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Cactilove
Controversial Mystic

Registered: 02/17/11
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Re: Knowing nothing

[Re: Mr.Al]
#16789304 - 09/04/12 08:50 PM (14 years, 2 days ago)

I did not call your practitioners, cult. I called their clothing cult like.
How do I believe there is no original, because everyone is just a reflection projection of everyone else.
Is falun dafu the only way to enlightenment?
Why do you trust your master to bring you enlightenment?
What is that I have that you need that you don't want?

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Mr.Al
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Re: Knowing nothing

[Re: Cactilove]
#16789370 - 09/04/12 09:00 PM (14 years, 2 days ago)

I do not need what you have in your mind, that empty spot is why always Ding.

You can read Zhuan Falun yourself for free download pdf.
Falundafa.org

I know it works because I have a column of energy coming from the top of my head. This is strange but is very True.

People do reflect, their egos project and reflect. This is True.

There are so many ways to enlightenment it is absurd.

The thing is you can only succeed if you practice just one practice in any particular lifetime.

It is compared by Master Li as, to paraphrase, "Practicing two cultivation practices is like putting a small gear inside of a swiss watch that came from a different kind of watch, then it won't run at all. So many things happen in other dimension with a cultivation practice nothing works right if you add other things to it."

Shakyamuni said something very similar when he said, to paraphrase: "Following two cultivation schools at the same time is like standing on two boats and trying to navigate to a distant shore."

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Ludwig von Mises Institute,Campaign for Liberty.,The Oath Keeper's

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Revok
I Am OTD

Registered: 08/29/12
Posts: 10,432

Re: Knowing nothing

[Re: Mr.Al]
#16789406 - 09/04/12 09:08 PM (14 years, 2 days ago)

"Know thyself..."

Socrates via Plato

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Mr.Al
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Re: Knowing nothing

[Re: Revok]
#16789416 - 09/04/12 09:10 PM (14 years, 2 days ago)

KafkasDog said:

"Know thyself..."

Socrates via Plato

Self examination is a very good idea.

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Revok
I Am OTD

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Re: Knowing nothing

[Re: Mr.Al]
#16789563 - 09/04/12 09:32 PM (14 years, 2 days ago)

Mr. Al , what other idea can there be... ? A rhetorical question meant with no animosity, only appreciation.

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Cactilove
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Re: Knowing nothing

[Re: Mr.Al]
#16789577 - 09/04/12 09:34 PM (14 years, 2 days ago)

My one practice is my own, I do not rely on a specific teacher to show me the way, I rely on many, for I realize I cannot go on another's trip nor can they go on mine.
I will read your zhuan falun. I will take what I find useful and discard the rest. That is my one way.

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Mr.Al
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Re: Knowing nothing

[Re: Cactilove]
#16789637 - 09/04/12 09:42 PM (14 years, 2 days ago)

Cactilove said:

My one practice is my own, I do not rely on a specific teacher to show me the way, I rely on many, for I realize I cannot go on another's trip nor can they go on mine.
I will read your zhuan falun. I will take what I find useful and discard the rest. That is my one way.

If you literally have no attachments you will make it.

It just means that you will be weird, even abilities developed kind of random.

Zhuan Falun is guaranteed to raise enlightenment quality.

Every single supernormal ability that exists can be developed through Falun Dafa. This does not mean that everyone develops many abilities, or reaches same status. As with anything, your mileage may vary.

Please do not do the exercises if you drink alcohol or follow another system currently. The Falun could become warped and Master Li would be pissed for good reason. The Falun allows for 24/7 cultivation.

I thank you sincerely for checking out Zhuan Falun. I consider it to be the most useful book, literally.

Practitioners who are already somewhere and stick to Falun Dafa can raise levels. For example: Arhat to Tathagata if your Character and Virtue is high enough.

It develops Gong dude, it's serious business.

EDIT

It is not my Zhuan Falun. I am student. It is important to be very particular.

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Edited by Mr.Al (09/04/12 09:47 PM)

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Mr.Al
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Re: Knowing nothing

[Re: Revok]
#16789650 - 09/04/12 09:43 PM (14 years, 2 days ago)

KafkasDog said:

Mr. Al , what other idea can there be... ? A rhetorical question meant with no animosity, only appreciation.

If you examine others you won't have to make their mistakes. Learning smarter instead of harder.

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Revok
I Am OTD

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Re: Knowing nothing

[Re: Mr.Al]
#16789663 - 09/04/12 09:45 PM (14 years, 2 days ago)

QTF.... kind of/

edit: It is hard not to expect a lot of others, when your own efforts feel particularly strenuous
And who of us does not feel tired at times, not only for ourselves but of others

Edited by Revok (09/04/12 11:37 PM)

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lolwut
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Registered: 08/14/10
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Re: Knowing nothing

[Re: Mr.Al]
#16791219 - 09/05/12 05:39 AM (14 years, 1 day ago)

Mr.Al said:

Cactilove said:

My one practice is my own, I do not rely on a specific teacher to show me the way, I rely on many, for I realize I cannot go on another's trip nor can they go on mine.
I will read your zhuan falun. I will take what I find useful and discard the rest. That is my one way.

If you literally have no attachments you will make it.

It just means that you will be weird, even abilities developed kind of random.

Zhuan Falun is guaranteed to raise enlightenment quality.

