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Re: Are Self-realised beings ever alone? [Re: circastes]
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circastes said:
To all those Self-realised shroomerites out there




What? Where? :lol:

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Re: Are Self-realised beings ever alone? [Re: c0sm0nautt]
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I realize I have a self


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"Springs of water welling from the fire"

"Life may seem to flee in a moment, but when the mind is freed of the veil of ignorance, and illusion that comes between the mind and the truth, life and death are only opposite sides of the same coin - "water welling from the fire."


"Within us, we carry the world of no-birth and no-death. But we never touch it, because we live only with our notions."
-Thich Nhat Hanh
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"Experience always goes beyond ideas"

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Re: Are Self-realised beings ever alone? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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MarkostheGnostic said:
We are mostly introverts at this forum. I have fine rapport with others, including adolescents and animals. You seem to be identifying with your generational idiosyncrasies. Generation X, or are you a Millennial? I am a Baby Boomer. My parents didm't phone an employer of college admissions office to question why I wasn't accepted. I have inadvertently benefitted from being a white, middle class American born in the 1950s, grown up during the turbulent 60s, and come of age in the 1970s. I have in fact been entitled, but I never self-consciously experienced myself as being superior or entitled to anything I didn't earn. The world is competitive. I was fortunate enough to have held the same job for almost 27 years! Unprecedented, and no longer a possibility in this generation. But I am speaking to us as Homo Ludens, 'man as player,' but not in the modern sense of womanizer.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_ludens ; I 'play' at being a meditator, yogi, alchemist, or scholar. I do not derive any material benefit from these things, in fact, these conform to the 5 characteristics in the book Homo Ludens. Before responding to you, I knew only the term, I didn't even realize there was a book that originated it, and I don't mean to derail this thread by going on a tangent, but:

Characteristics of play:

1. Play is free, is in fact freedom.
2. Play is not “ordinary” or “real” life.
3. Play is distinct from “ordinary” life both as to locality and duration.
4. Play creates order, is order. Play demands order absolute and supreme.
5. Play is connected with no material interest, and no profit can be gained from it.

Work 'friends' have not usually turned out to be real friends, but maybe that is just my karmic predicament. I am more 'serious' about play than about climbing a corporate ladder or about raising a family, the two most important Freudian motivations "love and work." Of course I've had to work for a living, but I remained content to stay in a position that was 'playful' to a large extent. I was free to work with kids without the strict guidelines of say, being a classroom teacher, whose milieu I worked in. I have become spoiled work wise. I lost my enjoyable position and would rather face financial loss now than lose my freedom to 'play' counselor and become a classroom teacher for the first time. No way! :eek: By play I do not mean anything other than The Master Game in action. Helping kids has been serious business, although clearly, it was not always grave business (e.g., abuse, death, crisis), but I could be free and spontaneous in work.

So, here, I am talking about playing nicely with each other, and if that skill has not been taught, it could certainly be learned from those who know how to share, and to take turns. It's like that book Everything I Need to Know I Learned in Kindergarten.




Millennial. I wiki'd it :lol:


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Why shouldn't the truth be stranger than fiction?
Fiction, after all, has to make sense. -- Mark Twain

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Re: Are Self-realised beings ever alone? [Re: Kickle]
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We both learned something through this interaction. I bought the book Homo Ludens from Abe Books. :grin:


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γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself

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