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Re: ALCOHOL EXTRACTION OF PSILOCYBIN [Re: cubeeater]
    #14479887 - 05/19/11 05:30 PM (13 years, 28 days ago)

Lol, just realized that this thread is 5 years old. I wanted to make my own, but seen this and thought I would add without reading.

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Re: ALCOHOL EXTRACTION OF PSILOCYBIN [Re: cubeeater]
    #14480070 - 05/19/11 06:09 PM (13 years, 28 days ago)

T_T  the moral of the story is that water works better than ethanol.


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Re: ALCOHOL EXTRACTION OF PSILOCYBIN [Re: cubeeater]
    #14480213 - 05/19/11 06:29 PM (13 years, 28 days ago)

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This is in my freezer. I did the Everclear extract, and put it in the freezer till my bottles got here in the mail. I then come home from a week of work out of town, to see these crystal all through my tincture. I took a spoon in dug out a small pile to smoke but I haven't had the BALLS to smoke it!!! I heard it is stronger than DMT? I will do it this Sat. probably, hopefully!

  Has anyone tried smoking the crystal? Or dosing it in any way? By the way I used 3oz's Cubensis, and Everclear.




those crystals you have are not psilocybin.

just to let you know.


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Re: ALCOHOL EXTRACTION OF PSILOCYBIN [Re: k00laid]
    #14480606 - 05/19/11 07:48 PM (13 years, 28 days ago)

If you were to attempt to ethanol "extract" mushrooms - the best you could end up with is a very potent liquid to dose from (at least 1m/1g). Main problem is oxidation during processing which could be addressed with food grade ascorbic acid (and a little EDTA for good measure). Getting crystals isn't 'doable at this point...


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Re: ALCOHOL EXTRACTION OF PSILOCYBIN [Re: Yippie]
    #14480612 - 05/19/11 07:49 PM (13 years, 28 days ago)

1 mL per 1 gram tincture is easy and efficient with ethanol. Just sayin'.


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Re: ALCOHOL EXTRACTION OF PSILOCYBIN [Re: Doc_T]
    #14480923 - 05/19/11 08:46 PM (13 years, 28 days ago)

what would be the purpose of doing it ?

I can't think of any benefits :confused:

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Re: ALCOHOL EXTRACTION OF PSILOCYBIN [Re: Zzzarathustra]
    #14480953 - 05/19/11 08:50 PM (13 years, 28 days ago)

Benefits of alcohol extraction?

Primary benefit- you don't have to eat the mushrooms!


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Re: ALCOHOL EXTRACTION OF PSILOCYBIN [Re: drr]
    #14481370 - 05/19/11 10:00 PM (13 years, 28 days ago)

I'm really anxious to try this.  Here's a tek: http://www.lycaeum.org/mv/mu/pkeffect/_pkeffect_psilo_extraction.html

I'd vaporize it freebase.

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Re: ALCOHOL EXTRACTION OF PSILOCYBIN [Re: Yippie]
    #14481379 - 05/19/11 10:02 PM (13 years, 28 days ago)

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If you were to attempt to ethanol "extract" mushrooms - the best you could end up with is a very potent liquid to dose from (at least 1m/1g). Main problem is oxidation during processing which could be addressed with food grade ascorbic acid (and a little EDTA for good measure). Getting crystals isn't 'doable at this point...





please explain... what is the obstacle? It seems like the only difficult part would be precipitation and filtration, right?


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Re: ALCOHOL EXTRACTION OF PSILOCYBIN [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble] * 2
    #14481382 - 05/19/11 10:03 PM (13 years, 28 days ago)

also, I wouldn't try to smoke psilocybin crystals. Shulgin says that they break down from the heat and it's not effective. Just eat them...


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Re: ALCOHOL EXTRACTION OF PSILOCYBIN [Re: Doc_T]
    #14481443 - 05/19/11 10:16 PM (13 years, 28 days ago)

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Benefits of alcohol extraction?

Primary benefit- you don't have to eat the mushrooms!




I don't eat them anyway, tea works just as good for me. It's fast and effective. No nausea either.

