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Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil.
    #720501 - 07/03/02 03:25 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

I know that alot of you in this forum talk about the greys and/or other non-terrestrial beings. I have read a document that is supposedly an interview with an army official that admits the existance of the greys and two other species of non-terrestrials. In this he says that the USA made a pact with the greys, only later to find out that they are more "evil" than the other two groups, all of which are currantly at war with each other....

here is the link to the full article:
http://www.totse.com/en/religion/miscellaneous_religious_texts/brant010.html

Also, out of curiosity, sense it seems you like to talk aboot it, are the greys involved in any way/shape/form with the supposed "Clthuthu"?

Thoughts anyone?


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invoke the shadows and dust, cast a hex
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relocate from Ur to 8th density and become a cosmic bully
mulder and scully couldn't decipher his glyphs
invoke the shadows and dust, smoke infernal spliffs"
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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #720538 - 07/03/02 03:46 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks Larrry,
I wasn't paranoid enough.
-OoD


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #720569 - 07/03/02 04:02 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #720616 - 07/03/02 04:39 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Greys = evil? This is more cultural color bias.


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: Swami]
    #720617 - 07/03/02 04:40 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

mmmm.... ok, looking at it like that, it does sound bad...
but it's not like I am comparing them to the darkies....


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verily scary when thoroughly vexed
invoke the shadows and dust, cast a hex
mercifully massacring memories masterfully
relocate from Ur to 8th density and become a cosmic bully
mulder and scully couldn't decipher his glyphs
invoke the shadows and dust, smoke infernal spliffs"
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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #720708 - 07/03/02 05:41 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Thoughts anyone?

Sounds like a good basis for an outlandish Sci-fi T.V. series. What should we call it... how about "The Roswell Files." No, too close to the name of that James Garner series. Until we can come up with a better name we'll just call it, "The X Files." I'll write up a pilot and have my agent submit it to FOX, they like to try different things...


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #720882 - 07/03/02 07:15 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Serpent people, eh?
What are the Clthuthu?


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: ]
    #720961 - 07/03/02 07:48 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, stupid Fox! Doh!


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: Swami]
    #720967 - 07/03/02 07:51 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Grays, nah, they're OK! Now the Shinys, they're not to be trusted! Especially with teenage girls.


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: GRTUD]
    #720993 - 07/03/02 08:01 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

I thought we weren't supposed to trust the Swamis with teenage girls.


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: Adamist]
    #721023 - 07/03/02 08:11 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

What are the Clthuthu?

cthulhu is a giant squid god who lives in a sunken temple waiting for his loyal followers to awaken him so that he can eat humanity and enslave his followers. he was created by h.p. lovecraft, who wrote a bunch of books based around the cthulhu mythos. he has also spawned cthulhu t-shirts (one of which i own - "Miskatonic University: home of the fighting cephalopods - Go Pods!"), a role-playing game, bumper stickers, a "Cthulhu For President" campaign (motto: why vote for the lesser evil?), and who knows what else. also a few metallica songs. he also wrote a fictional magic book called the necronomicon, which is supposed to be based upon a real necronomicon written by an arabian sorcerer. you can buy a few necronomicons from amazon.com, though i wouldn't count on being able to summon giant monsters with them. hope that answers your question.


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: Amoeba665]
    #721041 - 07/03/02 08:15 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

And here I thought they were creatures looking for a vowel. Go figure!


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: Amoeba665]
    #721131 - 07/03/02 08:50 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

no that isn't correct.

the clthuthu are a race of elder gods from space. They were popularized by H. P. Lovecraft, and a fictionalized necronomicon was then published by Crowly...


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invoke the shadows and dust, cast a hex
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relocate from Ur to 8th density and become a cosmic bully
mulder and scully couldn't decipher his glyphs
invoke the shadows and dust, smoke infernal spliffs"
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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #721161 - 07/03/02 09:02 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Also, I don't know if it is fair or not to label them as pure fantasy either.... it seems there is a 50-50 split on that arguement....


