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Re: Spiritual symbols: Any favorits? [Re: lolwut]
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Nothing spiritually positive in Nazism, obviously. Posting this in Germany would be a crime. Here, I simply find it lacking in creativity with regard to the question, and obnoxious. You've  never known or spoken with death-camp survivors. I own a brass, red enameled ashtray with black-on-white swastika, taken from a bunker in Germany by a Black, former W.W. II G.I. who picked it up himself, and gave it to me 20 years later. He worked for my dad and drove me to school. He thought a Jewish boy would appreciate owning such a souvenir. I never asked him if he had the privilege of killing the inhabitants of the bunker. He's gone now, so I can only like to think so. Be careful that nobody goes Mossad on your ass for your sentiments. :evil: :lol:


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Re: Spiritual symbols: Any favorits? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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MarkostheGnostic said:
Nothing spiritually positive in Nazism, obviously. Posting this in Germany would be a crime. Here, I simply find it lacking in creativity with regard to the question, and obnoxious. You've  never known or spoken with death-camp survivors. I own a brass, red enameled ashtray with black-on-white swastika, taken from a bunker in Germany by a Black, former W.W. II G.I. who picked it up himself, and gave it to me 20 years later. He worked for my dad and drove me to school. He thought a Jewish boy would appreciate owning such a souvenir. I never asked him if he had the privilege of killing the inhabitants of the bunker. He's gone now, so I can only like to think so. Be careful that nobody goes Mossad on your ass for your sentiments. :evil: :lol:


Firstly, :trollhide:

Secondly, in Year 10 at school we studied the holocaust and part of that was going to a museum and hearing a holocaust survivor talk and at the end we could ask questions so I kinda have.

And one could argue the power that Hitler imbued and gained was quite spiritual, as power is part of spirituality, and that he had a compassionate idea in trying to save the world from incorrect thinking yet wrongly directed his efforts into killing instead of helping like the messiahs try to do. One man's messiah is another man's Hitler. But this isn't the place for that discussion :tongue:

And I in no way support Hitler lol I think the dude was a psychopath.


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Re: Spiritual symbols: Any favorits? [Re: dustinthewind13]
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dustinthewind13 said:
What do those symbols mean?


They're are very subjective images, so they won't necessarily mean the same
thing to everyone.

The shot of the bursting bubble has significance for me in a few ways. It symbolizes unity and fracture, the all encompassing ego that is really only the film covering an emptiness. It can also be taken as symbolizing space and time (stretch?).

The Bowl represents the ego-less state, a vessel, form that exists as a vessel for emptiness.

Zero should be obvious, nothing, emptiness, the void, and now this represents GOD, for me personally.

I have more, but it would take too long uploading them all.

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Re: Spiritual symbols: Any favorits? [Re: lolwut]
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lolwut said:
And one could argue the power that Hitler imbued and gained was quite spiritual, as power is part of spirituality, and that he had a compassionate idea in trying to save the world from incorrect thinking yet wrongly directed his efforts into killing instead of helping like the messiahs try to do.


Good and bad are both said to be divine, but hitler being compassionate? :lol:


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Re: Spiritual symbols: Any favorits? [Re: dustinthewind13]
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dustinthewind13 said:
lolwut said:
And one could argue the power that Hitler imbued and gained was quite spiritual, as power is part of spirituality, and that he had a compassionate idea in trying to save the world from incorrect thinking yet wrongly directed his efforts into killing instead of helping like the messiahs try to do.


Good and bad are both said to be divine, but hitler being compassionate? :lol:


For his own race, sure. Or maybe he just wanted as much power as possible, probably the latter.


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Re: Spiritual symbols: Any favorits? [Re: lolwut]
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I like the chakana or inca cross:



I have a pendant of it



When I took ayahuasca in Peru I have a vision of this cross. I didn't know what it was at the time.


