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In general, do humans behave in a state of evilness?
    #1806441 - 08/12/03 06:06 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: In general, do humans behave in a state of evilness? [Re: World Spirit]
    #1806484 - 08/12/03 06:13 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Depends on how you raise them when they are kids. If you bring them up in this society, there is a higher chance of them being aggressive and more violent, but not necessarily morally bad. If you want to throw morals into the problem, you have to go through the process of defining morality and setting limits and making moral decisions to cover all sorts of situations. Pretty impractical.

I think there's good/evil or positive/negative, whatever you want to call it, in most people. I guess the factors that determine this part of you are probably just as variable and numerous as the factors that determine, say, your personality.


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Re: In general, do humans behave in a state of evilness? [Re: World Spirit]
    #1806486 - 08/12/03 06:14 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

well, the main priority in life is to survive, and advance oneself, so acting 'selfish' or doing 'bad' things for ones advancement, is probably smart.


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Re: In general, do humans behave in a state of evilness? [Re: SHiZNO]
    #1806494 - 08/12/03 06:16 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Not only smart...but morally justifiable at that! There is only postive and negative...both are needed, and i don't think any sole being is one or the other....despite your interpretations of thier actions.


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Re: In general, do humans behave in a state of evilness? [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1806539 - 08/12/03 06:28 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Not only smart...but morally justifiable at that! There is only postive and negative...both are needed, and i don't think any sole being is one or the other....despite your interpretations of thier actions.




come on man, of course there are combo's of +/- that are "good" and "evil", they are seperate categories.


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Re: In general, do humans behave in a state of evilness? [Re: World Spirit]
    #1806546 - 08/12/03 06:30 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: In general, do humans behave in a state of evilness? [Re: Malachi]
    #1806565 - 08/12/03 06:34 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Distiguishable yes....but you can't have one without the other.


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Re: In general, do humans behave in a state of evilness? [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1806577 - 08/12/03 06:38 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Enter,

I think that's at least partially because the people who are in power and govern bad/not great countries are not good rulers. Or because their economy is shot, or because they have other social problems for them to work on. A great example of a not-so-great leader would be, of course, Hitler.

Do the really "bad" leaders get corrupted because they are in power, or are they corrupted from the beginning? Or is it both? If in every case they are corrupted after they receive power, could you say that power is a bad thing? If so, what about the 'good' rulers of countries that are prosperous?


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Re: In general, do humans behave in a state of evilness? [Re: World Spirit]
    #1806676 - 08/12/03 07:06 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Looking at humanity as a whole, I would say that it's impossible to sum it all up into "evil" or "not evil". Neither would you be able to identify our whole race as "positive" or "negative", although I think those terms are better than good and evil, but I'll use good and evil because that's how some people understand these two forces. Which is fine of course.

There are people who think and act evilly, there are people who think evilly and do not act upon their evil thoughts, and I do not "believe", but "know" that there are people, some of them in groups, who are nothing but positive, happy, loving and evolving people.

To say that humanity is inherently evil would be unfair to these people, if you ask me! There are all kinds of good and evil movements on this planet. Like it's been said, one can't really exist without the other, therefore good and evil are both necessary... and therefore evil itself is not really... EVIL!

It's not a question of good or bad, morally right or wrong, it's a question of balance and necessity.

We shouldn't even condemn those who act evilly. Good needs evil to grow and evolve, and evil needs good for the exact same reason.

It seems that whether your path in life be good or evil, you are learning in one way or another, so looking at the big picture, it doesn't really matter whether you are evil or not, because you're doing yourself, and the good people of this planet a favour.

Some of this I know for sure, the rest are just thoughts.


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Re: In general, do humans behave in a state of evilness? [Re: World Spirit]
    #1806825 - 08/12/03 08:00 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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In general, do humans behave in a state of evilness?




In general, I would say no as each person behaves differently. Evil (as you put it) to me, translates into Human error, which I don't see as inherently evil. Humans, act like humans. Whatever that means.


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