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verily scary when thoroughly vexed
invoke the shadows and dust, cast a hex
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relocate from Ur to 8th density and become a cosmic bully
mulder and scully couldn't decipher his glyphs
invoke the shadows and dust, smoke infernal spliffs"
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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #721211 - 07/03/02 09:28 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Larry...there is something that I must make you aware of. In the 4th density, which is the frequency these grey beings reside at...there is two ways of life. There is no inbetween or grey area... you are either one or the other. It is required to live in that density. It is clear cut, black and white.

What this is, is a life orientation. This is a decision every being above 3rd density must make in order to ascend. This decision is whether one lives life serving others, or serving themselves. The difference between the two is quite apparent.

The service-to-other group, spends life focusing on the needs of those around them. They do consider themselves of course, their basic needs... but they spend most of their time helping other people. The service-to-other generally live together, and as they each help each other, the whole group benefits and no one is left in the cold. Everyone helps each other. This life orientation is based on love, respect, acceptance, and wisdom.

The service-to-self group, spends life focusing on themselves. This is a group based on the individual rather than the group. Everyone is only concerned about their own needs, and would do anything to get above another person. These groups are generally malevolent, and will be rather quick to decieve and leave someone in the cold. This life orientation is based on fear, manipulation, power over others, anger, etc...

Now one attracts what one sends out. If you send out a call for power over others, greed, and the wanting of money.. do you think this will attract the service-to-other group or service-to-self? When the US government first came into contact with these beings in the late 40s, their intentions were not pure. They were in the game for world power, and they wanted control over their populace. This attracted the service-to-self greys to come and make like friends with them. They offered technology in exchange for human tissue samples and donor eggs for their hybrid program.

Now the greys upheld their part of the bargain, but when they found out that these government officials were planning to kill them and take their ships, they turned their backs on them.

The moral of this story is... just like how we live in the 3rd density, there is "evil" and there is "good". Except in the 4th density, there is no inbetween... you are either one or the other. You aren't evil one day and decide to be nice the next. That is a luxury we have in this density, not above. In the 4th density, the good and evil form groups and they stick to their groups. They do not mix together.

Just as there are "evil" (service-to-self) grey aliens. There are "good" (service-to-other) greys. In fact, the service-to-self beings are the minority. They make up about 10% of the populace. It just so happens that the group that interacts with the human contacts is completely dependant on the humans. Evil human draws evil aliens. Service-to-other beings interact as little as possible with the service-to-self. This is because service-to-other beings give energy expecting to receive in return... and service-to-self take as much energy as possible and never return any. It is a waste of energy and time for service-to-others to interact with service-to-self, as the STS have chosen to take their own path, spiritually speaking, and so they rely on themselves and no one else to help them. They do not care about anyone but themselves. The STO care about every other STO being. As a service-to-other being helping another service-to-other being is a win/win situation.

I hope this makes some form of sense. I am a bit intoxicated right now by the poisonous alcohol.

Oh yeah and for those of you who are going to sing the same old song and dance and tell me how I live in a fantasy world...this is a fuck you in advance. No I do not have proof of this, and I will not waste my time trying to prove my point. If you don't care to hear my words, don't read them. I speak only from experience, I do not base my life on books or websites I have read. If you hsve an alternate opinion, please share it. But don't waste my time insulting me, I will not reply.


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: ]
    #721255 - 07/03/02 09:47 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

thanx
I knew I would get something interesting from YOU.


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"larry the scary rex
verily scary when thoroughly vexed
invoke the shadows and dust, cast a hex
mercifully massacring memories masterfully
relocate from Ur to 8th density and become a cosmic bully
mulder and scully couldn't decipher his glyphs
invoke the shadows and dust, smoke infernal spliffs"
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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: ]
    #721260 - 07/03/02 09:49 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

...this is a fuck you in advance...

Folks, can you feel that higher density love pouring down? A Service-to-Others "Fuck you!" is so much warmer than a Service-To-Self "Fuck You!"

Only highly attuned minds can discern the subtle difference.


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: Swami]
    #721271 - 07/03/02 09:52 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

LOL

thats funny. I guess that would be the grey zone, huh?


