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Cool Mist setups VS. Poor Mans Pod
    #1899891 - 09/09/03 09:42 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Lil Kush caused my last post to get locked, so i'm making a new one. Let's try and keep the childish BS out of this one ok.

I seem to hear all this talk about Air Entrainment and all the wonderful things it can do, well I want to see results and physical evidence of these theroys. There were also a few other people posting in the last thread that asked for this as well. Now while i'm not doubting these setups work, I do doubt that Cubensis needs all these extra measures to grow to full capacity. I firmly believe a Poor Mans Pod will not outperform a Cool Mist when growing casings, maybe with other strains that demand more technical growing conditions, but not Cubensis. Also, a PMP is manily only designed for Cakes, not casings or Bulk grows due to need for surface area because the humidicication and air exchange come from the floor of the terrerium, not the sides.. so if you put casings in the PMP the bottoms of the trays take up to much area and basically don't allow the setup to function properly because there's not enough room to allow fresh air and humidity to come up through the geolite.. the bottom of the casings block this process. Maybe you could find some way to suspend them in mid air though?

Lets keep this discussion going, and leave the childish banter somewhere else.


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Re: Cool Mist setups VS. Poor Mans Pod [Re: LiL_KuSsH]
    #1900113 - 09/09/03 10:48 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah..  definatly..  and thanks for just proving my point i've been trying to make.  Those cakes look great, I never claimed the PMP couldn't grow great cakes, but when we're talking high yields and more advanced grows cakes aren't included.  It seems some of you have problems keeping the RH above 95% in the cool mist, well you can do that easily by only running it for 5 or 10 minutes every hour, that's all Cubensis needs for air exchange, any more is unecessary.  If you want to run it 24-7 you can still keep it above 95% by misting the walls of the terrerium twice a day.  The high humidity factor is what makes cakes flush heavy, they demand 95% or more..  98-99% is ideal. 

So i'm not talking about cakes here, i'm talking about casings, bulk cultivation and overall yields.  The casing you pictured didn't flush anywhere near to the ones in the pictures I posted.  It looks decent anyway though.  Probably BRF cakes cased i'm assuming.

Lets keep this debate going, it's fun.  :smile:   


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Re: Cool Mist setups VS. Poor Mans Pod [Re: LiL_KuSsH]
    #1900130 - 09/09/03 10:52 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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And I forgot to mention all these pics were after i bought a Digital camera a couple months ago..... U do the math....




Ok, well then send me your camera and i'll take a ton of pictures of my neighbors grows, then i'll send it back to you. haha


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    #1900176 - 09/09/03 11:03 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Sno you just got schooled, accept it, LOL :wink: 


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Re: Cool Mist setups VS. Poor Mans Pod [Re: LiL_KuSsH]
    #1900262 - 09/09/03 11:28 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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All the cakes seem to pin on the side facing the outlet.




Then put an outlet on both sides!


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Re: Cool Mist setups VS. Poor Mans Pod [Re: Snobrdr311]
    #1900269 - 09/09/03 11:29 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Or turn the cakes once a day.

OR USE A PMP!!


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Re: Cool Mist setups VS. Poor Mans Pod [Re: LiL_KuSsH]
    #1900279 - 09/09/03 11:31 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Ok heres a little argument for u...

U have a 7 lb casing (substrate, casing material, etc.) in one hand. In the other you have 7 pounds of cakes.....

Which one will yeild more?





Just about 99% of anyone who posts on here knows the casings will produce about 40 times more.


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Re: Cool Mist setups VS. Poor Mans Pod [Re: TM]
    #1900283 - 09/09/03 11:33 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Or turn the cakes once a day.

OR USE A PMP!!




Or forget cakes altogether and move up to casings and bulk cultivation on grains,compost and dung...what the more advanced growers do because we all know they yields truck loads more and are a much better use of space and time.


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Re: Cool Mist setups VS. Poor Mans Pod [Re: Snobrdr311]
    #1900302 - 09/09/03 11:37 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Ok heres a little argument for u...

U have a 7 lb casing (substrate, casing material, etc.) in one hand. In the other you have 7 pounds of cakes.....

Which one will yeild more?





Just about 99% of anyone who posts on here knows the casings will produce about 40 times more.




You are so fucking wrong, it's sick! Cakes put out just as much as casings if done PROPERLY. Don't believe me? Ask Magash.


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Re: Cool Mist setups VS. Poor Mans Pod [Re: Snobrdr311]
    #1900331 - 09/09/03 11:44 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

ok so i only glanced through this and the previous thread,
but heres my 2 cents... i currently use BOTH a modified pod, and a COOL MIST

you 2 are compareing apples and oranges
the POD is hands down the BEST for smaller scale growing (rubbermaid size) cakes, casings, it dont matter.. it works GREAT! i wish i had a camera to show you my results....
the humidity and air exchange is always perfect.
its easy to build and fairly cheap...

the COOLMIST is the BEST for GREENHOUSE growing... (wallmart or marthastewart etc)
it offers good humidity for LARGE areas, tho in small areas it tends to have a paradoxical effect (in rubbermaids, the moving air tends to dry things out)

my bulk grows all go into the greenhouse and they LOVE it....
my special grows (cyans, oysters, whatever) go into the POD

so there you have it...
the POD and the COOLMIST are both at the TOP of the list as far as terrariums go...
just diffrent classes

if u want to produce on a smaller scale (BRF cakes/casings etc) go with the POD, it produces the BEST results you can get from non-bulk substrates

if you want to produce mulitpul huge fuckin trays of giant mushrooms, then get yourself a greenhouse (realestate becomes an issue when you start using dishpans as casing trays)

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Re: Cool Mist setups VS. Poor Mans Pod [Re: LiL_KuSsH]
    #1900333 - 09/09/03 11:45 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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"It seems some of you have problems keeping the RH above 95% in the cool mist, well you can do that easily by only running it for 5 or 10 minutes every hour, that's all Cubensis needs for air exchange, any more is unecessary"

And actually a running cool mist LOWERS The Rh from 95%.






No Shit, isn't that what I just said?  It's the fan running constant that drops it below 95%, my point was that misting the walls keep it above 95% 24-7 while the cool mist runs constant.  If you run it 5 or 10 minutes every hour the humidity will not drop and will stay at 95% or above all the time.  Casings don't need that much humidity, this is more directed at casings not cakes, remember? 

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"If you want to run it 24-7 you can still keep it above 95% by misting the walls of the terrerium twice a day."

Doesnt This defeat the WHOLE purpose of AUTOMATION?






No, not really, you can't be that lazy to open the lid twice a day and mist, can you?   


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I noticed in your ratings no ones ever rated for your knowledge of growing.......... :laugh:





I thought I asked you to keep the childish banter out of here, please don't get my thread locked again..  This is a debate for grown adults who know how to act like one.  I'm done responding to you, why I even went this far I have no idea. 



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