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 HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??Need 50G Dry!! 
#764460 - 07/21/02 11:06 AM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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A situation has come up and I need 50 dry grams of mushrooms in 3-4 weeks:) Is this amount easier reached using a terrium with cool mist humidifier or using the hydra-pod? I have heard great things about the hydra-pod and money is no problem. I am wondering which of these will give me the bigger yield...which is more effective and which will be easier!? I've heard great things about the hydra-pod...what should I do!
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Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??!! [Re: mushroomaniac]
#764461 - 07/21/02 11:07 AM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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Oh also, if I'm using the pf-tek, how many cakes will I need to reach the 50g dry yield?
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Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??!! [Re: mushroomaniac]
#764476 - 07/21/02 11:16 AM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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>A situation has come up and I need 50 dry grams of mushrooms in 3-4 weeks:)
This is gona be hard...but hydrapod definitely works good, if money is no issure.
50 g dry...I?d guess 15 cakes after the first flush, or 10 after several flushes.
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Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??!! [Re: Anno]
#764484 - 07/21/02 11:19 AM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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Going to be Hard...or impossible?
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Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??!! [Re: mushroomaniac]
#764493 - 07/21/02 11:23 AM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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"terrium with cool mist humidifier or using the hydra-pod"
No offence but thats the stupidest question ever! Of course the proven, automated Hyrda-Pod is MUCH, MUCH better than any hand build terrarium could ever be. Hydro-Pod is better than any terr on here except maybe PsilosKube or Moe's because they can hold way more.
Why do you need 50g dry, do you own a dealer money and are paying him back in drugs?
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Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??!! [Re: mushroomaniac]
#764499 - 07/21/02 11:27 AM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nope, end of last semester finals!
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Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??!! [Re: mushroomaniac]
#764507 - 07/21/02 11:29 AM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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>Going to be Hard...or impossible?
If you do everything right, very possible.
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Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??!! [Re: mushroomaniac]
#764509 - 07/21/02 11:30 AM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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You should start preparing your cakes today, though....
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Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??!! [Re: Anno]
#764518 - 07/21/02 11:34 AM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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Agreed...So we are say I need to innocullate 15 jars? How about 5 or 6 1 pint jars?
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Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??!! [Re: mushroomaniac]
#764524 - 07/21/02 11:38 AM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bad idea.
Stick with the half pints.
And make it 20 to be a round number, just in case contamination partially strikes.
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Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??!! [Re: Anno]
#764532 - 07/21/02 11:42 AM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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And we are all aggreing that the pod is a great...sure...way to grow if money is not important
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Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??!! [Re: mushroomaniac]
#764537 - 07/21/02 11:46 AM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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If money is not an issue, it?s apparently a good thing.
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Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??!! [Re: Anno]
#764541 - 07/21/02 11:47 AM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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Oh i didnt read 3-4 weeks. That is very hard for a newb. Colonization, on average takes 14(roughly) days. Thats 2 weeks + 1 week waiting to make sure the inside is colonized. Then you have to dunk then if you want to get anywhere close to 50 dry grams off cakes. You should also cold shock so pinning will start sooner. Then recovering from cold shocking is like 3 days + waiting for pinns which will definetly be 1 week minimum. Also if your conditions are not **PERFECT** to initiate pinning it could take 1 week all the way to 3 weeks. Then waiting for the fruit bodies to mature is 2-5 days. Then harvesting and drying, drying is about 2 days. And unless you have like 30+ cakes 1 flush wont get you 50 dry grams, especially a newbie. So you wait for a second fush which is 1 week roughly. In that week you must dunk+cold shock again. Newbs, such as myself almost NEVER get it all right, i know i definetly didnt!
So thats a MINIMUN of 35 days for the first flush if you get everything absolutly perfect+a little karma and luck. And a more possible time for 1st flush is 45-50 days. Again unless you have 30+ cakes your first flush wont make 50 grams. 2nd flush, same procedure(cold shock, dunk) add another 16 days for dried mature fruits.
That does NOT include buying the equipment or any kind of delay which always happened, even for the super-veterans.
I say its not possible but i say try anyways, and definetly start right now!
Karma and much luck to you,
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Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??!! [Re: Fd3000]
#764545 - 07/21/02 11:50 AM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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>+ 1 week waiting to make sure the inside is colonized.
This is rather optional. I?d put them in the pod as soon they are visibly colonized in this case where the time is an issue.
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Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??!! [Re: Fd3000]
#764547 - 07/21/02 11:51 AM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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35 days for the first flush?! Jeese it's never taken me any where near this...
