ElVatoFirme said:

Sticky Green said:

Aww i guess it's boo hoo for the indians time. The only argument the left has for surrendering our country to a bunch of disease ridden, stinky, freeloaders.

Fuck the indians, they took the place from someone else. At least they had the opportunity to fight. The PC crowd wants to just give it to them.

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Mind telling me who the Native Americans (Indians live in India) took this land from?

And would you tell me how white people tricking the Natives into being friends and them giving them disease infested blankets is giving them the chance to fight?

What did white people need with this land anyway?
If you love white people so much, why not go back to Europe?

This is not the white man's country.
People love to hate on Hitler, but what the white people did when they took over this land is much worse.

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The Ecstatic said:

Blacks being arrested more for committing crimes equally as much as white people is indeed racism.

I'm referring to marijuana arrests specifically, but this is the case in most situations, it's simply glaring in said example.

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ElVatoFirme said:

That's a sign of racism and oppression.
Not proof they commit more crimes.

It's pretty much common knowledge if you're black or brown you're more likely to get incarcerated.  It's one of the biggest arguments against the prison industry, because minorities are targeted.  So really that doesn't help your case at all.

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zappaisgod said:

ElVatoFirme said:

Sticky Green said:

Aww i guess it's boo hoo for the indians time. The only argument the left has for surrendering our country to a bunch of disease ridden, stinky, freeloaders.

Fuck the indians, they took the place from someone else. At least they had the opportunity to fight. The PC crowd wants to just give it to them.

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Mind telling me who the Native Americans (Indians live in India) took this land from?

And would you tell me how white people tricking the Natives into being friends and them giving them disease infested blankets is giving them the chance to fight?

What did white people need with this land anyway?
If you love white people so much, why not go back to Europe?

This is not the white man's country.
People love to hate on Hitler, but what the white people did when they took over this land is much worse.

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Most of the deaths of Indians were inadvertent from disease.  And the Indians were no fucking morally better.  The waged wars and took slaves.  They lost.  Just like every other nation on earth our boundaries are based on conquest.

I'm part Indian myself.  Passamaquoddy  What tribe are you?

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starfire_xes said:

ElVatoFirme said:

That's a sign of racism and oppression.
Not proof they commit more crimes.

It's pretty much common knowledge if you're black or brown you're more likely to get incarcerated.  It's one of the biggest arguments against the prison industry, because minorities are targeted.  So really that doesn't help your case at all.

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qman said:

ElVatoFirme said:

That's a sign of racism and oppression.
Not proof they commit more crimes.

It's pretty much common knowledge if you're black or brown you're more likely to get incarcerated.  It's one of the biggest arguments against the prison industry, because minorities are targeted.  So really that doesn't help your case at all.

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"because minorities are targeted"

Please explain how one gets targeted on the street for murder, rape, manslaughter, robbery, aggravated assault, sexual assault, burglary, car theft, larceny, and weapons possession?

These are crimes that they committed, there are victims to these crimes, no one made them do it, no one "targeted" them for these crimes.

These groups commit a massive disproportional amount of violent crime, it's a fact, deal with it.

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You need to deal with facts.
Most white people in power don't like minorities.
Deal with it.

A white man and a black man can be charged with the same crime and get two completely different punishments.  That is another form of targeting.

qman said:

The Ecstatic said:

Blacks being arrested more for committing crimes equally as much as white people is indeed racism.

I'm referring to marijuana arrests specifically, but this is the case in most situations, it's simply glaring in said example.

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Most white people smoke weed at home, blacks possess, sell and smoke weed in crime ridden areas, all is not equal when evaluating the situation, this is basic commonsense and racism has nothing to do with it.

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ElVatoFirme said:

starfire_xes said:

ElVatoFirme said:

That's a sign of racism and oppression.
Not proof they commit more crimes.

It's pretty much common knowledge if you're black or brown you're more likely to get incarcerated.  It's one of the biggest arguments against the prison industry, because minorities are targeted.  So really that doesn't help your case at all.

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Actually it's the other way around.
People love to end a discussion by saying "racism doesn't exist, it's 2014".
Racism is alive and well all over, buddy, and America is no exception.

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I'm not your buddy.  And it doesn't appear that racism exists to a large extent considering the electorate voted in a half black moron.  They got 3 for the price of one--a black, a white, and a retard. 

Then you have Eric Holder.  The 'Chief Justice'  as if.  He's the biggest fucking racist in the US. 

So take your bullshit elsewhere.  It isn't racist to want to vet and medically screen the people coming into this country.  It's fucking common sense.

And where's the 'fairness' I always hear about?  How is letting millions of people into the US illegally fair to those who go through the legal process, and have the government put a microscope up their ass for years before they give them a Visa?

zappaisgod said:

The Ecstatic said:

Blacks being arrested more for committing crimes equally as much as white people is indeed racism.

I'm referring to marijuana arrests specifically, but this is the case in most situations, it's simply glaring in said example.

