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Re: I predict that on 09/11/02 that: [Re: puscle]
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Hopefully Bush will see reason...


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Re: I predict that on 09/11/02 that: [Re: puscle]
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RE: "I disagree and I'll tell you why. The powers that be will give us time to (re)mourn this national tragedy. This may take a few days. As grief turns to anger, selective disinformation and misinformation will be "leaked". This is a time proven formulae that doesn't fail. Even in a Hollywood picture show we need a reason to seek revenge."

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At this time I do agree with you!

(people change)


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Re: I predict that on 09/11/02 that: [Re: Jammer]
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fuck AmeriKKKa's war(s) for oil.


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Re: I predict that on 09/11/02 that: [Re: PGF]
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Do you own a car or pay a light bill? How would you like to pay $6.00 per gallon or pay triple for your light bill?

But more important that the oil is protecting Israel and ourselves from the terror by night and the arrow that flieth by day.


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And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

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Re: I predict that on 09/11/02 that: [Re: Ellis Dee]
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RE: "Do you own a car or pay a light bill? How would you like to pay $6.00 per gallon or pay triple for your light bill?"


Is this issue REALLY worth killing sooo many people over? :confused: 


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Re: I predict that on 09/11/02 that: [Re: Jammer]
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That's not the issue we're using to justify the war. Fricking WORLD WAR 3 started on September Eleventh Thousand and One. We're already at war. The head of the Iraqi arms program has already defected to us and has supplied evidence that the current Iraqi regime will be a nuclear power mid 2003 - 2004. We have to stop them now or we never will be able to in the future. The question worth killing all those military targets for is: Do you want Iraq and Saddam Hussein to have his finger on a nuclear button pointed at you and at Israel?


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"If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do."-King Solomon

And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

Edited by Ellis Dee (09/02/02 08:07 PM)

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Re: I predict that on 09/11/02 that: [Re: Ellis Dee]
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RE: " Fricking WORLD WAR 3 started on September Eleventh Two Thousand and Two."


Jammer: "huh?
What date is on YOUR calender today :confused:?" 


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Edited by Jammer (09/02/02 08:11 PM)

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Re: I predict that on 09/11/02 that: [Re: Jammer]
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Oh man! I made a typo! Thanks for bringing it to my attention. *Sarcasm*.


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Re: I predict that on 09/11/02 that: [Re: Ellis Dee]
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alternative energies

and Israel?
fuck Israel and fuck the palestinians....both barbaric less then white peoples.

there, I said it......sorry if it offends.
but their actions have been speaking louder than my words just did for many years now.

act like idiots, be called an idiot ......nuke the sand niggers, one and all, including the israeli jews in that piece of land they kill babies to live in

:smirk:


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Re: I predict that on 09/11/02 that: [Re: Ellis Dee]
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>>>> The head of the Iraqi arms program has already defected to us and has supplied evidence that the current Iraqi regime will be a nuclear power mid 2003 - 2004. <<<<

How can anyone be a year or two away from nuclear capability? I mean the information is out their, they arent inventing anything new, they already have skilled engineers and bookoo bucks to buy anything they want on the black market so whats the wait? If they have the explosive nuclear parts I would say that they already have nuclear weapons capability and could propably put together a delivery system quickly, say in the amount of time it took Georgie Bush to attack from the first mention of it....

Could it be that the head of the arms program defected as a spy? An agent of misinformation to fool us into starting a war against a nuclear power killing hundreds of thousands of American lives?

Hmmmm


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Re: I predict that on 09/11/02 that: [Re: Ellis Dee]
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The head of the Iraqi arms program has already defected to us and has supplied evidence that the current Iraqi regime will be a nuclear power mid 2003 - 2004.

Horseshit. Can't you tell when your being lied to? Bush needs a reason to justify getting the biggest defence budget in history to his corporate buddies. They need to create "threats" - Saddam is a good bogeyman to scare the gullible with.

btw, what do you think Saddam is going to do if he had nuclear weapons? Lob one at Israel? Tell me, what happens then? Iraq is wiped off the face of the earth in retaliation. What we do know about Saddam is that he is a very shrewd operator. He is not going to launch nuclear missiles at anyone.


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Re: I predict that on 09/11/02 that: [Re: ]
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I don't think we are going to bomb innocent people, that is just ignorant. I Believe that the us will lead a ground war against them, as well as use there better intelligence to bomb military targets.