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Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??!! [Re: Anno]
#764552 - 07/21/02 11:53 AM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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i have a pod...it works great....but it still aint shit compared to some shit...bulk produces way more....but it will be almost imposible to get a bulk project to produce anything in 3 or 4 weeks if your starting from spores. I get about 50 dry grams from 2 flushes of 10 pint size cakes in my hydra pod. But pint size cakes take about 2 1/2 to 3 weeks to colonize.(for me anyways) once the cakes are birthed i normally notice pins in 4-6 days. Fruits mature in about a week.
good luck
p.s. if your using a pod you should order it today.
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Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??!! [Re: BIGSWANG]
#764558 - 07/21/02 11:58 AM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hmm, thanks for the info, can pint jars be double stacked in the pod..is the dome high enough..one more thing, is the pod really a set it and leave it method?
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Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??!! [Re: mushroomaniac]
#764564 - 07/21/02 12:02 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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I dont think you can double stack cakes....you might be able to...theres enough room...but i wouldnt. All you have to do to the hydrapod while your mushrooms are growing is turn a dial at different stages of the mushroom life cycle....so basicly you turn a knob three times and thats it.
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Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??!! [Re: Anno]
#764565 - 07/21/02 12:03 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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In reply to:
If money is not an issue, it?s apparently a good thing.
Nice choice or words 
Mushroomaniac, I am assuming you and a few friends are about to embark(sp?) on a magical trip  . Or at least I hope thats the "situation" you speak of. Either way none of my buisness I guess 
Got a strain in mind or handy? If not get yourself a strain known as a fast colonizer. Keep your temps at optimal conditions for fastest possible results. Hurry things yet be patient at the same time.
Better hope to it! You've got work to do! The clock is ticking. Good luck!
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Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??!! [Re: pleezr]
#764580 - 07/21/02 12:08 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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Exactly what you said, we want to walk down the yellow brick road...my friends have never tried mushies, I'm the only one that knows how it's done and they have all said they will chip in and buy me a pod, it's 25 of them  So I can't let down my friends!
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Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??!! [Re: mushroomaniac]
#764587 - 07/21/02 12:11 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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25 of them...damn...your gonna want to produce more than 50 grams....i would try to produce at least 100...why dont you tell them mo fo's to wait an extra couple of weeks so you can all trip balls.
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Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??!! [Re: BIGSWANG]
#764589 - 07/21/02 12:13 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hmm, I'll follow your idea, maybe 10-12 pint jars will give me more that 50g dry after 3 flush...Damn this shit would make a great grow log!
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Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??!! [Re: mushroomaniac]
#764606 - 07/21/02 12:23 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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if money is not a problem then why dont you just buy that much? ...im just kidding...but whatever you chose to do, and whatever happens, keep us updated. im curioius as to what youre going to get out of this. grow on
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Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??!! [Re: mile69]
#764623 - 07/21/02 12:34 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks for all the help people...for all you guys that offered help...when the EQ's 'strain that I will be using' are cultivate I'll send some fat dark spore prints to the first 20 people that helped out!
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Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??!! [Re: mile69]
#764625 - 07/21/02 12:35 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yes, choosing an optimal strain for your situation is very important! I dont know too many strains but i would say go for GT, overall good strain with big ass fruits. GT's are also very forgiving for mistakes but they arent the fastest colonizers. I would suggest consulting Anno about the strain choice, he seems to know everything about everything that anyone needs to know!
Yes you can double stack cakes in a pod, i read one of Mycotek's posts where he said you can.
"35 days for the first flush?! Jeese it's never taken me any where near this..."
Can you explain that to me?
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Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??!! [Re: Fd3000]
#764672 - 07/21/02 01:04 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??!! [Re: mushroomaniac]
#764717 - 07/21/02 01:32 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well you used a whole syringe for 2 cakes, the entire cake was probable submerged in spore water and it all germinated very fast. Thats thousands of innoculation points, once they all germinate it will only be 1-3 days until its all colonized. Also the brown sugar, my friend tried that with 10 cakes, no luck at all. They all colonized in 16 days and fruited normally  .
So unless you have 15 syringes(assuming you make 30 cakes), with 1 print in each you wont be able to do that again. The brown sugar had no effect on the cakes....
The ORIGINAL PF tek calls for 66 cc's of water( http://www.shroomery.org/findorgrowthem.php?View=docs&doc=15 ). According to your thread you used 1 whole print in 1 syringe and that syringe was used for 2 cakes. That is 5 cc's per cake, thats 1/2 a print for 1 cake. 5 ccs of spore water, 60 cc's of substrate water. That mean 1/12 the amount of water was FULL with spores. Now if you innoculated like everyone else then the spore water was injected high in the cake and trickled down throughout the cake. That would soak the whole cake in spores. They would all germinate at roughly the same time and that would make thousands of innoculation points. That would make the whole cake colonize in 1-3 days.