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Re: ALCOHOL EXTRACTION OF PSILOCYBIN [Re: Zzzarathustra]
    #14482154 - 05/20/11 12:50 AM (13 years, 28 days ago)

make tea fools! it's called "water extraction" :syringe: :mushroom2: :awetrippie:


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Re: ALCOHOL EXTRACTION OF PSILOCYBIN [Re: Zzzarathustra]
    #14484281 - 05/20/11 12:54 PM (13 years, 28 days ago)

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I don't eat them anyway, tea works just as good for me. It's fast and effective. No nausea either.




Tea still taste like ass bro....

@Doc
Ive been pondering the idea of, making Psilo-Suckers with an everclear extraction much like how i make my THC-Suckers...
Only difference id see is, to make hard candy you have to get the sugar corn syrup up to 300 degrees...
I doubt the additional 88 degrees will hurt the psilocybin... :shrug:
Either way, it will be tried prior this upcoming music festival!

Imagine, a Cherry Cheesecake sucker that gets you high... :crazy2:


Doc, on a side note with the alcohol extractions, or extractions in general...
What was your come up time?
When we did this a few years back, if i remember correctly, our come up time seemed 5-15 mins...
Really fast and really smooth...
We only tried the extraction once thou...any experience on this?

The reason i ask is...
When i make my thc suckers, pound for pound, i think they get you higher than other foods that you eat...
I figure this is due to the sucker getting dissolved as basicly a "liquid", alot of which is dissolved into the receptors in the mouth, which to my understanding can absorb more magic due to no digestive fluids...
If any of this makes sense, lemme kno...
Much :bongload: atm and simply pondering...

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Re: ALCOHOL EXTRACTION OF PSILOCYBIN [Re: total]
    #14484367 - 05/20/11 01:10 PM (13 years, 28 days ago)

300F seems pretty hot. Maybe stir in the magic as the candy is cooling?

Comeup time is semi-immediate with tincture in a glass of juice on an empty stomach.


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Re: ALCOHOL EXTRACTION OF PSILOCYBIN [Re: Doc_T]
    #14484565 - 05/20/11 01:54 PM (13 years, 28 days ago)

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300F seems pretty hot. Maybe stir in the magic as the candy is cooling?




By the time the candy cools >~40 degrees from 300, its already semi hard :frown:
I still plan on giving it a test run...
I'll let you know how it plays out...

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Re: ALCOHOL EXTRACTION OF PSILOCYBIN [Re: total]
    #14484660 - 05/20/11 02:15 PM (13 years, 28 days ago)

If you look at the Erowid page, there's a range of melting points for psilocybin, depending on origin and extraction style.
But even if it melts, that's not saying it necessarily will degrade- you can melt sugar, for example.
So try it and let us know.


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Re: ALCOHOL EXTRACTION OF PSILOCYBIN [Re: Doc_T]
    #14485060 - 05/20/11 03:39 PM (13 years, 28 days ago)

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Re: ALCOHOL EXTRACTION OF PSILOCYBIN [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #14485103 - 05/20/11 03:48 PM (13 years, 28 days ago)

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please explain... what is the obstacle? It seems like the only difficult part would be precipitation and filtration, right?




Sorry, thought I was more clear - beyond getting the alcohol extraction done, you need to retard the oxidation of psilocybin while you extract/reduce. Also there is no precipitation step since no one can/has isolated crystal psilocybin from mushrooms - just making a "mushroom tincture" that is stable (best stored in the freezer).


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Re: ALCOHOL EXTRACTION OF PSILOCYBIN [Re: Yippie]
    #14485113 - 05/20/11 03:50 PM (13 years, 28 days ago)

It would be utterly simple to extract pure psilocybin from mushrooms with the right equipment.
And even homebrew recrystallization will get you a good long way toward that goal.


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Re: ALCOHOL EXTRACTION OF PSILOCYBIN [Re: Zzzarathustra]
    #14485148 - 05/20/11 03:58 PM (13 years, 28 days ago)

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what would be the purpose of doing it ?

I can't think of any benefits :confused:




Having a longterm stable, oxidation-resistant solution that could be dosed from simply and has a rapid onset would be the general idea. Additionally, reducing a large 100g bag of mushroom material down to small 100ml of amber liquid in the freezer may be advantageous for some...


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