"As soon as the technology is ready, genetic engineering must be made mandatory by fascist means for the good of not only the human race in it's entirety, but also each of it's individual members."
WONDERFUL!
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aint it !
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"Stupidity is a genetic disease, like hemophilia."
Do you seriously believe a person's intelligence is dicatated entirely by their genetics??
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I do
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"The bulk of this species has proven incapable of making it's own decisions. They appear to be breeding more than those who are capable. "
That's a nice general statement and all. But let's not forget the human race is comprised of INDIVIDUALS, wether some people act like cattle or not.
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The human race is mostly comprised of inviduals right now, but imprinted, brainwashed inviduals, who rely on religion or politics to govern their lifes.
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"If the government really was aimed towards the collective good of all, it would be spending the bulk of it's income on technology?"
This of course, leads to the question, What is your definition of "the collective good". Surely the collective could never agree on that.
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I would say the collective good is what doesn't get in the way of nature, and technology, but learns how to use it to their benefit.
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Ever play Civilization (or any game of that nature)? Doesn't the culture who climbs the tech-tree the fastest win (along with all of it's members, which becomes all humanity)?
What happens after you WIN a video game?? That's it. Game over. No more game to play. I would prefer to play the game as nature has laid it out rather than race to some technological eutopia where people are actually deluded enough to believe that all of humanities problems could be erased by manipulating the human genome.
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Who defines nature! We do, and I say nature is whatever is possible!!! Nature made us, which has a brain that uses electricity to work! Nature is what is around us, just take a look, science is natural because it fits in the boundaries of what is possible.
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Why should we allow anyone to be born into a inferior body?
For one thing, because it is less intrusive into peoples lives them FORCING people to comply with a fascistly-implemented human engineering plan.
Aside from that, your question sounds like something Data from Star Trek would ask. I could give you a typical Captain Piccard type response: Something along the lines of "Well, Data, you wouldn't understand this because you're just a fucking robot, but human suffering and hardship are actually very powerful catalysts for human change, development, and progress." By the way, i dont watch Star Trek so if this doesn't sound right, well whatever.
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So you would rather be born with an inferior body?
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Basically, what you are saying is that anyone alive at this very moment who is afflicted with a disease or deformity or malfunction is somehow less human or less valid than a non-afflicted, "perfectly healthy" person. Maybe you need a good disease or two to enhance your appreciation for this life that you are fortunate enough to live right now.
Look at Stephen Hawkins. Sure, he is severely disabled and cant even talk without the aid of his wheelchair, but he has pushed very far into his field and forced the scientific community to evaluate alot of theory. Sure, some of his stuff has been disproven, but so what. The point is, because of his "disability", Hawkins focused his energy on something other than going about his daily routine. Weelchair bound, he did alot for science. Now he is just one simple example.
Now if everyone was "perfect" and without any biological malfunction as you suggest, don't you think the majority of the population would become complacent? Thus becoming even bigger wastes. Do you think, after awhile, that anyone would really appreciate their "superior" status amongst a populous of fellow "superiors"? No, they'd take it for granted just like everyone eventually takes everything for granted. Nothing would be different, mankind would still have just as many problems, just different ones.
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I beleive that future evolution, that contains these supiror humans, will be well past their invidual selfish desires that create problems like violence.
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Furthermore, do you really think mankind's science is perfect enough to fool nature? On the most basic level, I foresee immense complications as the result of toying with a science that is not perfect and never will be. Besides that, there is a reason things become diseased, and on a macro-level, it is simply population control. Cancer and hemophilia and hepatitis and all the nasty diseases which afflict mankind and all other species of life is natures way of saying, "Alright, you done fucked up now, time for a purge." And do you a think a person who had their cancer gene removed but smoked 5 packs a day, ate nothing but red meat, and lived next to a nuclear waster site would still not develop cancer. Whatever dude. And if they didn't, it would be something equally nasty or worse like emphesema or liver failure or something.
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Right now, are science isn't perfect enough to fool nature, maybe it will be sometime in the future.
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Where do people get off thinking genes is all there is to the human experience?
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From experimentation.
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Main point is, Nature rules, and there is nothing we can do about it.
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May I remind you, that we are part of nature. And There is plenty I can do with my life. I appreciate that nature has allowed man the luxuries of such things as devices to give us warmth.
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Edited by Earth_Droid (10/22/02 01:31 AM)
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