I'm not trying to prove you wrong or argue with you im just saying it probably wont happen again.
Best of luck on your quest!!
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Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??!! [Re: Fd3000]
#764737 - 07/21/02 01:43 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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1 print for 2 cakes...jesus
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Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??!! [Re: Fd3000]
#764861 - 07/21/02 02:42 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mushroomaniac, check your thread you posted a link too above. I have replyed and I am very confused!!
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 Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??Need 50G Dry!! [Re: mushroomaniac]
#765048 - 07/21/02 03:37 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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If money is not a problem it might be worthwhile to have a
Plan B. I'd suggest at least 4 mycobags and a nice dark
syringe of equador.(incubated until fully colonized) In 28-30
days they shoud produce about a half oz. of shrooms each.
It might be worth mentioning that I got some jars to colonize
in less than a week a while back (april). See this thread: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=Forum2&Number=592906&page=&view=&sb=&o=&fpart=1&vc=1
But I still think the mycobags are more of a sure bet. One slip
with the jars and you could miss your deadline.
Hope that helps!
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Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??!! [Re: BIGSWANG]
#765085 - 07/21/02 03:49 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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pleezr...i don't think using 1 print for 2 cakes are rediculous, I have many EQ Prints and using more spores seem to affect colinization times drastically. I'm not lying about the times, as Fd3000 showed you in the other post. The method I used was cakes birthed on perlite, I did not want to use this method in achieving the 50 dry grams because i think it leaves way too many variables open for flaw...therefore defeating my deadline. But the times I stated in the other thread is a reality.
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Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??Need 50G Dry!! [Re: WakingUpLate]
#765143 - 07/21/02 04:09 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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I strongly, strongly, strongly suggest you dont go with mycobags! Reasons:
1. You have to order it and wait for it to arrive: at least 1 week
2. Mycobags have been known to take up to 2 months to fully colonize: 3 weeks - 8 weeks
3. Mycobags have been known to take forever to pin, a very long time : forever...
Go with cakes, if you work hard enough at it you can probably make it happen, maybe in like 5 weeks though....
If $ is no option buy those suckers!
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Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??Need 50G D [Re: mushroomaniac]
#765195 - 07/21/02 04:20 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??Need 50G D [Re: matts]
#765369 - 07/21/02 05:08 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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Fd, if you were in my position what would you do...buy them or get a pod out of it?
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Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??Need 50G D [Re: mushroomaniac]
#765432 - 07/21/02 05:23 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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I would make the best of the situation. I would definetly buy a pod and start growing, maybe you'll get lucky and make your date but its a long shot....
But i would also talk to a dealer, tell him to save a shit load of dry for me and i will propably buy them in a few weeks. Now hope your dealer is no gun-toating junkie or he'll shoot you if you dont buy.
That way if you dont make your date you can buy them and you will also have a bountiful crop soon after. It's win=win isn't it?
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Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??Need 50G D [Re: mushroomaniac]
#765437 - 07/21/02 05:25 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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get a pod man. the bags are great, but if you plan on growing more than once, go with the pod. especially if ou have the money. you should just innoc 1/2 pint jars, and stack them in the pod (yes stacking them will give you more yield)
it is all automated, just as advertised. you can make your deadline, especially if you have money. just put a lot of spores in each jar and you will have them colinize in about a week, then put in the pod and you will be good to go.
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Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??Need 50G D [Re: indkebr]
#765471 - 07/21/02 05:35 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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indkebr- Doubt it. How could they colonize in 7 days unless he did the same thing as before? He would need like 15 syringes!
Oh ya i forgot to say, if cash in so prob. then order 15 syringes(30 cakes) and a pod. That way you can do the same thing as before. If you had 1/2 a syringe in each cake they would definetly colonize on time. Delivery date+ super-quick colonization+pinning/fruiting in pod= 3-4 weeks, can definetly be done. 30 cakes at oh lets say 5 grams dry each flush is 150 grams. Wow i never calculated that, if you need only 50 g then shoot the cakes down to 10-15 and only order like 7 syringes, saves you cash and is less work to maintain. Scrap everything that was said about 30 cakes, lol.
You could also speed up the shipping time by finding out what vendor is located nearest to you and/or specializing your order to have very fast shipping. I know Mycotek offers 3-5 day delivery and that internation!!
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Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??Need 50G D [Re: indkebr]
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Damn indkebr, first positive comment, yoru like a ray of sunshine on a cloudy day!
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Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??!! [Re: mushroomaniac]
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Personally, I think that when you start off with the outset of "need", that's when the shrooms can burn you. It possibly can be done, even for a newb I guess, in 3-4 weeks. And a hydrapod or a good terr. set-up is definitely the way to go to get there. I agree with Anno - get them inoculated now. You'll need every last minute. Good luck.