Every single supernormal ability that exists can be developed through Falun Dafa. This does not mean that everyone develops many abilities, or reaches same status. As with anything, your mileage may vary.

Please do not do the exercises if you drink alcohol or follow another system currently. The Falun could become warped and Master Li would be pissed for good reason. The Falun allows for 24/7 cultivation.

I thank you sincerely for checking out Zhuan Falun. I consider it to be the most useful book, literally.

Practitioners who are already somewhere and stick to Falun Dafa can raise levels. For example: Arhat to Tathagata if your Character and Virtue is high enough.

It develops Gong dude, it's serious business.

EDIT

It is not my Zhuan Falun. I am student. It is important to be very particular.

What denomination is Zhuan Falun? Sounds like Buddhism?

How does it take you from Arhat to Tathagata?

I'm not interested in developing powers or any such thing but am interested in reaching full potential.

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Re: Knowing nothing

[Re: circastes]
#16791856 - 09/05/12 10:45 AM (14 years, 1 day ago)

if you have nothing to lose, then you also have nothing to gain.

in this way there is balance.

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vi veri veniversum vivus vici

What she said :
"I smoke 'cos I'm hoping for an
Early death
AND I NEED TO CLING TO SOMETHING !"

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Mr.Al
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Re: Knowing nothing

[Re: lolwut]
#16793169 - 09/05/12 03:41 PM (14 years, 1 day ago)

Falun Dafa is a cultivation practice of the Buddha School, this means it is not a denomination because religions have denominations. Falun Gong do not go to Buddhist temples and pray or anything like that. Master Li is probably o.k. with visiting place like that but not getting involved in what they do.

He talks about how Gong is evolved, how that is a complex process, and if you add anything else to it the process will not work correctly.

Falun Dafa takes Virtue and evolves it into Gong. This is something that happens during the exercises and 24/7 because the Falun continues to turn unceasingly. Zhuan Falun mentions that breakthrough in levels occurs by riding your column. Virtue evolved into Gong, you go up with your column when you are sitting and there you are.

I have heard of Arhats that have some Virtue stored up, I think that is the best thing to do with it. Other practices do not evolve Gong on the main consciousness. Zhuan Falun mentions this and I have experienced this as True. That is why the main consciousness has to be aware, yet without mind intent, to accomplish this.

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lolwut
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Re: Knowing nothing

[Re: Mr.Al]
#16795859 - 09/05/12 10:35 PM (14 years, 1 day ago)

Interesting, I will give it a shot when/if I'm Arhat possibly. But what definitions are you using of Arhat/Tathagata? I thought Buddhism is the complete end of suffering and freedom from rebirth, and that in itself is the end.

What is Gong? Is that another word for the Kundalini energy?

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Mr.Al
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Re: Knowing nothing

[Re: lolwut]
#16795918 - 09/05/12 10:46 PM (14 years, 1 day ago)

lolwut said:

Interesting, I will give it a shot when/if I'm Arhat possibly. But what definitions are you using of Arhat/Tathagata? I thought Buddhism is the complete end of suffering and freedom from rebirth, and that in itself is the end.

What is Gong? Is that another word for the Kundalini energy?

Different level = Different Character Development That Occurred in the Individual. This means literally a very different experience, but the enlightened do not compare.

It is not religion, it is Cultivation Practice, very important distinction.

Gong is not Kundalini.

I am a student. I will not attempt to give you the most specific details. Consult Zhuan Falun available .pdf form for the exact details.

I'm a student does not teach friends.

I do tell jokes, that is o.k.

I can say Gong is very powerful.

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lolwut
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Re: Knowing nothing

[Re: Mr.Al]
#16796109 - 09/05/12 11:16 PM (14 years, 1 day ago)

Ok, well you've got me intrigued. Downloaded onto my Kindle and will read it after I'm done with this Buddhism text. Thanks for being clear and concise. :thumbup:

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Chronic7

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Re: Knowing nothing

[Re: lolwut]
#16803385 - 09/07/12 05:47 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Just cam across this so thread deserves a bump i feel...

Ramana Maharshi:
You have found out that you do not know anything, that itself is enough.
What more is required?

Questioner:
How to attain liberation by that much alone?

Ramana Maharshi:
Why not?
There is some one to know that he does not know anything.
It is sufficient if you could enquire and find out who that someone is.
Ego will develop if one thinks that one knows everything.
Instead of that, isn't it much better to be conscious of the fact that you do not know anything, and then enquire how you could gain liberation?

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Re: Knowing nothing

[Re: Chronic7]
#16808806 - 09/07/12 11:37 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Remember that we don't know enough about anything to judge, this seems to eliminate allot of anxiety and endless debate. As in stop judging oneself (how oneself was, is and will be), others and the world. That struggle within, no don't say anything about her arrogance, because what I want to say is only my arrogance.

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Mr.Al
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Re: Knowing nothing

[Re: Chronic7]
#16831146 - 09/11/12 07:47 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

When

The Chronic said:

Just cam across this so thread deserves a bump i feel...

Ramana Maharshi:
You have found out that you do not know anything, that itself is enough.
What more is required?

Q?

IF you can trip hard enough dude:

You return to the first moments of sentience.

You are first aware of Self,

Then you become aware of Ego.

To Return to that moment is Enlightenment.

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