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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Re: creation admits to shame and embarrassment. [Re: teknix]
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I'm not referring to everyone though, just Icelander.  God can have many aspects, he can be a goofy goober and a serious downer.  God's a pretty big paradox anyway, seeing as how god has no beginning or end and all that.


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Just when you think you're happy
I come around
I was meant to be
A punishment to you
A thorn in your side
A cancer eating through
I twist reality
And make it hard to bear
I am the only thing left
When love isn't there

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Re: creation admits to shame and embarrassment. [Re: ClosedEyeCigarette]
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The premise is in regards to that of creation, and icelander as a part or attribute of creation (or god as you said). . . Not to say that icelander is creation.


ClosedEyeCigarette said:
Icelander is a goofy goober.  Therefore, if we are created in God's image, God must be a goofy goober.




The fallacy is obvious for anyone with a lick of sense.

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Re: creation admits to shame and embarrassment. [Re: teknix]
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I'm going off of something I said, which is that if we are all created in God's image and Icelander is a goofy goober then God must be a goofy goober too.


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Just when you think you're happy
I come around
I was meant to be
A punishment to you
A thorn in your side
A cancer eating through
I twist reality
And make it hard to bear
I am the only thing left
When love isn't there

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Re: creation admits to shame and embarrassment. [Re: ClosedEyeCigarette]
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Exactly, god would have attributes of a goofy goober, the logic is valid, but not sound.

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Re: creation admits to shame and embarrassment. [Re: teknix]
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I don't see where the fallacy is.  The concept of god is pretty paradoxical and all kinds of people have different attributes so god is free to have conflicting attributes because paradox is god's nature, whatever god is.


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Just when you think you're happy
I come around
I was meant to be
A punishment to you
A thorn in your side
A cancer eating through
I twist reality
And make it hard to bear
I am the only thing left
When love isn't there

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Re: creation admits to shame and embarrassment. [Re: ClosedEyeCigarette]
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Here is an analogy since you seem to be unable to grasp the technical aspects of logic: You are using only an engine to describe the entire car. (Not even really the engine, more like just the tires being as shallow of an assertion that it is)

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Re: creation admits to shame and embarrassment. [Re: ClosedEyeCigarette]
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ClosedEyeCigarette said:
Consciousness is the soul.  The body is a vehicle for consciousness and there for a vehicle for the soul.  Shed your mortal coil fly free with me, bro :lsdabc:



I've flown on LSD likely way more than you.  But hey lets call the soul cotton candy or bullshit. Unless you have evidence that is.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: creation admits to shame and embarrassment. [Re: teknix]
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But I'm not trying to describe the whole car.

:derp:

Icelander said:
ClosedEyeCigarette said:
Consciousness is the soul.  The body is a vehicle for consciousness and there for a vehicle for the soul.  Shed your mortal coil fly free with me, bro :lsdabc:



I've flown on LSD likely way more than you.  But hey lets call the soul cotton candy or bullshit. Unless you have evidence that is.




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Just when you think you're happy
I come around
I was meant to be
A punishment to you
A thorn in your side
A cancer eating through
I twist reality
And make it hard to bear
I am the only thing left
When love isn't there

Edited by ClosedEyeCigarette (09/10/12 04:26 PM)

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Re: creation admits to shame and embarrassment. [Re: teknix]
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teknix said:
Here is an analogy since you seem to be unable to grasp the technical aspects of logic: You are using only an engine to describe the entire car. (Not even really the engine, more like just the tires being as shallow of an assertion that it is)



I never said I was describing the totality of creation.  Who is it that fails to grasp logic here?


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: creation admits to shame and embarrassment. [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
:thumbup:

I know this for a fact.  As I am part of creation and so a reflection of creation itself I feel shame and embarrassment for being such a stoopid, violent, and silly creation.  So I guess that's somethin. :shrug:


I feel shame when i'm not as good as other humans in areas. I don't feel shame for being human though. Both are just as futile and self-defeating though.

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Re: creation admits to shame and embarrassment. [Re: Memories]
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It's the same creation feeling shame imo.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: creation admits to shame and embarrassment. [Re: Icelander]
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If I could stop posting on internet message boards, there would be less shame and embarrassment.

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Re: creation admits to shame and embarrassment. [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
teknix said:
Here is an analogy since you seem to be unable to grasp the technical aspects of logic: You are using only an engine to describe the entire car. (Not even really the engine, more like just the tires being as shallow of an assertion that it is)



I never said I was describing the totality of creation.  Who is it that fails to grasp logic here?


The point is that you represent  < 1/7,000,000,000th of creation, waaaay less than.

So creation could just as well deny it, and there is no point to the claim. Let alone as a claim of creation, more of a claim from one created person?

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Re: creation admits to shame and embarrassment. [Re: teknix]
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1 in every 7,000,000,000 claims made on the internet are factual :themoreyouknow:


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Why shouldn't the truth be stranger than fiction?
Fiction, after all, has to make sense. -- Mark Twain

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Re: creation admits to shame and embarrassment. [Re: teknix]
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teknix said:
Icelander said:
teknix said:
Here is an analogy since you seem to be unable to grasp the technical aspects of logic: You are using only an engine to describe the entire car. (Not even really the engine, more like just the tires being as shallow of an assertion that it is)



I never said I was describing the totality of creation.  Who is it that fails to grasp logic here?


The point is that you represent  < 1/7,000,000,000th of creation, waaaay less than.

So creation could just as well deny it, and there is no point to the claim. Let alone as a claim of creation, more of a claim from one created person?



Doesn't matter if i'm half of creation any other amount. I'm still creation  thinking and this is what creation thinks. It also thinks other things, so what? Creation can just as well deny it but that doesn't change the facts that creation is thinking what I'm thinking.  This really shouldn't be that hard to grok.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: creation admits to shame and embarrassment. [Re: Icelander]
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You are a part of creation rather than being creation.

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Re: creation admits to shame and embarrassment. [Re: teknix]
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I'm both.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: creation admits to shame and embarrassment. [Re: Icelander]
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lol.

:rolleyes:

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Re: creation admits to shame and embarrassment. [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
I'm both.


Then how do you define creation?

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Re: creation admits to shame and embarrassment. [Re: teknix]
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everything that is


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

Edited by Icelander (09/11/12 12:24 AM)

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