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Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??!! [Re: mushroomaniac]
#765535 - 07/21/02 05:53 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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Oh, yeah. And as far as the fastest colonizing and best safe first flush crops, I would choose either a Thai strain or good old B+.
10 cents.
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Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??Need 50G Dry!! [Re: mushroomaniac]
#765575 - 07/21/02 06:03 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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well, im gonna add my .2 cents here, but, if you havent got the spores, and are ordering them, i would make a few jars of orissa india's. if they make the time limit, you could possibly get the shrooms, because of how big they grow. they dont take any longer than most strains to colonize. i just picked 50 grams dry from my first flush of a compost casing. i know ya get more that way, but with more cakes, the bigger shrooms might make a difference. GOOD LUCK,
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Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??Need 50G Dry!! [Re: ChromeCrow]
#765737 - 07/21/02 06:56 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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I read your other thread where you were concerned about contams raping your cakes so i did a little math(my daily limit) for you.
Most dunked cakes get about 6 g dry average from each flush. Lets say you just got 5 g dry off each cake. You would need 10 cakes but contams may claim a few. I would set the goal of 20 cakes, its a lot but if you want to reach your goal then that?s what you gotta do. 20 cakes, lets say you loose 5 to contams you still got your goal in dry weight.
Get 10 syringes if you want to do what you did before, i think some vendors have discounts if you order lots of a product. Go with fastest shipping possible. Also get a pod if you really have that much cash to spair(rich basterd!).
Then you will definitely reach your goal with the super-colonization technique and the pods perfect pinning/fruiting conditions. Also make sure you have a pressure cooker that will cut down on the amount of contams drastically. If not then boiling works with a 100% contam-free rate if you boil for 4 hours, works for my buddy. So overall your deadline is possible if spending like $350 is not a problem.
May karma guide your cakes to a bountiful flush!
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Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??Need 50G Dry!! [Re: Fd3000]
#766108 - 07/21/02 09:06 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dunked cakes get 6g dry total, not per flush.
4g is the average.
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Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??Need 50G Dry!! [Re: merk227]
#768098 - 07/22/02 03:15 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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Its definetly per flush, if it wasnt it would be like 1-2 grams a flush. That means 10-20 grams wet, thats only like 2 meduim size mushrooms per flush!
My friend has also proven this to me by constantly getting no less that 4.5 dry grams per flush....
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Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??Need 50G Dry!! [Re: Fd3000]
#768240 - 07/22/02 03:56 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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Fd- I know he would need a ton of syringes but if he has 25 people involved, and have money, they may be able to afford many syringes =)
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Re: HELP! Hydrapod or Cool-Mist Setup??Need 50G Dry!! [Re: merk227]
#770424 - 07/23/02 11:22 AM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'll jump in.
Somebody asked if 1/2 pint cakes can be stacked in a pod. They can, and in fact I believe mycotek officially encourages it (for gourmet cakes of course).
somebody said a bulk tek wouldn't have a chance of succeeding in time Consider this:
1 spore syringe to 200 ml's of dextrose water. If incubated it can be used in 4 days.
10 Quart jars of millet innoculated with 20 mls of liquid innoculum. If incubated can be colonized in 5 days.
Quart jars could spawn a small amount of straw. If using a small amount (say two 6X6X12" compressed blocks from the hobby store) and chopping the straw, it could be colonized in 5 days with such a high spawn rate.
Straw can be fruited without a casing for one huge flush. Just keep the humidity high. Yield for this example could be estimated at well more than double what he needs.
That's 14 days to pin initiation. Plenty of time left to get the first flush, harvest and dry it.
Now, these are all optimums, and no chance I'd advise a beginner to bet on it. Hell, an advanced cultivator would have to have a well tuned operation to match that timeline. Just wanted to illustrate that it could be done and to show the benefit of practice, if you're good, you can get what you need when you need it!
I'd recomend the pod if you're willing to pay. I'd prepare 24-36 1/2 pints of BRF/verm substrate. After all, you buy them buy the dozen, right? I'd use a total of 2-4ccs per jar. That's anywhere from 4-12 12cc syringes. Colonize jars in light unless growing the PF classic strain, this speeds pinning more than many people admit. Colonize them at 84 deg F.
If you want to try and speed things up as much as possible, and have a plan B, you could use some spore solution to innoculate some dextrose water. In a few days, you could turn 1-2 ccs of spore solution into 200 cc's of liquid innoculate. Use this liquid innoculant to start a back-up set of cakes (which will probably actually colonize first if you do it right). Or try a whole grain. Grains innoculated with dextrose water and incubated colonize amazingly fast. Just depends on how ambitious you want to be, and how many back-up plans you want to have...
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