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Re: Is a massive LSD trip in order? [Re: Tasty_Smurf_House]
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Tasty_Smurf_House said:
What is this 4th and 3rd densities you speak of? Also it feels like lately that something out there has been calling me, like telling me I need to experience the acid trip and that something is waiting there for me. Anyone felt this before?




I have been feeling this also i feel like i need a lsd trip .It feels like a lsd trip will bring the magic back. since latley i feel stuck like im not progresin in my journey.

I also feel the smae way about what you said on your first post

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Re: Is a massive LSD trip in order? [Re: World Spirit]
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Thanks for the compliment, but on the one hand, I'm not so rare among hippies of my generation, and on the other hand, there is only one of me for all time, so I'm both 'a type' AND I'm singularly unique. They cancel each other - self-importance is just harmful to spiritual development anyway. (It's one of those true things that came out of the fictional Casteneda works).

Yoga, young apprentice :smile: means Union [from the Sanskrit root -yug] and refers to Union with the Divine. Different schools of Yoga reference a Personal God (Iswara) or The Divine Personality of the Godhead (Krishna in the Bhagavad Gita), or an Impersonal Absolute (Shankara; Advaita) or the recognition that God is both Personal and Transpersonal (Saguna Brahman/Nirguna Brahman respectively). Different disciplines exist within these schools: Bhakti, the Yoga of the Gita, is devotional; Karma is the Yoga of selfless action (Mother Theresa); Jnana (pronounced Gyan) is the Yoga of Knowledge (Gnosis); Hatha (Sun-Moon) Yoga focuses on physical positions; Kundalini Yoga uses postures, breathing, exercises and visualizations. Today one reads about Integral Yoga, Power Yoga, Iyengar Yoga, but all harken back to the formulations of Patanjali's Ashtanga or Eight-Limbed Yoga that you can look up on the net. This is the classic form that embodies all of the others. It defines the psycho-physico-spiritual stages that can be found among Western mystics who never even heard about Yoga, because these stages are archetypal - they derive from the very structure of the human psyche.

Now lest the Christian man or woman object to an apparent monopoly of sacred knowledge which seems to be held by India - a predominantly Hindu culture, I direct those individuals to the Eastern Orthodox Christian tradition of Hesychasm (Tranquility) which conjoins standard Christian beliefs to a Yoga-like body of practices which utilize postures, breathing, heartbeat and inner focus on the 'formless Name of the Logos' in one's Heart, while repeating the Jesus Prayer (where the Name Jesus means all of its synonyms like Logos, Word, Light, Pearl, 2nd Hypostasis of the Trinity, etc. and NEVER the image of some bearded Jewish carpenter). While these practices constitute higher degrees of Sanctification for the Christian, and are available only to the Christian, the Christian and non-Christian alike can practice Ashtanga Yoga and benefit from it - on acid (especially) and off. Vishnudevananda's 'Complete Illustrated Book of Yoga' is about the best for self-instruction, and Christopher Isherwood's little book 'How to Know God' is an excellent rendering of Patanjali's Yoga, including the two types of Samadhi (Enstasy) and the sub-levels - all of which relate to psychedelic states of awareness.

Lama Govinda's 'Foundations of Tibetan Mysticism' presupposes a knowledge of Hindu Yoga, and then describes Tibetan Buddhist Yoga (especially of the Inner Fire as contrasted with Kundalini Yoga) but expect an advanced, lengthy study of this text. A 'Lama' title goes beyond the 'Geshe' title, which is equivalent to a Doctoral level of knowledge in Tibetan Buddhism. Better left to scholars it is.

It's like working out enter. One can dabble here and there with weights at home, or go to a gym once in a while, but if one wishes to make real progress, one needs to select a discipline and work it until results clearly manifest. Armchair philosophy is just mental masturbation. One can mix zinc dust with sulphur, lay it on the ground, light it, and have a big blue flash and a thick cloud of smoke. But, if one fashions an engine, and shapes a nozzle according to established specifications, then the same amount of rocket fuel can send a homemade rocket 1000 feet in the air. I know, I used to build them. One can take a s**tload of LSD and just become a neurological burnout, or one can follow certain prescribed specifications and Really SOAR! 