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"larry the scary rex
verily scary when thoroughly vexed
invoke the shadows and dust, cast a hex
mercifully massacring memories masterfully
relocate from Ur to 8th density and become a cosmic bully
mulder and scully couldn't decipher his glyphs
invoke the shadows and dust, smoke infernal spliffs"
April 24th 2011


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #721276 - 07/03/02 09:57 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Cthulhu isn't a race of beings in Lovecraft's work. He is a dreaming god asleep on the bottom of the ocean. I've read probably all of his stories.


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: Swami]
    #721279 - 07/03/02 09:57 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Glad you can tell the difference.



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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #721292 - 07/03/02 10:03 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

I guess that would be the grey zone, huh?

Indeed that is the grey zone I was reffering to. If I was completely service-to-other, 100% right now, I probably would never say such a thing. However I am still in the 3rd density, so I am at liberty of experimenting with the two groups. If I want to be evil and fucked up then so be it. Fuck you all. I love you.


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: vkk_]
    #721296 - 07/03/02 10:05 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

I believe you are referring to Tiamat, he is one of the clthuthu deamons, said to be half dead, asleep in the ocean, much like the taimat of babylonian mythology or the levithan of christainity.


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"larry the scary rex
verily scary when thoroughly vexed
invoke the shadows and dust, cast a hex
mercifully massacring memories masterfully
relocate from Ur to 8th density and become a cosmic bully
mulder and scully couldn't decipher his glyphs
invoke the shadows and dust, smoke infernal spliffs"
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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: ]
    #721395 - 07/03/02 10:39 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

ok shroomism i have a sort of problem with this service-to-self/service-to-others pick a side and then be stuck with it business.

have you heard of the "mahayana" and "theravada" (or "hinayana") schools of buddhist thought?

"theravada" means "teachings of the elders" because the people who follow this school (originally in india, these days mostly in thailand, sri lanka, cambodia, and burma) believe they are following the original teachings as they were set down by a big conference of folks about 300 years after the buddha died. theravada buddhism is focused almost completely upon personal meditation, that is, purifying one's own mind in order to achieve enlightenment, in this lifetime, through one's own efforts. like the buddha did.

"mahayana" means "greater vehicle" (while "hinayana" means "lesser vehicle", this is the name given to theravada schools by the mahayana advocates after the split). in this school of thought the ideal is not the arhat ("one who has defeated all enemies") but the bodhisattva - one who refuses to achieve complete enlightenment, in order to stay on and help all other living beings get there too.

now to me these both seem like great ideals, except that in countries where the mahayana schools are dominant the common people end up praying to hundreds and thousands of different bodhisattvas they think are living in some special heavens, asking for help, while in the theravada countries most people accept that they will not become enlightened in this lifetime since they just don't have time to do the work required (vipassana meditation).

now isn't one of these ways "service-to-self" and the other "service-to-others"? and can you really say that one of these is "evil" or even "wrong"?

what about impermanence? if nothing ever remains the same (and it really seems to me that this is true), and everything is simply a flow, constant change, then how can this rule of choosing sides and either being one or the other with no in-betweens also be true?

remember also that with us un-enlightened folks what we may think is "service-to-other" is really "service-to-self" with a thin layer of pretty wrapping paper on top to make it look nice. rich people donating money to charities, like me setting up "The TRAVELLER's institue for poor orphans" with a big statue of ME, the benevolent founder of the institue, just so no one forgets how good and wonderful and nice a person i am. again it seems to me that MOST "service-to-others" that goes on among humans is really just people trying to make themselves feel better, by "helping" other people.

so truly selfless (that is, not selfish, not motivated by greed or desire, even on a subconscious level) acts are really quite rare, and declaring "I shall hencforth only serve others and do nothing for my own gain" will really not mean anything, unless the person declaring it has "defeated all the enemies" of greed, desire, attachment, lust, anger.....etc (it's a long list).

and it seems to me that in order to reach this incredible state of being one needs to behave in a manner that could only be called "service-to-self".

dividing the universe into good and evil? are you serious?


