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really sensitive subject.. i feel like i can't talk to anyone about
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not really sure how to start this off

i started being attracted to females when i was about 10  but i wasn't attracted to other 10 year olds. i was attracted to about 12yr olds and up.  the issue at hand is that i am almost 20 years old now and i still am  .. attracted to girls that are in middle school.

atleast in the united states  i see people with pedophilic attracts portrayed as monsters, rapists, threats to society  and really the lowest possible scum of the earth.

not only am i represented as the villian in movies, tv shows, books and by the law  but people i encounter in my everyday life have told me how in prison the guards turn their backs so other prisoners can beat pedophiles to death. close friends of mine have mentioned how they would like to kill or torture people like me without knowing who they are talking to.

i don't choose who i find physically  desirable anymore than a homosexual could turn themselves hetro.  i'm not a rapist, i'm i well intentioned hippie sort , a pacifist.  i would never hurt a child.  rationally i don't think i'm nearly the only one either, i think its very common.  but thats what i THINK.  i FEEL that i am the abomination that everyone wants me to be. 

i really am a scapegoated pariah  and it hurts. i've come to tears many times about this. i don't know how to come to terms

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Re: really sensitive subject.. i feel like i can't talk to anyone about [Re: Anonymous #1] * 6
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I don't think you are a monster as long as you don't hurt anyone. A psychologist might help how you can address those feelings and maybe channeling it.

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Re: really sensitive subject.. i feel like i can't talk to anyone about [Re: Anonymous #1]
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So what do?  Are you attracted to adult females as well?  If so, and you accept that a sexual experience for someone that young could be very traumatic (even if they are willing or whatever [can they make such decisions that young?])  then you should use your higher brain functions, eschewing the primal instincts of desire and live on.  Though I can see how this could cause internal conflict.  Denying your true nature and whatnot.

Maybe see a doctor?  I have heard stories of people who develop pedophilia and it turns out to be a tumor in the brain.  Though I doubt you have the tumor issue, as it happened at such a young age (probably during your sexual imprinting, something all males go through.)

That is a tough cookie.

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Re: really sensitive subject.. i feel like i can't talk to anyone about [Re: Anonymous #2]
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Yeah man. You just need to get help before it's too late. There are psychologists and counselors out there who can help you.

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Re: really sensitive subject.. i feel like i can't talk to anyone about [Re: Anonymous #2]
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channeling?

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Re: really sensitive subject.. i feel like i can't talk to anyone about [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Well, its not easy to change what your attracted to. And even harder to change the culture. There is no easy answer thats for sure. Your going to have to live with it. Know that God still loves you. (And I still love you.) I don't think there is anything wrong with it. I think that if you do end up following your desires then it will be hard to get consent from a partner when they are that young. You will need consent, and when you are that young its hard to know what you really want, do you know what I mean? Personally I am attracted to men, but not enough to be sexually attracted, or if I am I choose not to pursue that and move my focus towards women. Are you attracted to older women as well? Or just the youngins. And I guess there is also the question if you want to change that.

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Re: really sensitive subject.. i feel like i can't talk to anyone about [Re: Anonymous #1]
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I am not an expert or anyhing but they might help you channel it to older females maybe. And maybe you can turn it into a fantasy or sth. Like school girl uniform with adult females:)., many people have fantasies. Most don't hurt anyone even if turned into reality. In your case you acknowledge that it would hurt someone. Thats why I think you should try to find a way to channel it.

This is a though subject, and you should seek some help. I understand your situation It seems though. You said you can't talk about this to anyone a professional would listen and won't judge.

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Re: really sensitive subject.. i feel like i can't talk to anyone about [Re: Anonymous #2]
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You're only 20 so I wouldn't bet on that.

I remember, some years ago I couldn't imagine being sexually attracted by females older than 20 years.
This changed into almost the opposite.

Just take your time.

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Re: really sensitive subject.. i feel like i can't talk to anyone about [Re: Anonymous #3]
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Anonymous #3 said:
So what do?  Are you attracted to adult females as well?  If so, and you accept that a sexual experience for someone that young could be very traumatic (even if they are willing or whatever [can they make such decisions that young?])  then you should use your higher brain functions, eschewing the primal instincts of desire and live on.  Though I can see how this could cause internal conflict.  Denying your true nature and whatnot.

Maybe see a doctor?  I have heard stories of people who develop pedophilia and it turns out to be a tumor in the brain.  Though I doubt you have the tumor issue, as it happened at such a young age (probably during your sexual imprinting, something all males go through.)

