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Snobrdr311
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Re: Cool Mist setups VS. Poor Mans Pod [Re: LiL_KuSsH]
#1900539 - 09/09/03 10:42 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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LiL_KuSsH said: u just prove my point.....>http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...;o=&fpart=1
unbroken cakes surrounded (covered) with verm or casing material........
Got news for ya, that's called a casing.
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Snobrdr311
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Re: Cool Mist setups VS. Poor Mans Pod [Re: LiL_KuSsH]
#1900562 - 09/09/03 10:46 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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If you do it in a tray and cover it compleatly the way Anno did it, and let the top layer colonize, then yes it's a casing.
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TM
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Re: Cool Mist setups VS. Poor Mans Pod [Re: Snobrdr311]
#1900576 - 09/09/03 10:48 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wrong! Even rolling a wet cake in verm is casing it!
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Snobrdr311
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Re: Cool Mist setups VS. Poor Mans Pod [Re: BatFly]
#1900586 - 09/09/03 10:50 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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. and you went further in the debate why?
I went with the way your little friend down there took the discussion. Casings grow fine at 95%, they're susposed to be at 95% for primorida development and then dropped to 88-92 once pins are formed, I have done this, and also left it at 95% the whole way through and didn't notice much of a differnce. I didn't notice much of a differnce in pinset development at 92% either, as opposed to 95%.
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Snobrdr311
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Re: Cool Mist setups VS. Poor Mans Pod [Re: BatFly]
#1900598 - 09/09/03 10:52 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Read the Mushroom Cultivator and learn what casings do and why they work the way they do. Then maybe you'll get an idea as to what i'm talking about.
i did and the whole purpose of casing is to make it self hydrated. you should be able to make a casing and stick it in a tub or drawer and it's own microclimate will provide it with the right moisture as long as you lightly mist it. so all your arguing about wether or nto a pmp or a cool mist is better for a casing is irrelevant in that it does not necessarily need additional air conditioning other than light misting. and 95% relative humidity is too high for a casing anyway, ideal for a casing is 90% or less due to it's very own micro climate.
so, you are arguing something that gets decomposed in it's own hypothesis stage. and you went further in the debate why?
My point remains, a PMP does nothing better for a casing than a Cool Mist setup does. And the PMP does not cost less than a Cool Mist setup does. A new Cool Mist is $24, I got mine for $6 off Ebay.
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Re: Cool Mist setups VS. Poor Mans Pod [Re: LiL_KuSsH]
#1900602 - 09/09/03 10:52 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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i got one for ya, which is it? double end CASING tek is it a cake? or a casing? the world may never know! uh oh, i was just silly there, hope i'm not to imature for this discussion! yeah that was a whole HELL of a lot of sarcasm buddy! Quote:
My point remains, a PMP does nothing better for a casing than a Cool Mist setup does.
what point was that? then why are you arguing? it all about the patching you fool! and if you did want to control the climate of your casing better i WOULD infact suggest a pmp on the ground you can either put vavles on the hoses, do what magash does and make slidable thingys over the filtered holes to controll the out flow or both. so you can get the varying degrees of humidity you'd need. and there's your closure! your dumb for arguing. ever see a dog backed into a corner? it keeps barking and barking. if it were inthe open it'd run away.
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Snobrdr311
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Re: Cool Mist setups VS. Poor Mans Pod [Re: TM]
#1900613 - 09/09/03 10:55 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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TripMeister said: Wrong! Even rolling a wet cake in verm is casing it!
I guess, if that's what you want to call it. It's not the true defination of casing though like Anno did it, it also won't yield as much as the true casing method, like how Anno has it displayed.
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Re: Cool Mist setups VS. Poor Mans Pod [Re: Snobrdr311]
#1900632 - 09/09/03 11:01 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Snobrdr311 said:
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TripMeister said: Wrong! Even rolling a wet cake in verm is casing it!
I guess, if that?s what you want to call it. It?s not the true defination of casing though like Anno did it, it also won?t yield as much as the true casing method, like how Anno has it displayed.