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Re: Spiritual symbols: Any favorits? [Re: Reyeorts]
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Re: Spiritual symbols: Any favorits? [Re: X-citer]
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some extending of what i was talking of in previous post:




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Re: Spiritual symbols: Any favorits? [Re: lolwut]
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And one could argue the power that Hitler imbued and gained was quite spiritual, as power is part of spirituality, and that he had a compassionate idea in trying to save the world from incorrect thinking yet wrongly directed his efforts into killing instead of helping like the messiahs try to do. One man's messiah is another man's Hitler. But this isn't the place for that discussion

Really, not the place for such a discussion? There was nothing "compassionate" about Herr Schicklgruber. His feeling function was extremely undeveloped. He could cry for a dead canary, but invent the "final solution, and put another world-class psychopath, Himmler, in charge. Hitler was about the love of power, NOT the power of love, and the word spiritual refers equally to the spirit of evil as it does for good. Your denial of "support" for Hitler is just that - denial - because of your thoroughly mixed message of putting the words "Hitler," "compassionate," and "messiah" together, which goes beyond oxymoronic to clear and blatant contradiction. Neither is it paradoxical in any way. I grew up with a girl whose father fought for Germany, but she never said if he was a party member. I do remember that between kindergarten (another fine German word [apparently, I'm part German, which my parent's denied, but which my mother's maiden name clearly was]), and 12th grade, that girl always went for the biggest bullies around. Possibly an Electra-Complex dynamic based on good old daddy's personality. My wife's step-mum's father recently died. He refused to join the Nazi party when he fought for Germany. Good for him. All she ever admits was that "Hitler mislead the German people." Too cool a response for my liking. Hitler is THE paradigm of 'Man's inhumanity to Man' in post-modern times. I've met a few Holocaust survivors, one who was invited to the Nuremberg trials and is in many now-famous photos.She boasted (if that's appropriate) of showing off her youthful spryness to the infamous Dr. Mengale when disembarking the train, and having been swatted by his horse whip.  One was my parents' dry-cleaner, Max. All of them would take more serious issue with your choice of language than I do, as they could smell out a Nazi sympathizer instantly.

Secondly, that's a big-ass Nazi flag you posted. Very in-your-face. Ask yourself 'why?'


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Re: Spiritual symbols: Any favorits? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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Nazi sympathizer? :lol:

My Granddad was German, he had the opportunity to join Hitler youth or become a Sea merchant, and he chose the latter. His ship was captured and he was sent to Australia which puts me here now. I know this doesn't automatically make me not a sympathizer though. But I'm pretty much the extreme opposite to that.

Talking about Hitler being a messiah to some is to show it's all relative. Your state of mind is no more relevant to the earth than a Nazi's, except yours probably pertains to less suffering so most people would value it more highly. Being a spiritual person I would tend to agree with your state of mind more than I would Hitler's but that doesn't validate your state of mind as "better", just less "evil".

Maybe I just like his idea of taking over the world. I don't like the idea of killing people or exterminating whole races but the idea of the culturally ingrained schizophrenic psychosis that constitutes sanity (which is the source of all human suffering) being removed for good and people living in enlightenment is a nice ideal. Hitler had power without wisdom, to me he was trying to do the world a favour but with the absolute wrong execution and severe lack of wisdom he ended up hurting millions if not billions instead of making heaven on earth which is what he was trying to do it seemed.

Hitler was clearly a messiah to some, you deny this but in the same paragraph call me a Nazi sympathiser which directly proves my point that he was looked up to as a saviour by certain people (most of Germany at the time).


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Re: Spiritual symbols: Any favorits? [Re: lolwut]
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We only played our role as Hitler. The story is told. It's not good or bad, it's a story and a part of who we are as humanity. My father's aunt was in a concentration camp and she's still alive, so I have my share of stories about it. There's no opinion about the guy... just another misguided soul... Swastika on the other hand, is the best symbol to represent the creation.


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Re: Spiritual symbols: Any favorits? [Re: Reyeorts]
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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Spiritual symbols: Any favorits? [Re: Icelander]
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Re: Spiritual symbols: Any favorits? [Re: InTiMiDaToRdInO]
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Re: Spiritual symbols: Any favorits? [Re: Emacov]
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:cookiemonster:


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