That is a tough cookie.



if its consensual  and the female has a firm grasp on the concept of sexual relations i don't see a problem other than societal. i think the truama is due to the attitude people have towards it.  i remember looking up how in denmark ( if reember correctly) there was/is  and organization that helps with these sort of issues but they only advocated for these relations if the parents where well aware of the relationship and approved of it.   

i see intelligent people take advantage of inexperienced  and tbh stupid women above 18.  these women encounter tramua and generally seek men in a similar fashion and get hurt in the same way never learning.  yet this is often laughed off by men known as "womanizers"

i don't even do this as i feel the intentions are wrongful. 

i would like to encounter the opposite of that at some point,  a well understood mature young woman  who can have a consenual sexual interaction with me, hopefully in a situation where she will not recieve badgering others for a simple and beautiful act.  i see no victim there.

it really would be easier to find an older woman (whom i am also attracted to. not nearly to the same degree but  my last relationship was actually with a female 5 years older than myself)  and more practical.     

i just have these conflictions that make things difficult.  i use pornography to palliate these thoughts (which i am very scared of my laptop ever getting into the wrong hands) but i often catch myself oogling nubiles and force my self to leave public situations such as leaving a cart full of groceries behind and rushing out of the store  or leaving coffee shops, book stores etc.   

eh  fuck..    i'm sure this isn't what anyone wants to hear and it isn't anything i want to say.  i just need to let some of this out without fear of consequences

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Re: really sensitive subject.. i feel like i can't talk to anyone about [Re: Anonymous #6]
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Anonymous #5 said:
Well, its not easy to change what your attracted to. And even harder to change the culture. There is no easy answer thats for sure. Your going to have to live with it. Know that God still loves you. (And I still love you.) I don't think there is anything wrong with it. I think that if you do end up following your desires then it will be hard to get consent from a partner when they are that young. You will need consent, and when you are that young its hard to know what you really want, do you know what I mean? Personally I am attracted to men, but not enough to be sexually attracted, or if I am I choose not to pursue that and move my focus towards women. Are you attracted to older women as well? Or just the youngins. And I guess there is also the question if you want to change that.



thank you

Anonymous #6 said:
You're only 20 so I wouldn't bet on that.

I remember, some years ago I couldn't imagine being sexually attracted by females older than 20 years.
This changed into almost the opposite.

Just take your time.



and you.  i hope this happens for me.  i think when i get into a good relationship  this won't be as much of a problem.  that is sort of the way its happend in the past

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Re: really sensitive subject.. i feel like i can't talk to anyone about [Re: Anonymous #1] * 2
    #17190485 -

When I see a brinks truck my urge is "get that money" but then "I" step in and say, no you can't take that money,..  no moneys stolen to date.

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Re: really sensitive subject.. i feel like i can't talk to anyone about [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Anonymous #1 said:
if its consensual  and the female has a firm grasp on the concept of sexual relations i don't see a problem other than societal. i think the truama is due to the attitude people have towards it.  i remember looking up how in denmark ( if reember correctly) there was/is  and organization that helps with these sort of issues but they only advocated for these relations if the parents where well aware of the relationship and approved of it.   

i see intelligent people take advantage of inexperienced  and tbh stupid women above 18.  these women encounter tramua and generally seek men in a similar fashion and get hurt in the same way never learning.  yet this is often laughed off by men known as "womanizers"

i don't even do this as i feel the intentions are wrongful. 

i would like to encounter the opposite of that at some point,  a well understood mature young woman  who can have a consenual sexual interaction with me, hopefully in a situation where she will not recieve badgering others for a simple and beautiful act.  i see no victim there.

it really would be easier to find an older woman (whom i am also attracted to. not nearly to the same degree but  my last relationship was actually with a female 5 years older than myself)  and more practical.     

i just have these conflictions that make things difficult.  i use pornography to palliate these thoughts (which i am very scared of my laptop ever getting into the wrong hands) but i often catch myself oogling nubiles and force my self to leave public situations such as leaving a cart full of groceries behind and rushing out of the store  or leaving coffee shops, book stores etc.   

eh  fuck..    i'm sure this isn't what anyone wants to hear and it isn't anything i want to say.  i just need to let some of this out without fear of consequences



Society is a bitch when it comes to acceptability.  You've got the right attitude about this situation.  I commend you for being present enough to recognize the urge and dealing with it in a manner acceptable to you and any other rational person I know.  If you do happen encounter such a female, keep the same head on your shoulders; I see no victim either.

Do yourself a favor and encrypt your computer (I think EVERYONE should do this, but thats another story.)  Look up TrueCrypt.  It is free, and there are simple tutorials to guide you through the process.  Don't let that be a gateway to loads of child porn though, or acting out harmful thoughts.  Check out petite porn or something.  Lol.

Take this jovially; I best not see you on 'to catch a predator'!  :peace::heart:

Edited by Anonymous (11/09/12 03:26 PM)

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Re: really sensitive subject.. i feel like i can't talk to anyone about [Re: Anonymous #3]
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I have the exact same problem OP.....i am attracted to younger girls. Cant help it.