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: Traveller]
    #721450 - 07/03/02 11:03 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

I don't mean to call either one good or evil, as those are polairites which really only exist in our dimensions. But they do exist, and they both exist for a reason. It's balance. And the service-to-other and service-to-self orientation is only for the 4th density, above that you are just consciousness in light form or one with the universe. But in the 3rd density, which we live in, almost everyone sees things as being good or bad, left or right...polarities...so I present it as such so people can understand it.

Service-to-self doesn't mean evil, it serves just as much a part in the scheme of things as service-to-other...one is not better than another. They both serve a purpose. I really try to avoid labelling one group as good and one as evil, but sometimes that is what it comes down to. What would be a better way, would be to say one is a fear-based way of living, and another is a love-based way of living. Mind you this is only in the 4th density. There are lessons of each density, and the 4th happens to be living in one of the two orientations. This is not the complete way of the Universe, merely a fraction of it. But you can see that these two forces balance each other out.

Being service-to-other does not mean donating money to charity or appearing to be a nice person. It is a decision from within the SOUL. It is a way of life, not an appearance. It means helping people when they need help because you sincerely care about their well-being. It means considering other people's feelings, equal to, or even above your own. Sure, a person can donate millions of dollars to charity, but does this make them service-to-other? No of course not. What makes a person service-to-other or service-to-self is the way they CHOOSE to live. Serving others through genuine emotion and compassion, or serving yourself through greed and deception of others. Certainly there are people in this dimension that POSE as service-to-others, when they are really service-to-self at heart. This is the way it is in the 3rd density. In the 4th density, this does not occur. This type of deception is not possible there, and everyone is seen for what they truly are. Service-to-self act like STS, and STO act like STO.

Being service-to-other does not mean you ONLY focus on other people. You have to consider yourself, your own well-being, your own spiritual growth. But what seperates the two groups is that one considers other people's health, well-being, and spiritual growth, while the other only considers their own, and will put others at misery to increase their position.

Seeking enlightenment does not make one a service-to-self. One must always consider themselves in the equation... but a service-to-other person will consider other people as well as themselves, and make a decision based on what they think would be the best for all parties involved. Whereas a service-to-self person couldn't care less about what happens to anyone else... they are only interested in how they can benefit, even if it means taking advantage of someone else. And it usually does.

I don't mean to say one is evil or one is good. Evil and good are based on perspective anyway. Lets just say they both serve a purpose.


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: ]
    #721458 - 07/03/02 11:09 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

are you saying emotions exist different in the fourth?


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: nugsarenice]
    #721461 - 07/03/02 11:12 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

What do you mean?

Emotions are emotions...
Perhaps we may perceive and process them differently in the 4th density..
But they are still emotions


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    #721466 - 07/03/02 11:14 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

I just thought you were trying to imply that the 4th is more peaceful,, which I disagree with.


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: nugsarenice]
    #721476 - 07/03/02 11:19 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Peace is a state of mind

I don't think the 4th is any more peaceful than the 3rd... maybe we are able to comprehend a bit more... but there is still problems to solve... and resistance to overcome.. its just a different plane of learning.

This is the Universal classroom. The 3rd density and the 4th density are just different grades in high school. If you don't learn enough in the 3rd density to move on to the 4th... you will stay there until you learn enough to move on. No level is better (or more peaceful) than another...they are just different levels of understanding and learning. You learn something and can comprehend it... you move on to the next lesson.


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #721478 - 07/03/02 11:20 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

How much Lovecraft have you read?


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: ]
    #721479 - 07/03/02 11:20 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

just wondering.


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: vkk_]
    #721484 - 07/03/02 11:26 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

I have never read any of lovecraft actually....


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: ]
    #721784 - 07/04/02 03:09 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Can I be Molder ? please please


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: LOBO]
    #721835 - 07/04/02 05:05 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: LOBO]
    #721850 - 07/04/02 05:52 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Yes, but you should know that I'm negotiating with Swami to play Scully.


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: ]
    #721900 - 07/04/02 06:59 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

"You sir, are no Scully." *From a presidential debate*


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #722952 - 07/04/02 07:21 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Dude... you should, his stuff is really good.


