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OfflineGringoLoco
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Germans believe 9-11 was staged
    #1742484 - 07/23/03 07:44 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

BERLIN -- One-third of Germans under age 30 believe the U.S. government may have sponsored the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on New York and Washington, according to a poll published Wednesday.

And about 20 percent of Germans in all age groups hold this view, according to a survey of 1,000 people conducted for the weekly Die Zeit.

The poll also said 68 percent of all Germans felt the media had not reported the full truth behind the attacks, in which some 3,000 people were killed when hijacked planes were crashed into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

After the Sept. 11 attacks, there was an outpouring of sympathy from Germans for the United States. Despite misgivings, Germany joined a military campaign against the al Qaeda network that Washington blamed for the attacks.

But as the United States geared up for war against Iraq, relations soured as Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder expressed vocal opposition to the plans.

Although the United States took offense at Berlin's attitude, Schroeder's anti-war stance was popular in Germany and helped him to snatch victory in last September's elections.

Asked whether they believed the U.S. government could have ordered the Sept. 11 attacks, 31 percent of those surveyed under the age of 30 answered "yes," while 19 percent overall gave the same answer.

Die Zeit said widespread disbelief about the reasons given by the United States for going to war in Iraq and suspicion about media coverage of the conflict had fostered a climate in which conspiracy theories flourished.

"The news is controlled," 17-year-old Kenny Donaubaur was quoted as saying. "You could see that in the Iraq war. It doesn't seem to me that you get the full truth."

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Invisibleluvdemshrooms
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Re: Germans believe 9-11 was staged [Re: GringoLoco]
    #1742502 - 07/23/03 07:49 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

They thought they could win the war as well.

Look where that got them.


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Re: Germans believe 9-11 was staged [Re: GringoLoco]
    #1742519 - 07/23/03 07:56 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

They love David Hasselhoff, too.


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Invisibleluvdemshrooms
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Re: Germans believe 9-11 was staged [Re: wingnutx]
    #1742529 - 07/23/03 07:57 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

wingnutx said:
They love David Hasselhoff, too.





That's just seriously wrong.


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Re: Germans believe 9-11 was staged [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1742545 - 07/23/03 08:01 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

I just spent a couple of weeks in Germany, and I heard John Denver everywhere I went. There's a techno version of 'country roads' that is a huge hit right now, people sing along to polks bands covering Denver, it's fucking everywhere.

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Re: Germans believe 9-11 was staged [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1742556 - 07/23/03 08:03 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

you can add my german ass to those statistics!

dubya is just not smart enough to pokerface and keep reading stories to kindergarteners. he knew what was up.

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Re: Germans believe 9-11 was staged [Re: DoctorJ]
    #1742574 - 07/23/03 08:05 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

How do you feel about David Hasselhoff?

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Re: Germans believe 9-11 was staged [Re: wingnutx]
    #1742594 - 07/23/03 08:10 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

I used to love knight rider when I was a kid!

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Re: Germans believe 9-11 was staged [Re: DoctorJ]
    #1742610 - 07/23/03 08:13 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

DoctorJ said:
I used to love knight rider when I was a kid!



Someone had to.


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Re: Germans believe 9-11 was staged [Re: DoctorJ]
    #1742653 - 07/23/03 08:21 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

Sad fact - Knight Rider was a childrens show.

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Re: Germans believe 9-11 was staged [Re: GringoLoco]
    #1742830 - 07/23/03 09:01 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

Hey now, Knight Rider kicked ass!

Anyway, it sure is funny how sad they were for us when it happened, and how now that many of them believe we were responsible for it. I say we because this is my country. Another thing to remember is that a lot of young people are stupid. Personally, I don't give a fuck what they think. They can amuse themselves with ridiculous conspiracy theories all the want, as many of you do here.

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Re: Germans believe 9-11 was staged [Re: shakta]
    #1742959 - 07/23/03 09:40 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

Germans 21-30 Sure, the Nazis they don't see coming, but this they catch.

Ethnocentricism and stuff.

Kinda funny about the drop off of 11 percent at 30. Someone said I'm not supposed to trust those people...

Anyway, possible? Sure. Probable...Hey if it wasn't us it'd be someone else, eh luvdem?


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Re: Germans believe 9-11 was staged [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #1742976 - 07/23/03 09:47 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

You wouldn't happen to have a link for the article, do you?

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Re: Germans believe 9-11 was staged [Re: GringoLoco]
    #1743399 - 07/24/03 12:12 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

What percent of Germans find being pooped on, or pooping on someone to be sexually stimulating?


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“Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper. Truth itself becomes suspicious by being put into that polluted vehicle. The real extent of this state of misinformation is known only to those who are in situations to confront facts within their knowledge with the lies of the day.”  -- Thomas Jefferson

The greatest sin of mankind is ignorance.

The press takes [Trump] literally, but not seriously; his supporters take him seriously, but not literally. --Salena Zeto (9/23/16)

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Re: Germans believe 9-11 was staged [Re: GringoLoco]
    #1743752 - 07/24/03 03:45 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

I wonder what percentage of Americans under 30 also hold the view that the 9-11 attacks were sponsored by the US govt?

I dont know one way or the other, it wouldnt surprise me though.


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Re: Germans believe 9-11 was staged [Re: GringoLoco]
    #1743823 - 07/24/03 05:51 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

The Germans know an evil dictator when they see one.

They're watching their history repeat itself over here in the states.




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Re: Germans believe 9-11 was staged [Re: Learyfan]
    #1744698 - 07/24/03 01:14 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

Nonsense.  To compare Bush to Hitler isn't right.  While there are countless sites that point out an amazing number of similarities, there are also some major differences that make the comparison just plain wrong:

1)  Hitler brought his country out of economic depression
2)  Hitler turned Germany into an industrial superpower
3)  Hitler reduced unemployment from 6 million to 1.75 million
4)  Hitler created the Autobahn
5)  Hitler improved factory working conditions
6)  Hitler restored German pride after the humiliating Treaty of Versailles
7)  Hitler was in power almost 10 years before beginning any type of genocide

(This post is a parody - not to be taken too seriously)  :tongue:   


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Re: Germans believe 9-11 was staged [Re: Cornholio]
    #1744725 - 07/24/03 01:22 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah Bush is lacking..

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Re: Germans believe 9-11 was staged [Re: GringoLoco]
    #1746309 - 07/24/03 10:38 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

Well I guess the Germans learned from their experience.

Here is the link to the article for the person who requested it.

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Re: Germans believe 9-11 was staged [Re: Cornholio]
    #1746453 - 07/24/03 11:31 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

You got me.

I kept having to look at the name and make sure it was you.




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