it was non-polar soluable how would making a tea work? Anyway with that 'extract' you'll have alot more shit in it than psilocybin ascorbate cut with ascorbic acid.


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Re: 10x potency psilocybin powder [Re: Mycomancer]
    #2126718 - 11/21/03 05:57 AM (13 years, 16 days ago)

DO not put shrooms into ethanol. A chemist could use methanol to extract psilocine but the amount is not worth thee effort. in a one/eight ounce of shrooms, dried P. cubensis 3 and 1/2 grams equal 3,500 milligrams of poweder. the amount of psilocine inthose 3,500 milligrams is 15-25 milligrams a nimute amount out of 3,500 and the residue would have to be put through a seive with methanol, not ethanol and it is not worth thei rime or hassle since you could get sick uif it is not fully evaporated.

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Re: 10x potency psilocybin powder [Re: mjshroomer]
    #2127020 - 11/21/03 12:08 PM (13 years, 16 days ago)

mjshroomer,
is there anything you don't know about mushrooms?

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