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: ]
    #723631 - 07/04/02 10:43 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

This is the Universal classroom. The 3rd density and the 4th density are just different grades in high school. If you don't learn enough in the 3rd density to move on to the 4th... you will stay there until you learn enough to move on. No level is better (or more peaceful) than another...they are just different levels of understanding and learning. You learn something and can comprehend it... you move on to the next lesson.

Damn. Generally speaking I spent my school days trying to suss out the best price for reefer while sitting in the back of the room. This does not look good for me


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: ]
    #724058 - 07/05/02 04:25 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Well as long as he puts on a blond wig, I am all for it!


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: ]
    #725819 - 07/06/02 04:11 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Okay, shroomism, this is not a personal attack, so hear me out for a sec. okay??

Now first off, what your talking about is scientology right? My question is, how did anyone become prive to this information, a book under a rock or something? How can you honestly say that as humans we would understand the idiosyncrasies of a culture that is so far advanced and so different? Observation of something so alien would be immensely difficult, yet you seem to have all the answers, my question is, why are you so sure? Service to self, service to others, they all seem like they are put through a human brain, wait because they are. How do you know the societal structure of something you have never seen or do not see on a daly basis to make such broad generalizations of their character?

I think good and evil are human terms, made by us for various reasons, but the most overriding one in my mind is the allowance for justification by means of calling your opposition evil, making you inherently good. Our human terms might not be usefull in defining something that is not human.

I think when dealing with any intelligence that is so different from ours we must keep in incredibly open mind. Hold on, they might not be *just* like us. And there trappings *might* be incredible different then ours.


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: shroomerylurker]
    #725892 - 07/06/02 06:22 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Here's an interesting site

http://www.zetatalk.com


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: ]
    #726176 - 07/06/02 10:35 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Interesting if you like disinformation?

If so, then this site is much better: http://subgenius.com/


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    #726287 - 07/06/02 12:02 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

I recently visited www.zetatalk.com after Shroomism posted a link to it and I must conclude that it is indeed an interesting site. After reading the brief and (unintentionally?) humorous intro, I headed straight to the zetatalk accuracy page.

?JFK?
Prior to July, 1995 ZetaTalk stated that JFK was Assassinated because he was going to tell the public about UFO's and the alien presence. In May and June, 2000 an interview with Jim Marrs was published, supporting this and referring to Memos supporting these Zeta statements.
What do you make of the theory that Kennedy was assassinated because he intended to release information on the UFO phenomenon?
I have come across a lot of evidence to support this. For example, there is a 1962 CIA document that records the contents of a wire-tapped conversation between Marilyn Monroe and Hollywood reporter Dorothy Kilgallen two days before Monroe died. During the call, Monroe tells Kilgallen that JFK had told her of his visit to a secret air base where he viewed things from outer space.


This right away assured me that I was getting the real deal from these alien beings who have nothing better to do than to communicate with a website. Jim Marrs is the author of the JFK book Crossfire and incase you haven?t read this book, it lays out literally every possible scenario of the assassination, no matter how ridiculous, and this theory can be added to that list. If one were to take the theories laid out in the book at face value, everyone on Nov. 22, 1963 in Dallas would have been involved in the shooting! As well, zetatalk fails to provide this CIA document thus adding to its unlikelihood. However, pretending it does exist, who bases a JFK theory on what Marilyn Monroe says, especially to a Hollywood reporter?

?Bin Laden?(This one had me literally laughing out loud)
During the Mar 16, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session, the Zetas stated:
(NancyL) ZT: The War on Terrorism is a loss, Bin Laden not only not dead but his network hardly damaged, as renewed activity on the terrorists part will soon reveal.
On March 25, 2002 CNN reported a new email from Bin Laden, confirmed to be in his writing style and considered by the intel organization to be a living Bin Laden, condeming the most recent failure of Israel and Palestinian negotiations. Bin Laden alive and well!


Anyone who reads a newspaper at least once a week(maybe less) could tell you that Bin Laden has yet to be captured or found dead and that infact al qaeda is reforming. Just to think, if I had emailed zetatalk.com on March 15, I?d be a psychic and smarter than aliens!

