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Re: Extracting Psilocin, Psilocybin [Re: mjshroomer]
    #856660 - 09/01/02 11:47 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Sure about the amination part? Since Psilocybin(e) is the phosphate ester of psilocin(e),amination isn't going to turn one into the other...


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Re: Extracting Psilocin, Psilocybin [Re: TripsAreForKids]
    #856680 - 09/01/02 11:55 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Alex - I'd say you could fit 20mg on a tab .

TripsAreForKids: Good luck - but remember, psilocyn degrades fairly easily under normal storage conditions but Psilocybin has been kept for 40 years without degradation .
So turning it all into psilocyn might not be a good idea .

I have a theoretical idea for getting Shroom drugs onto paper .
BTW there is alot more than just psilocyn and psilocybin in shrooms (pyschoactive wise) .
Basically the idea is that you extract the DRUGS into water then run the water through paper layers with enough heat to slowly evaporate the water leaving you with trip paper .
- Cos psilocyn and psilocybin wouldnt evapourate - comprende'        ? :laugh:


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Re: Extracting Psilocin, Psilocybin [Re: mjshroomer]
    #857105 - 09/01/02 03:28 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

I agree with the point of this post, which is that you're going to have fun trying to accurately measure out a dose for taking later.

The extraction process specified is a fairly general process for extraction of alkaloids from something. After recrystallization you will tend to get the dominant alkaloid in reasonably pure form and lose all the other alkaloids. The procedure specified was for producing enough material to put into an infrared specrophotometer or other instrument for determination of its physical properties. It includes a step for hydrolysis of psilocybin to psilocin, but psilocin stores less well than psilocybin. Psilocin is relatively sensitive to oxidation by the air and storing it without preventing air oxidation will result in your psilocin becoming worthless over a few months.

You would probably be better off carefully drying the mushrooms and keeping them in the freezer.


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Re: Extracting Psilocin, Psilocybin [Re: ToxicMan]
    #857546 - 09/01/02 07:09 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

I believe it or not think its a good idea - What about people who can't stand the taste of mushrooms? They could drink a tasteless liquid or drop some paper?

I for one would like that ALOT!


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Re: Extracting Psilocin, Psilocybin [Re: Addict]
    #857697 - 09/01/02 08:22 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

You have a point. The people I know who can't stand the taste would take the dried mushrooms, compress them (using fingers) into a small pellet, and swallow them like little pills. You could always powder them and use gelatin capsules. But those are the solutions I came up with first, and they have their own drawbacks. I can certainly see the appeal of having a pure substance available rather than dried mushrooms/plants.

I guess that we should just be aware of the drawbacks of whatever we choose.


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Re: Extracting Psilocin, Psilocybin [Re: Food]
    #858248 - 09/02/02 05:16 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

In reply to:

BTW there is alot more than just psilocyn and psilocybin in shrooms (pyschoactive wise) .





If you are talking about cubensis ,those 2 are about it...


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Re: Extracting Psilocin, Psilocybin [Re: aural]
    #858457 - 09/02/02 09:18 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

There are several compiounds in Psilocybian mushrooms but only four of them are psychoactive in varying degrees.

baeocystine, norbaeocystine, psilocybine and psilocine. The other trptamines area all inactive. And only psilocine is water soulable.

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Re: Extracting Psilocin, Psilocybin [Re: mjshroomer]
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