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 bluefoot
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 Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??!!  [Re: mushroomaniac]
#765523 - 07/21/02 05:49 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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Personally, I think that when you start off with the outset of "need", that's when the shrooms can burn you. It possibly can be done, even for a newb I guess, in 3-4 weeks. And a hydrapod or a good terr. set-up is definitely the way to go to get there. I agree with Anno - get them inoculated now. You'll need every last minute. Good luck.
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bluefoot
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Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??!! [Re: mushroomaniac]
#765535 - 07/21/02 05:53 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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Oh, yeah. And as far as the fastest colonizing and best safe first flush crops, I would choose either a Thai strain or good old B+.
10 cents.
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ChromeCrow
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Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??Need 50G Dry!! [Re: mushroomaniac]
#765575 - 07/21/02 06:03 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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well, im gonna add my .2 cents here, but, if you havent got the spores, and are ordering them, i would make a few jars of orissa india's. if they make the time limit, you could possibly get the shrooms, because of how big they grow. they dont take any longer than most strains to colonize. i just picked 50 grams dry from my first flush of a compost casing. i know ya get more that way, but with more cakes, the bigger shrooms might make a difference. GOOD LUCK,
pleasent journeys,
CC
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 Fd3000
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Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??Need 50G Dry!! [Re: ChromeCrow]
#765737 - 07/21/02 06:56 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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I read your other thread where you were concerned about contams raping your cakes so i did a little math(my daily limit) for you.
Most dunked cakes get about 6 g dry average from each flush. Lets say you just got 5 g dry off each cake. You would need 10 cakes but contams may claim a few. I would set the goal of 20 cakes, its a lot but if you want to reach your goal then that?s what you gotta do. 20 cakes, lets say you loose 5 to contams you still got your goal in dry weight.
Get 10 syringes if you want to do what you did before, i think some vendors have discounts if you order lots of a product. Go with fastest shipping possible. Also get a pod if you really have that much cash to spair(rich basterd!).
Then you will definitely reach your goal with the super-colonization technique and the pods perfect pinning/fruiting conditions. Also make sure you have a pressure cooker that will cut down on the amount of contams drastically. If not then boiling works with a 100% contam-free rate if you boil for 4 hours, works for my buddy. So overall your deadline is possible if spending like $350 is not a problem.
May karma guide your cakes to a bountiful flush!
Fd 
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Baby_Hitler
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Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??Need 50G Dry!! [Re: Fd3000]
#766108 - 07/21/02 09:06 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dunked cakes get 6g dry total, not per flush.
4g is the average.
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merk227
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Registered: 06/28/02
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Post deleted by Moe Howard [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#768046 - 07/22/02 02:57 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm done with drugs and growing mushrooms forever, or at least until the current drug laws change, its not worth the risk to me. Thank you for your information that you have provided me shroomery, but I will not be using it. Thanks Moe for deleting my posts, Good bye all, and have great lives. -merk227
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Fd3000
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Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??Need 50G Dry!! [Re: merk227]
#768098 - 07/22/02 03:15 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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Its definetly per flush, if it wasnt it would be like 1-2 grams a flush. That means 10-20 grams wet, thats only like 2 meduim size mushrooms per flush!
My friend has also proven this to me by constantly getting no less that 4.5 dry grams per flush....
Fd
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Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??Need 50G Dry!! [Re: Fd3000]
#768240 - 07/22/02 03:56 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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Fd- I know he would need a ton of syringes but if he has 25 people involved, and have money, they may be able to afford many syringes =)
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merk227
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Post deleted by Moe Howard [Re: Fd3000]
#768339 - 07/22/02 04:30 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm done with drugs and growing mushrooms forever, or at least until the current drug laws change, its not worth the risk to me. Thank you for your information that you have provided me shroomery, but I will not be using it. Thanks Moe for deleting my posts, Good bye all, and have great lives. -merk227
Edited by merk227 (07/22/02 04:30 PM)
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Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??Need 50G Dry!! [Re: merk227]
#770424 - 07/23/02 11:22 AM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'll jump in.
Somebody asked if 1/2 pint cakes can be stacked in a pod. They can, and in fact I believe mycotek officially encourages it (for gourmet cakes of course).
somebody said a bulk tek wouldn't have a chance of succeeding in time Consider this:
1 spore syringe to 200 ml's of dextrose water. If incubated it can be used in 4 days.
10 Quart jars of millet innoculated with 20 mls of liquid innoculum. If incubated can be colonized in 5 days.
Quart jars could spawn a small amount of straw. If using a small amount (say two 6X6X12" compressed blocks from the hobby store) and chopping the straw, it could be colonized in 5 days with such a high spawn rate.
Straw can be fruited without a casing for one huge flush. Just keep the humidity high. Yield for this example could be estimated at well more than double what he needs.
That's 14 days to pin initiation. Plenty of time left to get the first flush, harvest and dry it.
Now, these are all optimums, and no chance I'd advise a beginner to bet on it. Hell, an advanced cultivator would have to have a well tuned operation to match that timeline. Just wanted to illustrate that it could be done and to show the benefit of practice, if you're good, you can get what you need when you need it!
I'd recomend the pod if you're willing to pay. I'd prepare 24-36 1/2 pints of BRF/verm substrate. After all, you buy them buy the dozen, right? I'd use a total of 2-4ccs per jar. That's anywhere from 4-12 12cc syringes. Colonize jars in light unless growing the PF classic strain, this speeds pinning more than many people admit. Colonize them at 84 deg F.
If you want to try and speed things up as much as possible, and have a plan B, you could use some spore solution to innoculate some dextrose water. In a few days, you could turn 1-2 ccs of spore solution into 200 cc's of liquid innoculate. Use this liquid innoculant to start a back-up set of cakes (which will probably actually colonize first if you do it right). Or try a whole grain. Grains innoculated with dextrose water and incubated colonize amazingly fast. Just depends on how ambitious you want to be, and how many back-up plans you want to have...
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