?2001 Predictions?
? Food prices will rise or there will be shortages in the stores, unless governments step in with price freezes and forced disbursal of goods to the populace. Starvation, already occurring in many countries, will increase, but the starving will have less of a voice as time goes on, and be increasingly ignored.

Hmmmmm, food prices on the rise, an incredible and awe-inspiring revelation. Unless serious serious actions are taken to reduce starvation(which I?ve yet to see), it will continue to spread and get worse, no rocket science thinking required there. If only those starving families had cell phones or possibly their own TV sitcom show depicting their daily life, their voice would be heard!

?.The economic drain from disasters affects individuals and their ability to work, villages and cities and their ability to provide services, and corporations that are dependent upon customers?.

Sure, corporations need customers to thrive however customers weren?t needed for the Enron, Imclone, World.com scandals to occur nor did the CEO?s need customers to get away with millions. However, the aliens failed to see these incidents or if did, didn?t feel they were important.

When the response of a given government is less than what the populace has come to expect, there will be protests or riots, depending upon the culture. Strong arm tactics will increase, jailing the protesters and creating curfews or travel restrictions.

Bad government oppresses people, people get fed up leads to strikes, riots, protests. Government fearing loss of power jails the protestors and sometimes assassinates one of the leading voices. This has happened throughout history, why should 2001 be any different. The prediction even fails to address any specific place or people, though no surprise there.

Incase there were any zetatalk believers left, your space buddies failed to predict the event much of the world deemed the most significant event of 2001. Something involving planes flying into buildings, terrorism, the aforementioned bin laden, and people buying flags like there were no tomorrow.

Sorry for the very long post, but I found the site to be a disservice to any human being and yet people eat up this blatant propaganda/disinformation crap daily. Now I must go and pick up my Globe magazine, they have a follow up to bat boy running the country!






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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #727212 - 07/06/02 08:46 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

depending upon who you read there are the reptilean forms, the annunaki, the greys and others, some ar ebelived to have come from differnet stars in differnt constellation some tim eago, start in bablylonia, the kings wee thought o have lived 10-18k years and were reptilean in form , only th elevite priest were able to communicate with them. There is a proposed explanation for the missing link, homo erectus became homo sapines about 250,000 years ago and went from a small brain to a very large brain, some believ this was because of a hybrid mx with a visitor, if on ebelives in evolution, why if homo erectus was around for 1 million years di all of asudden i a short period of tim edevelop the capability of evoloving into homo sapines, then homo spaines to homo spaiens sapiens in the lst 15k years or so is thought agin to be a hybrid form. som ebelieve that Moses had a reptilean hybrid and he was ashamed when his kids saw him naked and saw the tell-tale sign of the scales on hi schest.


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: llib]
    #727553 - 07/06/02 11:21 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

llib- What the fuck? Damn Florida education system....

I apologize to everyone who might have read the post immediately preceding mine. Seriously, I'd rather go through Chinese water torture than "read" that mess.


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: Sclorch]
    #728293 - 07/07/02 05:44 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

*drip* *drip* *drip*


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: llib]
    #728940 - 07/07/02 12:10 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Llib, where did you get that information? Any links would be appreciated.


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: Adamist]
    #729077 - 07/07/02 01:07 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Adamist
i replied to you via an email response hope you got it. there is a long list of books and one good link site

yes, i ahve felt the quickening, started in 1994 for me and has been getting stronger and stronger.

example: i was getting my hair cut on 9/11, girl tells another girl , a plane hit the world trade center, didnt say how big what kind ect, no radio no television, dont know why but i felt and then said outloud....there will be others, new immediately it was a terrorist attack, almost like a windo wopned

example2: tulum for new years 2000
felt immense quickenings, some very good some very very very bad
worse evil i have ever felt at one point and then it cleared

found out later that there were multiple apocalyptic satanic mexican groups camped out on the beach, didnt know beforehnad but felt it

do you think the quickening has anything to do with the increase in the number and frequency of sun spots? solar flares?



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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: llib]
    #729260 - 07/07/02 02:29 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

In reply to:

do you think the quickening has anything to do with the increase in the number and frequency of sun spots? solar flares?