Wrong again!
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Snobrdr311
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Re: Cool Mist setups VS. Poor Mans Pod [Re: TM]
#1900643 - 09/09/03 11:05 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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That's a cake growing cake style with some verm sprinkled on top of it, not a casing. Wow are you misinformed.
Anyway, Magash I got nothin for love for ya for developing this and bringing it to the OMC. It's an excellent innovation.
To the rest of you, keep reading.
Goodnight.
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TM
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Re: Cool Mist setups VS. Poor Mans Pod [Re: Snobrdr311]
#1900649 - 09/09/03 11:08 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Snobrdr311 said: That's a cake growing cake style with some verm sprinkled on top of it, not a casing. Wow are you misinformed.
Anyway, Magash I got nothin for love for ya for developing this and bringing it to the OMC. It's an excellent innovation.
To the rest of you, keep reading.
Goodnight.
I am far from misinformed. That cake was rolled in verm when wet before being placed in the PMP. The verm colonized. YOU are misinformed.
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Re: Cool Mist setups VS. Poor Mans Pod [Re: Snobrdr311]
#1900671 - 09/09/03 11:15 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Why do you guys have to bitch so much?
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Snobrdr311
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Re: Cool Mist setups VS. Poor Mans Pod [Re: BatFly]
#1900691 - 09/09/03 11:23 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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BatFly said:
] what point was that? then why are you arguing? it all about the patching you fool! and if you did want to control the climate of your casing better i WOULD infact suggest a pmp on the ground you can either put vavles on the hoses, do what magash does and make slidable thingys over the filtered holes to controll the out flow or both. so you can get the varying degrees of humidity you'd need.
and there's your closure! your dumb for arguing. ever see a dog backed into a corner? it keeps barking and barking. if it were inthe open it'd run away.
I'm arguing because you and your misinformed little friends keep taking this conversation in differnt directions, and you're misinforming a lot of people on here. What does patching have to do with a terrerium? Yes you need to patch, everyone should know that, but it's irrelivant to the fact of a casing in a PMP vs. a Cool Mist. You need to patch no matter what kind of growing chamber the casing goes into.
I already explained why a PMP is no good for casings, because there's not enough surface area for the air to come up with the bottom of the casing tin laying flat on the geolite covering most of the bottom. 3 casings in the PMP and the entire bottom surface area would be covered compleatly, with no area for the PMP to function properly and bring fresh humid air into the terrerium.
Now say you only put one casing on the PMP, and it is able to function properly and have enough surface area to work correctly.. if you put one casing in a cool mist setup and compare the results they'd still be the same.
It seems like you're getting frustrated. whats up with the name calling? Settle down dude.
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Re: Cool Mist setups VS. Poor Mans Pod [Re: Demiurge]
#1900702 - 09/09/03 11:27 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Demiurge said: Why do you guys have to bitch so much?
Yeah I agree, I need what you have in your icon.. goodnight
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Re: Cool Mist setups VS. Poor Mans Pod [Re: Snobrdr311]
#1900705 - 09/09/03 11:29 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ha Poor Man?s Pod... Ha Cool Mist.. HA
Sorry, just had to.
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GernBlanston
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*looks up*
Now, THAT's pretty...
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GregHimself
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Dude...what are the specs on that pic?
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Snobrdr311
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ExtravagantDream said: Ha Poor Man?s Pod... Ha Cool Mist.. HA Sorry, just had to.
That should be enough proof to the kids in here that dung (i?m assuming it?s dung/compost or some kind of bulk) yields more than PF cakes, LOL. Or then again, maybe not?
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Re: Cool Mist setups VS. Poor Mans Pod [Re: Snobrdr311]
#1900757 - 09/09/03 11:50 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bird Seed cased with Bed-A-Beast Coconut Fiber. Ultrasonic humidifier and duel air pump.
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Snobrdr311
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Looks very very nice. Thanks for posting it!
What strain and what was the wet weight of the first flush? Was RH like 95% or higher throught the run?
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