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1-3 Guns are not used millions of times each year in self-defense

We use epidemiological theory to explain why the "false positive" problem for rare events can lead to large overestimates of the incidence of rare diseases or rare phenomena such as self-defense gun use. We then try to validate the claims of many millions of annual self-defense uses against available evidence. We find that the claim of many millions of annual self-defense gun uses by American citizens is invalid.

Hemenway, David. Survey research and self-defense gun use: An explanation of extreme overestimates. Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology. 1997; 87:1430-1445.

Hemenway, David. The myth of millions of annual self-defense gun uses: A case study of survey overestimates of rare events. Chance (American Statistical Association). 1997; 10:6-10.

Cook, Philip J; Ludwig, Jens; Hemenway, David. The gun debate's new mythical number: How many defensive uses per year? Journal of Policy Analysis and Management. 1997; 16:463-469.

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Across states, more guns = more suicide (2) (cross sectional analyses)

Using survey data on rates of household gun ownership, we examined the association between gun availability and suicide across states, 1999-2001.  States with higher levels of household gun ownership had higher rates of firearm suicide and overall suicide.  This relationship held for both genders and all age groups.  It remained true after accounting for poverty, urbanization and unemployment.  There was no association between gun prevalence and non-firearm suicide.

Miller, Matthew; Lippmann, Steven; Azrael, Deborah; Hemenway, David. Household firearm ownership and rates of suicide across U.S. states. Journal of Trauma. 2007; 62:1029-35.

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Mafeki said:

A survey's a survey.

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Mafeki said:

Firearms are used far more often to intimidate than in self-defense.

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Guns in the home are used more often to intimidate intimates than to thwart crime.

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Adolescents are far more likely to be threatened with a gun than to use one in self-defense.

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Across states, more guns = more female violent deaths

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Across high income countries more guns = more female homicide deaths.

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The list is endless

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luvdemshrooms said:

Because it's been shown that states with liberal firearms laws have lower rates of violent crime?

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What? Who showed this how?

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Because it's been shown that legal firearms owners commit crimes at a rate far lower than others?

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luvdemshrooms said:

Because it's been shown that states with liberal firearms laws have lower rates of violent crime?

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moonrockmushy said:

Where do you think that illegal guns come from?  The illegal gun factory?

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moonrockmushy said:

If one person should be free to defend themselves with a weapon, why shouldn't communities be free to protect itself by reducing the number of guns available?  Even the 2nd ammendment says that arms should be well regulated.

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A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

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moonrockmushy said:

If one person should be free to defend themselves with a weapon, why shouldn't communities be free to protect itself by reducing the number of guns available?  Even the 2nd ammendment says that arms should be well regulated.

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Prisoner#1 said:
self defense doesnt mean you have to shoot someone, drawing the weapon is usually more than enough

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bullshit, guns in the home are more often untouched than used for anything

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bullshit. show the evidence, state by state breakdown on firearms deaths relating to sex

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Across states, more guns = more female violent deaths

We analyzed the relationship between firearm availability and unintentional gun death, homicide and suicide for women across the 50 states over a ten year period.  Women in states with many guns have elevated rates of unintentional gun deaths, suicides and homicide, particularly firearm suicides and firearm homicides.

Miller, Matthew; Azrael, Deborah; Hemenway, David. Firearm availability and unintentional firearm deaths, suicide, and homicide among women. Journal of Urban Health. 2002; 79:26-38.

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really? so what about the low income countries where guns are heavily restricted

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Icepic said:

Guns don't kill people..... Hammers do! Gun laws don't detour gun crime you need more research not liberal propaganda.

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