Yes I was just discussing that with a friend...
I have recieved no email yet, did you send it to Adamist@aol.com?


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: llib]
    #729322 - 07/07/02 02:56 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

example: i was getting my hair cut on 9/11, girl tells another girl , a plane hit the world trade center, didnt say how big what kind ect, no radio no television, dont know why but i felt and then said outloud....there will be others, new immediately it was a terrorist attack, almost like a windo wopned

(Too bad it wasn't like a dictionary opening.) When I saw the plane hit, I said,"Oh my God! They are all dead!" I was in a crowded poker parlor. Someone else commented, "Of course they are dead. No one could survive that." I replied "That's not what I meant. I mean everyone in the floors above the plane crash is now dead they just don't know it yet."

About 15 minutes later I again said,"Oh My God!" as a light when on in my head. "All of the rescue workers at the base will be killed." "What are you talking about?" another asked. "The building will collapse!" I shouted. "Impossible!" someone retorted. "No, the explosion, the crash, and extreme heat from the fuel will weaken the steel structure. With that much weight above the point of impact, any structural flaw will cause it to come down like a house of cards."

Two minutes later, to our collective horror, the unthinkable happened.

Am I making this up? No.

Did I have a "quickening" (whatever the hell THAT is?)? No.

I have an engineering mind. That is all.


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: Swami]
    #729374 - 07/07/02 03:21 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Hehe...
Swami you've read some McKenna, you should be familiar with his theories.

Excerpt from 2012 Unlimited
"Time is actually speeding up (or collapsing). For thousands of years the Schumann Resonance or pulse (heartbeat) of Earth has been 7.83 cycles per second, The military have used this as a very reliable reference. However, since 1980 this resonance has been slowly rising. It is now over 12 cycles per second! This means there is the equalivant of less than 16 hours per day instead of the old 24 hours."

"As we move into the fourth dimension we are experiencing a shift in consciousness. The fourth dimension is more a state of mind than an actual place. When you are living your life with all of your chakras wide open, and all of those around you are experiencing life in the same way, it will be in the fourth dimension.
Discernment applied to different sources of information is becoming of paramount importance.
The many agendas for Planet Earth and its inhabitants come from many sources and some are published in the media. Various extraterrestrial sources are talking about many possible scenarios to take place within the next 5 to 10 years. Some are talking about government DNA and mind control, the New World Order by 2003, annihilation from negative ETs etc. Some are talking about the Ascension (Rapture) of many of us, together with Planet Earth, possibly helped by the positive ETs. All these scenarios are possible, depending on your own reality. The message is to follow your heart, your gut feelings and intuition, not your intellect. Be discerning with the feelings and information you process. Does it resonate with you? Work towards healing the planet and yourself and say no to those who wish to control us."

I don't necessarily agree with all of this information but this may provide you with a basic idea of what I refer to as "the Quickening".


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: Adamist]
    #729403 - 07/07/02 03:36 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

For thousands of years the Schumann Resonance or pulse (heartbeat) of Earth has been 7.83 cycles per second,
Huh? Please show a thousand year old text that mentions this.

This means there is the equalivant of less than 16 hours per day instead of the old 24 hours."
The rotation of the Earth is actually slowing, meaning that days are becoming slightly longer.

Your last paragraph describing the quickening is a mish-mash of ideas that does NOT give me an idea of what you mean by the Quickening.

The only Quickening I am familiar with is the pace at which our scientific / technological knowledge base is increasing. The rest of which you speak is unverifiable fluff.



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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: Swami]
    #729457 - 07/07/02 04:23 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

In reply to:

The only Quickening I am familiar with is the pace at which our scientific / technological knowledge base is increasing.



This goes hand-in-hand with the rest of our evolution. You forgot the pace at which we are mentally, emotionally, and spiritually evolving. Oh, those aren't "verifyable" to you, I forgot.


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: Adamist]
    #729558 - 07/07/02 05:23 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I forgot nothing. More human beings were killed by other human beings in the last century than in the rest of history. How is that indicative of a spiriutal awakening?

The prepeated scandals on Wall Street sepak of ever increasing greed and self interest not expanded thinking.