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γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself

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Re: Is a massive LSD trip in order? [Re: buckwheat]
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i used to get that feeling that something out there was calling me and that something was waiting for me too.
It makes me feel really restless
I'm sure it will come back
I also felt like my journey was slowing down..and eventually felt like it had just stopped and died away (sad feeling)
1 hit of fractal this summer...not even enough to trip really...and i havent felt like that in a while
What is it about acid that does that?
What a weird chemical


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"Limitless undying love which shines around me like a million suns - it calls me on and on across the universe" ~ John Lennon

"Once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right" ~The Grateful Dead

"Religionists, with their guaranteed eventual paradise, of which they know nothing, taking it all on 'faith,' can't be expected to understand or sympathize with those with a yen to storm the Gate of Heaven and see for themselves what all the praying's about!" ~Robert Hunter

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Re: Is a massive LSD trip in order? [Re: Help on the Way]
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I also felt like my journey was slowing down..and eventually felt like it had just stopped and died away (sad feeling)




Exactly the way i feel. ive tried lots of differnt things like meditation, mushrooms, dmt lately and none make me feel like lsd does afterwards.it feels like it died away too, like i burned out at a young age very sad feeling. i really wish i could get some doses.

Im not saying i need lsd to feel like this all the time.one good trip will show me the way again for a very long time, in my expirience 2 years

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Re: Is a massive LSD trip in order? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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Re: Is a massive LSD trip in order? [Re: World Spirit]
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If you hadn't been so self-absorbed, you would've seen me on the green Indian rug doing Halasan, Matsyasan, Janu Sirasan...look 'em up!

Follow the classic steps of Yoga. I know that Yamas and Niyamas are already in place with you. That means beginning with the body (Asanas), moving to chosen breathing exercises (Pranayama) - but not too much because too much Shakti [nervous energy] will be uncomfortable if not unmanageable; then the inner stages of sense withdrawal (Pratyahara), Concentration (Dharana), Meditation (Dhyana) - which is a movement in which Concentration (on a select mental object) becomes effortless; and Samadhi (the continued effortless and blissful condition [Ananda] that results from passing through these stages). One has to learn and practice these stages BEFORE one imbibes a Sacred Substance. That is not the time to learn how. Pilots learn on a simulator before they leave the ground. Make mistakes before hand 'cause you don't want to waste valuable 'flight time.'

What one can aim for is the experience of 'placing the Mind in one's Heart.' This is the crux of Vajrayana Buddhist practice [the Diamond Body], the crux of the highest Hindu mysticism called Advaita [Hridayam - Heart Cave], of Eastern Orthodox Hesychasm [the Heart], of Catholic mysticism [the Sacred Heart - which illustrates the process by the Crown of Thorns from the Head of Christ, now encircling the Heart made radiant by the Holy Spirit which 'takes residence' in the Head-Heart Union; in Islamic Sufi Dhikkir practices, and on and on.
Religions are the frame, the portrait is the Formless Face of God. THAT is the aim.


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γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself

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Re: Is a massive LSD trip in order? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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Re: Is a massive LSD trip in order? [Re: World Spirit]
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Once again, you seem to be having a dialogue with yourself, not me. Firstly, I don't know how you go off on fancied tangents 1) about the Christian mythos as differing in your perception and mine, and 2) Union with GOD, which constitutes mysticism proper, of which the Sanskrit word is Yoga, is just that - UNION. It is no longer Comm[union], which connotes two Subjects: Divine and human. Mystical Union is Oneness with GOD. It is a paradox. It is not approached with logic, and the paradox is not soluble in any amount of rational thought. Mysticism is Transrational. It does not say that my self IS YHVH. It does not say that MarkostheGnostic created the heavens and the Earth. What this is about is your own fear at the incredible possibility of 'Fana,' an Islamic term for the extinction of one's ego in GOD, and yet the paradox of full awareness of the Reality of GOD. There remains ONLY "the Imperishable Face," which is Islamic talk for the Immediacy of GOD's Presence - nothing else.

It is through human awareness or consciousness that the Reality of Infinite Awareness, which is one of GOD's attributes, is known. GOD's Essence is Unknowable to anyone but GOD. GOD's Uncreated Energies (Grace, Virtue, etc.), GOD's Holy Spirit, which is the Divine Immanence - suffusing the creation, but not of the substance of creation - IS knowable by the human being. There is the Nature of GOD and GOD's Essence here. The first is knowable insofar as GOD reveals Him/Herself to the duly prepared human, the latter is not knowable to any but GOD. This theology runs through all of the world religions. And, from a Christian theological view, GOD's Logos/Son/Pearl/Word/Light/Wonderful Counselor, is that aspect of Divinity which can interface with the human being. Therefore, GOD [the Father] or 'Primordial Being,' remains hidden, while GOD [the Son] or 'Expressive Being' and GOD [the Holy Spirit] or 'Unitive Being' is experienceable. Now this is orthodox Christian theology - Masters and Doctoral level theology - as authored by John MacQuarrie's 'Principles of Christian Theology.'