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Re: really sensitive subject.. i feel like i can't talk to anyone about [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Anon 1, how would you feel if you knew someone, about 20 years age, who you knew liked and messed around with 11, 12 year old girls?. How would you feel about this?. What will go through your mind when you think about this person? How will you judge him? Would you lose respect for him?

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Re: really sensitive subject.. i feel like i can't talk to anyone about [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Anonymous #1 said:
not really sure how to start this off

i started being attracted to females when i was about 10  but i wasn't attracted to other 10 year olds. i was attracted to about 12yr olds and up.  the issue at hand is that i am almost 20 years old now and i still am  .. attracted to girls that are in middle school.

atleast in the united states  i see people with pedophilic attracts portrayed as monsters, rapists, threats to society  and really the lowest possible scum of the earth.

not only am i represented as the villian in movies, tv shows, books and by the law  but people i encounter in my everyday life have told me how in prison the guards turn their backs so other prisoners can beat pedophiles to death. close friends of mine have mentioned how they would like to kill or torture people like me without knowing who they are talking to.

i don't choose who i find physically  desirable anymore than a homosexual could turn themselves hetro.  i'm not a rapist, i'm i well intentioned hippie sort , a pacifist.  i would never hurt a child.  rationally i don't think i'm nearly the only one either, i think its very common.  but thats what i THINK.  i FEEL that i am the abomination that everyone wants me to be. 

i really am a scapegoated pariah  and it hurts. i've come to tears many times about this. i don't know how to come to terms




If you are serious about your condition you need to seek professional help, for your own sake and for the sake of others. You will not be judged when speaking to a mental health professional (psychologist or psychiatrist- PhD. is NECESSARY).

In fact, if you cannot afford one they will subsidize the rates, or even provide services for free. Check with a local university for referrals to outreach programs near you.

This is a serious matter and you need help. The longer you wait the worse it will be for you.

(I am a research psychologist btw, I do not work with patients but am familiar with the clinical side. Please take this seriously.)

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Re: really sensitive subject.. i feel like i can't talk to anyone about [Re: Anonymous #9]
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:whathesaid:
OP, one last thought.  Say you meet some sexually mature, intelligent, young woman with whom you have sexual interaction.  Would you want to date this girl?  If so, what happens when she turns 20 or whatever?  Would you lose interest in her?

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Re: really sensitive subject.. i feel like i can't talk to anyone about [Re: Anonymous #3] * 1
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11,12 is way too young.



15,16 is a totally different story

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Re: really sensitive subject.. i feel like i can't talk to anyone about [Re: Anonymous #11]
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Yeah I was gonna say OP go get a subscription to Hustler Barely Legal; I mean some of those chicks could pass for 15-16 but 12?! Nevermind on that idea.

I'm not gonna vilify OP, he's seeking out help and seems like a good person who can't help the way he feels right now, but whatever you do bro obviously don't act on those impulses (understatement of the decade alert).

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Re: really sensitive subject.. i feel like i can't talk to anyone about [Re: Anonymous #12]
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things like this "obsessions" are basically just triggers, for some reason you see younger girls "children" attractive for some possibly unconscious reason that triggers the excitement in you.

this displaced excitement is thought to be a common trait in serial killers and rapists.


but honestly who the hell wants to sleep with a barney watching cookie eating koolaid drinking kid?..

hell most 21 year old girls just lay there...
I don't get it.. I just hioe to hell you never have a daughter ..

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Re: really sensitive subject.. i feel like i can't talk to anyone about [Re: Anonymous #9]
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Anonymous #3 said:
:whathesaid:
OP, one last thought.  Say you meet some sexually mature, intelligent, young woman with whom you have sexual interaction.  Would you want to date this girl?  If so, what happens when she turns 20 or whatever?  Would you lose interest in her?



i dont see why i would lost intrest in any mature, intelligent woman  regardless of age. 
i suppose i could grew less physically attracted to a female as she grows older though that could be said of a woman turning from 25 to 40 as well.     
i understand that and accept it. i've had girlfriends in the past that have lost some of there looks but i stand by a girl if i care about her.

i'd honestly be more worried about a young mature intelligent woman superseding the relationship than myself.

Anonymous #9 said:
Anon 1, how would you feel if you knew someone, about 20 years age, who you knew liked and messed around with 11, 12 year old girls?. How would you feel about this?. What will go through your mind when you think about this person? How will you judge him? Would you lose respect for him?



in honesty i would be thoroughly questioning of their intentions as i do critique my own.      i have a friend who is a year older than i am and he has had quite a few relationships with woman 4-5 yrs younger.  i've known him a very long time and seen he doesn't do too well with relationships as he is notably possessive but he really falls head over heels when he meets girls  quite easily and gets caught up easily

in honesty i wouldn't say he is too healthy for any girl at this point but he treats the relationships that have a vast age difference the same as any other,  like a real emotional connection (and bit of dependency)

that is one example.      though not as extreme as you put it.

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