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OfflineJammer
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I predict that on 09/11/02 that:
    #854017 - 08/30/02 09:58 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

America Attacks Iraq!


(at the very least I feel that America might be very much at war with Iraq by 09/11/2002)


I often fear that George W. feels a strong need to finish what his daddy has been so badly critised for not doing. In the past few days the Vice President has been giving public speeches warning the world as to why America must attack... In fact for many months now the media has reported about many goverment leaks that suggest that America will invade Iraq - AGAIN.

I really dont want to see this happen.

(I hope that I'm wrong)


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Re: I predict that on 09/11/02 that: [Re: Jammer]
    #854062 - 08/30/02 10:21 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

It would violate every principle of international law and be one of the biggest crimes against humanity.

But since when has that stopped the Bush family?


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Re: I predict that on 09/11/02 that: [Re: Xlea321]
    #854073 - 08/30/02 10:29 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

International is: The nation with the biggest army makes the rules.

And btw we do have the right to defend ourselves from terrorists and congress has already authorized all necessary action when they gave the president free reign to do anything to combat terror shorly after 9-11.


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Re: I predict that on 09/11/02 that: [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #854077 - 08/30/02 10:32 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Well, you can certainly carry on bombing and maiming thousands of innocent people. In the face of opposition from every country on earth. But what good with that do?

Don't think terrorism like invading Iraq is going to stop anything. You are going to create thousands of embittered people who will be committed to attacking america in any way possible.


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Re: I predict that on 09/11/02 that: [Re: Xlea321]
    #854079 - 08/30/02 10:34 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

You're not going to make thousands in Iraq bitter. They would be grateful if the Israeli army would march in and liberate them at this point. Their dictator makes them all suffer and they live in fear. That's how it is.


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Re: I predict that on 09/11/02 that: [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #854132 - 08/30/02 11:44 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I'm sorry but dropping bombs on people from 15,000 feet tends to make them bitter.

They were suffering under Saddam 20 years ago when the US were backing him to the hilt. The last thing they want is the same bastards who installed Saddam installing another thug.


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Re: I predict that on 09/11/02 that: [Re: Xlea321]
    #854138 - 08/30/02 11:49 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

RE: "Ask the american air force to drop a bomb on your house and listen to your mother scream in agony for a few hours before she dies. See how you feel about the americans then."



hmm... it might be just enough to make some raise there kids to make suicide hi-jacked plane-rides into tall buildings.

Does anyone NOT understand why America was attacked?


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Re: I predict that on 09/11/02 that: [Re: Jammer]
    #854427 - 08/31/02 06:44 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Bush lost out in his attempt to wage war with Iraq under the war on terrorism... Turns out that none of the hijackers were Iraqi but almost all of them were Saudi yet we are kissing the Saudis asses for support in attacking Iraq which even after a home cooked dinner they still refuse to give us the green light...

Everything I have read though is that congress supports an attack and if Georgie asks he will get it. They say that he dont even need to ask congress because were still at war under the decree his father made and we can go back and finish what we started... (that just dont make sence).

I dont know exactly when or if it will happen before 9/11 but I guarantee it will happen before our immunity agreement with the UN runs out...


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Re: I predict that on 09/11/02 that: [Re: Xlea321]
    #854689 - 08/31/02 11:14 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Domocracy will be thre new order in Iraq and all the middle east. Let freedom ring!!!


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Re: I predict that on 09/11/02 that: [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #854696 - 08/31/02 11:18 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I don't think we are gonna bomb innocent people, that is just ignorant. I Believe that the us will lead a ground war against them, as well as use there better intelligence to bomb military targets.


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Re: I predict that on 09/11/02 that: [Re: Xlea321]
    #854713 - 08/31/02 11:28 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

In reply to:

be one of the biggest crimes against humanity



Did you even think about that before you wrote such a foolish statement?


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Re: I predict that on 09/11/02 that: [Re: ]
    #855686 - 08/31/02 10:06 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

The US doesn't believe in ground wars. As Afghanistan showed, because they are terrified of seeing an american in a body bag they relied on making war from 15,000 feet and letting the brutal Northern Alliance do the ground war. The result? 5000 dead Afghan civilians and every single leader of the Taliban and Al-queda living free and easy.


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Re: I predict that on 09/11/02 that: [Re: Xlea321]
    #855702 - 08/31/02 10:12 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I htink this is the first bit you posted that I agree with. I reall think Bush showed his weakness by not launching a major ground offensive. He had bin Laden surrounded at Tora Bora but due to the fact that there were only a couple hundread actual ground troops there he slipped through our grasp. The northern alliance doesn't care about the al-qaeda or the 9-11 attack. They were just the chumps to do the dirty work for us. BTW, I disagree with the 5,000 civilians killed thing, where do you get those stats? Most of those killed were shooting artillery or in building where small arms were being fired from.