This isn't make-believe - this is about the experience of the Living GOD Who enters into the Center of the human being through a psychospiritual 'singularity' in the Heart - a '0 dimension point' where the Infinitesimally small and the Infinitely large are Absolutely Identical. In Infinity, large and small disappear as qualifiers. Atman and Brahman. Christ and self. "I live, yet not I; Christ liveth in me." I live, yet not I - paradox. Paul's 'awareness' is an awareness that his Center is no longer the ego, it has been dethroned as the center of his being, and Christ has become the new Center of his psychospiritual life. The ego now serves the true Center and King of one's inner life - Christ. One lives in obeyance to the loving dictates of this new Center, for it is Wisdom itself, Love itself, and It/He is the only Master worth obeying. One is Divinely Governed by Compassion now, and rather than being a shortcoming, life has shown me the Truth in: "Seek first the Kingdom of Heaven and its righteousness, and all things will be added to you."


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γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself

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Re: Is a massive LSD trip in order? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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Re: Is a massive LSD trip in order? [Re: World Spirit]
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In case it hasn't yet occurred to you, the Name and therefore the Meaning of GOD that was revealed to Moses was the 'Eyeh Asher Eyeh' which is usually translated as "I AM THAT I AM." The actual Hebrew would be "I WILL BE WHAT I WILL BE." Whatever. The point is that GOD is Named as Identity - Selfhood. Now, the Infinite 'I AM' is not the same as contingent beings (us), but as you will agree, GOD is the Source of all things, and GOD sustains our existence, moment-to-moment. Our existence, as aware beings is what GOD sustains, not as mere 'dust' or 'clay.' We are created in GOD's 'image and likeness,' and I could go on about what these things mean in Christian theology, but that would take me too far afield. Moses was allowed to see GOD's "hind portion," while hidden in a cleft of rock. Did Moses literally see GOD's ass?!! No. The Essence of GOD remains hidden. In Greek mythology, the unfortunate mortal who won any favor from Zeus chose to see him in his true form. Zeus begged her not to ask this, but he kept his word. She was annihilated in his light. Krishna shows Arjuna his Universal Form, and Arjuna is not annihilated, but he is 'blown away.' Nirvana means, literally, 'blowing out,' as a candle flame - extinction of desire.

The 'Face of GOD alone does not perish.' The Face of GOD is formless Transcendence. It cannot be described, nor committed to image or art. To do so is blasphemy, and this is wise. The Face of GOD is not a 33 year old bearded Jewish carpenter. "There is no GOD but GOD..." Islam insists. "Hear O Israel, the LORD thy GOD, the LORD is ONE" - the Shema that Jesus Himself recited with all due reverence- addresses GOD. GOD is ONE. ONE. UNO. UNITAS. UNITY. What is your question?

Patanjali, BTW, was the first to codify the teachings into a coherent body of instruction. If he called Christ Atman, that should not be held against him. I call my wife Rose, her biological mother calls her Marie, her step-mother calls her Ayo [Ayo Ba-Wa'lay - 'Joy has returned home'). The Lady responds with affection to all of us - they are all her names. My GOD is not petty, nor is He easily offended. I aspire to BE like Him.


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γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself

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Re: Is a massive LSD trip in order? [Re: buckwheat]
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yes,
its so reassuring/refreshing to read things like this
i've been "yearning" (can't think of a better way to say it)
for a good lsd trip for some time...
it's like a constant pulling sensation...
not like addiction, i know from experience what that feels like...
just to have that feeling you get the day after
it's like defragging your hard drive...
the next day everything's in order and seems to go smoother
...
but like i said in other posts, it's goin on 3 years since i've seen it... i'm following a lead right now, but i've learned not to get my hopes up after such a long dry period
where are you people finding it?
i'm so jealous
i'd pack up and move somewhere if i knew there was a constant supply :P
p.s.
if you're organizing a massive group LSD trip, can i come?


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Re: Is a massive LSD trip in order? [Re: World Spirit]
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whats with those 4th and 3rd densities

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Re: Is a massive LSD trip in order? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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Re: Is a massive LSD trip in order? [Re: World Spirit]
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"will you qoute scriptue and yet deny other scripture?"
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heh, folks have been doing that for 2000 years (at least!)
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"defragging hard drive = good acid trip"
heh, i like that...


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Re: Is a massive LSD trip in order? [Re: World Spirit]
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Frankly, I have no idea of what you are talking about. Please someone out there explain enter's response to me.  Your Scriptural quote is not contradictory to anything I've said, but I suppose enter, that I'm playing '3 dimensional chess' and you're playing the standard, single level board. (I could have used a card-playing analogy and insinuated that you were not playing with a full deck, but that would be mean).  :smirk:

Secondly, just because YOU do not understand what I'm saying, does not mean that I am "twisting" anything to fit my own idiosyncratic theology. It is YOU that has an idiosyncratic way about yourself which prevents an expansion of your learning. I am writing pure orthodox theology that cuts across Protestant, Catholic and Orthodox lines. YOU are the one who needs to come up to speed on this because you have some subjective understanding of the Scripture you quoted. That quote in no way contradicts Christian theology among the more sophisticated ecumenical people who can find salvific value in one another's faiths, without relinquishing their own faiths. "He who is not against us, is for us" sayeth the Lord. If you maintain that all Jews and Muslims, just because they remain Jews and Muslims and don't abandon the faith of their father's to become Christians, are NOT SAVED, or ARE GOING TO HELL - then you are a bigot of the worst kind, and I for one would shake the dust from my feet while leaving your presence forever. If you have yet to grasp that God has revealed Himself in various and sundry times to different peoples, or that Allah-Abwoon-Abba-Adonai are ONE and the same GOD, then I pity you beyond any ignorant atheist. If that is the case, then you whole so-called spiritual trip is a sham and a mere exercise in intellectual masochism.

When John wrote his scathing epithets against certain Jews (for example), it was very particular to whom he was addressing, yet his writings have perpetrated some of the worst hatred and justification for hatred of Jews the world has ever seen. People generalize, they do not think critically, they do not understand the actual time-place-bound meaning of these writings and interpret them in ways that were not intended by the author. So tell me again about "twisting" Scripture, while you attempt to use a piece of Pauline literature to prove a pointless point. The point is that YOU don't get it. If you got it, and WERE it, people would greet you like the rising sun, not like the responses you often receive here. Being Holy, being 'set apart' is not the same as being asocial, or avoidant, or ARROGANT while secretly believing that one is actually egoless. Ask yourself: 'Do these Shroomerites not want to know the Truth, what is Really Ultimately Real, or do they just not want to hear MY version of it?' Go ahead...ask it...make my day. 


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γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself

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Re: Is a massive LSD trip in order? [Re: buckwheat]
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mindcandy said:
it feels like it died away too, like i burned out at a young age very sad feeling.


was it sort of like your life had peaked way too early and now it had all wound down and ended and all that was left was to wait everything out?

thats how it felt for me for a while
made me pretty depressed
maybe you should get some woodrose seeds...they kinda helped me with that ...although not nearly as much as acid but still more than mushrooms


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"Limitless undying love which shines around me like a million suns - it calls me on and on across the universe" ~ John Lennon

"Once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right" ~The Grateful Dead

"Religionists, with their guaranteed eventual paradise, of which they know nothing, taking it all on 'faith,' can't be expected to understand or sympathize with those with a yen to storm the Gate of Heaven and see for themselves what all the praying's about!" ~Robert Hunter

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Re: Is a massive LSD trip in order? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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Re: Is a massive LSD trip in order? [Re: Help on the Way]
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Slipknot420 said:
mindcandy said:
it feels like it died away too, like i burned out at a young age very sad feeling.


was it sort of like your life had peaked way too early and now it had all wound down and ended and all that was left was to wait everything out?

thats how it felt for me for a while
made me pretty depressed
maybe you should get some woodrose seeds...they kinda helped me with that ...although not nearly as much as acid but still more than mushrooms


Yea kinda but i have never felt that all had ended only my learning in this journey, creativity flows outta my mind like crazy period is gone. like i have no fuel to light my fire hehe. like the way i use to look at trees and experience pure extacy. thats cuz my first trip i stared at huge tree the whole time it was so buetiful.but yea i know it will come back.i also feel like im about to visited by a period of intense energy learning and creativity fueled by lsd.


But i will be gettin some hbwr courtesy of psiloz and his experiment

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Re: Is a massive LSD trip in order? [Re: buckwheat]
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Yeah... you could study indian techniques, but you'd prolly be better off goin' to church and having 30 people pray and lay hands upon you in the name of love to give you a cleansing experience... but you have to be open to the experience to allow the energy to move... and get yourself a garden or do some type of manual labor... staying peaceful in poor conditions is key... it grounds and connects spirit to form.. you'll end up with a different kind of posture too. Intend to be a blessing and move forth with that mind. We are all constantly communicating with each through sub conscious body language... Jesus or Love as a focus makes us more aware of what is goin' on.... like a new kinda mental word association that is self defining. In the end we're understanding... all space in every instance is attempting to make one conscious of this.


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The Woven World is all I see.
Put cloves in your weed and tell them its for the LSD.
.oO0 Listen to White Zombie 0Oo.

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Re: Is a massive LSD trip in order? [Re: buckwheat]
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like i have no fuel to light my fire hehe. like the way i use to look at trees and experience pure extacy. thats cuz my first trip i stared at huge tree the whole time it was so buetiful



I know exactly what you mean about the letdown effect.
After you've had a glimpse of eternity it's hard to settle for second best.

One thing you must do it to integrate the insights you gained into your everyday reality. This takes time. And that is why I don't trip very often. If you eat a big meal you need time to digest it.



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