The repeated ad hominems by the believers on this board is indicative of emotional maturity?


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: Swami]
    #729611 - 07/07/02 05:47 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

To consider yourself bettered do you not have to go through the worst?


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    #729816 - 07/07/02 07:10 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Swami, for a good understanding of the Quickening, I suggest that you watch the Highlander movies.


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: Adamist]
    #729991 - 07/07/02 08:30 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I am feeling the quickening. Exponential growth.


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: ]
    #730085 - 07/07/02 09:23 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I am feeling the quickening. Exponential growth.
So... bacterial colonies experience this as well?
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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: Sclorch]
    #730090 - 07/07/02 09:25 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I'm not a bacterial colony, but I would venture to say yes.


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    #730111 - 07/07/02 09:35 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Part of you is many bacterial colonies... your bowels. Maybe the "quickening" feeling is coming from them. From what I understand about bacteria, if they are given more food, their numbers keep increasing. I guess that means that the more full of shit you are, the more intense that "quickening" feeling must be.


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: Sclorch]
    #730123 - 07/07/02 09:40 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

LOL


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: Sclorch]
    #730131 - 07/07/02 09:42 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Life feeds life feeds life feeds life

Perhaps if you stopped being a jerk, others would love you for the misunderstood asshole within.


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    #730157 - 07/07/02 09:49 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I'm not looking for followers.


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: ]
    #730220 - 07/07/02 10:13 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Am not sure about "The Quickening", but occasionally feel "The Hardening".


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: Swami]
    #730237 - 07/07/02 10:21 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

You too, eh?


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: Sclorch]
    #730501 - 07/08/02 05:06 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Well, that STS and STO sure sounds limited. More like a degrading. It would be more logically to become more and more free the higher you get...


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: Divine_Madness]
    #730503 - 07/08/02 05:09 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Also, if you ask me people here are confusing the quickening with growing up. It is a well know phenomenon that the older you get, the faster you experience time.


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: Divine_Madness]
    #730575 - 07/08/02 06:34 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

So if the end of the world never happens when were 60 we should be getting ready for bed as soon as we get up? lol......time does seem to be speeding up rather quickly, but maybe it is just the person's own perception.


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: Divine_Madness]
    #730597 - 07/08/02 06:45 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

In reply to:

Also, if you ask me people here are confusing the quickening with growing up. It is a well know phenomenon that the older you get, the faster you experience time.



Yes, but individually growing contributes to the growth of our species as a whole, and all of these different individuals that are taking leaps in all aspects of their lives make up a "quickening" in time perception. And yes, I believe that people are making these leaps NOT just technologically and knowledge-wise, but in all areas of growth.


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: ]
    #730718 - 07/08/02 07:51 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

How do we perceive time? Our perception of time is related to how much time we have experienced.

When you are 1 hour old, an hour is your whole lifetime - it is 'forever' in your perception.

When you are 80 years old, an hour is about 1/700,800 of your lifetime - a pretty short time period.


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    #731020 - 07/08/02 10:34 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

So if you believe in a "collective unconscious" at all, that would apply to the entire living age of all human beings as well...
Say, all human's lives added up to X amount of hours. The bigger this number, the shorter the time perception is by the species as a whole?
And since this number is probablly larger than ever before in our recorded history, would that not support the theory of our perception of time as a species seeming to "speed up"?


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    #731159 - 07/08/02 11:30 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Are you thinking about The Borg?


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    #734736 - 07/09/02 07:59 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: Adamist]
    #737020 - 07/10/02 04:48 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

revelations, awareness are occuring more frequently, the mind is opening up to the ability to be in touch wit the 4th dimension, the "qucikening", namely a movie term represents this


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: Adamist]
    #737034 - 07/10/02 04:51 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

i agree, the quickening, revelations transcend time and space
hmmm sounds like a shroom induced state
there is something here between the pharmacology of the active ingredient and those who have this enlightenment without being in an induced state


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Re: Attn: Shroomism. The Greys = Evil. [Re: llib]
    #737203 - 07/10/02 06:02 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Shrooms taste better in Nestle's Quick(ening).


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