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Re: I predict that on 09/11/02 that: [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #855708 - 08/31/02 10:13 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Did you even think about that before you wrote such a foolish statement?

To be honest I think I underplayed it. To date 600,000 children under 5 have died in agony thanks to the US enforced sanctions. No other country agrees with the sanctions - without the US they would have been lifted long ago. The UN directors in charge of them have resigned in disgust saying the US is guilty of "crimes against humanity" and "genocide".

Dropping thousands of tons of bombs on a people suffering like the Iraqi's already are from lack of medical supplies and food is a crime against humanity. And why? 15 years ago the US was desperate to build up Saddams weapons of mass destruction, now he is such a "threat" that they want to bomb Iraq back into the stone age to get rid of him. Does anyone really believe this shit? He was the same man 15 years ago when Bush senior worshipped the ground he walked on.

600,000 kids is the same as Iraq suffering a World trade center attack every month for the last decade.


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Re: I predict that on 09/11/02 that: [Re: Xlea321]
    #855723 - 08/31/02 10:18 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Dropping thousands of tons of bombs on a people suffering like the Iraqi's already are from lack of medical supplies and food is a crime against humanity.



Bombs won't be dropped on suffering Iraqi suffering civilians. They will be dropped on their well fed and healthy soldiers and on military compunds.

It's also worth knowing that Iraq's current regime has intentionally with held humanitarian supplies from the people they were intended for to his friends and military units. It is Saddam's own regime that makes the people suffer. We will liberate them and install a democracy.

Let Freedom Ring!!!  :smile:


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Re: I predict that on 09/11/02 that: [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #855745 - 08/31/02 10:25 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Bombs won't be dropped on suffering Iraqi suffering civilians.

Nah man, war from 15,000 feet isn't the video game the generals want you believe. In Afghanistan 5000 civilians were bombed to death - this is a place where the population is a lot more spread out than Iraq. Not to mention the water sanitation facilities and all the other places that will be bombed as they were in 1991- this will cause massive casualties.

It's also worth knowing that Iraq's current regime has intentionally with held humanitarian supplies from the people they were intended for to his friends and military units.

This US claim was exhaustively studied by UN inspectors and found to be complete nonsense. The deaths are a result of the the US sanctions not Saddam withholding food and medical supplies.


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Re: I predict that on 09/11/02 that: [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #857771 - 09/01/02 09:03 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

The US has worse aim then a drunken, blind midget, shooting a slingshot at a beer bottle from 50 feet away. They hit themselves as often as they miss the "enemy". Its ridiculous what democratic means now, compared to what the founders of this nation considered it to mean. Weve gone from democracy to hipocracy


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Re: I predict that on 09/11/02 that: [Re: Jammer]
    #858181 - 09/02/02 02:59 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

In reply to:

(at the very least I feel that America might be very much at war with Iraq by 09/11/2002)




I disagree and I'll tell you why. The powers that be will give us time to (re)mourn this national tragedy. This may take a few days. As grief turns to anger, selective disinformation and misinformation will be "leaked". This is a time proven formulae that doesn't fail. Even in a Hollywood picture show we need a reason to seek revenge.

That said, I say we go in and get that bastard, Saddam. So what if junior is finishing his daddy`s business? Wouldn't you?


Edited by puscle (09/02/02 03:02 AM)


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Re: I predict that on 09/11/02 that: [Re: puscle]
    #858303 - 09/02/02 06:47 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

What of his daddys buisness? For 10 years Reagan and Bush were so close to Saddam it was known as "the love affair". Bush has slaughtered 600,000 iraqi kids under 5 but Saddam was never in the least danger.

Bush knew that if it wasn't Saddam it was very likely to be someone unfriendly to US interests which is why he let Saddam slaughter the shi''tes and kurds after the end of the gulf war. Allowing him to abuse the "no-fly zone" with helicopter gunships.

This idea that America has wanted to "get" Saddam for the last 10 years is utter bullshit. They are perfectly happy letting the Iraqi people die in agony by enforcing sanctions which they knew would only strengthen Saddams grip on power. Clearly the profit margin of starting a war is now greater than the profit of leaving Saddam in power. They need to do something to justify that massive leap in defence spending.


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Re: I predict that on 09/11/02 that: [Re: Xlea321]
    #858570 - 09/02/02 10:40 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks for that insight. Maybe Jammer is right. I guess we'll just have to "Wait and see".


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