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I can't link the NY Times editorial today because I have exceeded my on line limit but they had a routine about the disparate racial aspect.  But they were revelatory.  They said Caucasians smoke behind closed doors and Negroes smoke on the street.  Well fucking duh.  You are definitely going to get busted more if you do shit in public

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ElVatoFirme said:

Two (sort of) black people doing government things!
Racism is over!

Ever heard the term "house nigger"?

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No argument there, Obama has been a puppet  since day one, that's the way the world works. 

ElVatoFirme said:

zappaisgod said:

ElVatoFirme said:

Sticky Green said:

Aww i guess it's boo hoo for the indians time. The only argument the left has for surrendering our country to a bunch of disease ridden, stinky, freeloaders.

Fuck the indians, they took the place from someone else. At least they had the opportunity to fight. The PC crowd wants to just give it to them.

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Mind telling me who the Native Americans (Indians live in India) took this land from?

And would you tell me how white people tricking the Natives into being friends and them giving them disease infested blankets is giving them the chance to fight?

What did white people need with this land anyway?
If you love white people so much, why not go back to Europe?

This is not the white man's country.
People love to hate on Hitler, but what the white people did when they took over this land is much worse.

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Most of the deaths of Indians were inadvertent from disease.  And the Indians were no fucking morally better.  The waged wars and took slaves.  They lost.  Just like every other nation on earth our boundaries are based on conquest.

I'm part Indian myself.  Passamaquoddy  What tribe are you?

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Oh I forgot, white people never mean any harm.  All the people that die where ever they go is all accidental.

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The Ecstatic said:

zappaisgod said:

The Ecstatic said:

Blacks being arrested more for committing crimes equally as much as white people is indeed racism.

I'm referring to marijuana arrests specifically, but this is the case in most situations, it's simply glaring in said example.

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I can't link the NY Times editorial today because I have exceeded my on line limit but they had a routine about the disparate racial aspect.  But they were revelatory.  They said Caucasians smoke behind closed doors and Negroes smoke on the street.  Well fucking duh.  You are definitely going to get busted more if you do shit in public

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How does one quantify wher different races choose to smoke weed?

Most of my black friends are a hell of a lot more anxious about smoking in public, as opposed to my white friends who will basically do any drug anywhere anytime.

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zappaisgod said:

I didn't say all of them died from disease.  I said most of them.  The fact is that there was murderous intent on both sides and the Indians were just as scummy as the Europeans.  They just weren't as competent.

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Did a white man tell you they had slaves?
If so, may want to take that with a grain of salt.

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Are you shitting me?  Do you doubt that fact?  They fucking raided and warred with each other for millenia, taking slaves and raping and murdering and doing exactly the same shit ever other group of humans has done throughout history

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How Native are you?  Like 5%?  Because no self-respecting Native aware of his own culture would have some of the opinions you do.

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No true Irishman.......  Have I wandered too far off the reservation for you Pocahantas?

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Way too far.  You're practically Columbus.
And I think you mean "Pocahontas".  Kind of funny you spelled that wrong considering you got butt hurt I forgot a letter in my tribe

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As for my tribe, part Tenocha, other part unknown.  Don't know that side of my family, and growing up no one told me.

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You can't even spell it.  Go back to Mexico and bitch at the Spaniards.

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I bitch at all Europeans, and I don't have to go to Mexico to bitch at a Spaniard.

ElVatoFirme said:

zappaisgod said:

I didn't say all of them died from disease.  I said most of them.  The fact is that there was murderous intent on both sides and the Indians were just as scummy as the Europeans.  They just weren't as competent.

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If the Natives had murderous intent, it was because white people were coming to take their land, claiming it as the "New World".  I'd be a little murderous, too.  Do you blame them for defending themselves against people with malicious intent?

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Did a white man tell you they had slaves?
If so, may want to take that with a grain of salt.

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Are you shitting me?  Do you doubt that fact?  They fucking raided and warred with each other for millenia, taking slaves and raping and murdering and doing exactly the same shit ever other group of humans has done throughout history

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I doubt all "facts" said by white people.  In America, all that is taught is European history from a European point of view.

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How Native are you?  Like 5%?  Because no self-respecting Native aware of his own culture would have some of the opinions you do.

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No true Irishman.......  Have I wandered too far off the reservation for you Pocahantas?

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Way too far.  You're practically Columbus.
And I think you mean "Pocahontas".  Kind of funny you spelled that wrong considering you got butt hurt I forgot a letter in my tribe

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As for my tribe, part Tenocha, other part unknown.  Don't know that side of my family, and growing up no one told me.

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You can't even spell it.  Go back to Mexico and bitch at the Spaniards.

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I bitch at all Europeans, and I don't have to go to Mexico to bitch at a Spaniard.

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zappaisgod said:

I claim to be part indian.  I'm 100% native.  If anybody should suck the white man's dick it is all the people who have benefited from his technology while contributing exactly nothing.  Get off the internet.

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The Ecstatic said:

Blacks being arrested more for committing crimes equally as much as white people is indeed racism.

I'm referring to marijuana arrests specifically, but this is the case in most situations, it's simply glaring in said example.

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