If we use the same intelligence as we are using in Afghanistan, I am sure the casualties would be low.
How more weddings we are going to hit this time let's include birthdays, bachelor&#8217;s parties and bingos


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Re: I predict that on 09/11/02 that: [Re: Xlea321]
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Horseshit. Can't you tell when your being lied to?


No reason he should when you obviously can't.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: I predict that on 09/11/02 that: [Re: Xlea321]
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Alex123 writes:

btw, what do you think Saddam is going to do if he had nuclear weapons? Lob one at Israel?

He might. He lobbed SCUDS at Israel during the Gulf War, even though Israel had nothing to do with the task at hand -- Iraq's invasion of Kuwait.

Tell me, what happens then? Iraq is wiped off the face of the earth in retaliation. What we do know about Saddam is that he is a very shrewd operator.

Shrewd? You think it was shrewd to gratuitously twist the tail of a nuclear power (Israel almost certainly has nukes) for no gain whatsoever? Come to that, you think it was shrewd to invade Kuwait in the first place?

You and I have different definitions of the word "shrewd", I guess. I would have said "reckless" was a closer fit.

pinky


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Re: I predict that on 09/11/02 that: [Re: Phred]
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He might. He lobbed SCUDS at Israel during the Gulf War, even though Israel had nothing to do with the task at hand -- Iraq's invasion of Kuwait.

No, getting Israel involved in the war would have meant the shaky Arab coalition almost certainly collapsing. This was why the US went to desperate lengths to ensure that Israel didn't respond. Nothing to do with recklessnesson the part of Saddam, just pure shrewd calculation. If Israel had responded it's likely the war would still be going on today.

Shrewd? You think it was shrewd to gratuitously twist the tail of a nuclear power (Israel almost certainly has nukes) for no gain whatsoever? Come to that, you think it was shrewd to invade Kuwait in the first place?

earth calling pinkie..earth calling pinkie...Israel cannot go around dropping nuclear bombs on people. They would have been a pariah in the international community for decades to come. No-one uses nuclear weapons because someone throws a scud at them. Sounds like Saddam is a hell of a lot shrewder than you.


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Re: I predict that on 09/11/02 that: [Re: Phred]
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Come to that, you think it was shrewd to invade Kuwait in the first place?


"The US is not interested in Arab-Arab conflicts."

- Said to Saddam by United states ambassador to Iraq April Glaspie in a meeting in July 1990 after Iraq troop movements on the Kuwait border. This was the green light for the invasion.

There's a whole lot more to the invasion of Kuwait than your media told you pinkie.


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Re: I predict that on 09/11/02 that: [Re: Xlea321]
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Nothing to do with recklessnesson the part of Saddam, just pure shrewd calculation.

You say the reason for his attack on Israel was to lure them into the conflict. His ploy didn't work. Miscalculation on his part. Not shrewd.

No-one uses nuclear weapons because someone throws a scud at them.

And Saddam KNEW that for a fact? The Israelis are not the most stable people in the world, and they have a formidable military strength, conventional OR nuclear. The SCUD attacks are the ONLY incident of aggression against Israel I am aware of that the Israelis decided not to respond to. In EVERY other case they have retaliated, and retaliated HARD. Saddam was taking an enormous gamble. Not shrewd, reckless.

pinky





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Re: I predict that on 09/11/02 that: [Re: Xlea321]
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This was the green light for the invasion.

Again, a miscalculation on Saddam's part. Not shrewd.

There's a whole lot more to the invasion of Kuwait than your media told you pinkie.

What is "my media"? I am not an American. I was born in Canada, but for the past fifteen years I have lived in the Dominican Republic. I read newspapers written in english and in spanish. I read websites. I have no television, so I might see a CNN broadcast twice a year in a sports bar or when I am on vacation.

pinky


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Re: I predict that on 09/11/02 that: [Re: Ellis Dee]
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Bombs won't be dropped on suffering Iraqi suffering civilians. They will be dropped on their well fed and healthy soldiers and on military compunds.


Sure, all bombs carry a monkey inside, that knows exactly the difference between civilians and soldiers.

MAIA


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Re: I predict that on 09/11/02 that: [Re: Ellis Dee]
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BTW, I disagree with the 5,000 civilians killed thing, where do you get those stats? Most of those killed were shooting artillery or in building where small arms were being fired from.



Well, what if there were 5000 people shooting artillery and in the buildings ? How can you tell the diference between 400 and 5000 people when they are dispersed or inside buildings, a good fast eye ?

MAIA


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