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The creepy thing about suicide is...
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A young man is about to kill himself in his truck in the woods, but before he could finish, he is attacked by bears; the man flees for his life.

Today someone who was a regular customer at my work place hung himself and this thought has been nagging me constantly.


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Re: The creepy thing about suicide is... [Re: Zahid]
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There was a study done that showed people driving somewhere to commit suicide will be overrun by the instinct to survive and will, in fact, swerve to avoid getting into an accident.

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Re: The creepy thing about suicide is... [Re: Adden]
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how ever would they carry out that study?


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Re: The creepy thing about suicide is... [Re: Adden]
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Thats very strange.


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Re: The creepy thing about suicide is... [Re: Sole_Worthy]
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how ever would they carry out that study? 


Well, you start out by asking all the people that want to die to meet at the psych building.  After they fill out a sheet with a bunch of questions you tell them that there are a bunch of loaded guns, to be used for the final act, at some location a few miles away.  While the people drive from the psych building to the killing grounds, you have your grad students push wild deer out onto the road in front of their car.  The grad students then record the number of suicidal drivers that swerve away from the deer as opposed to those that try to end it sooner by crashing into the deer.  There may be a few fine points to work out... ethics, etc... :smile:


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Re: The creepy thing about suicide is... [Re: Seuss]
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what if the people have more respect for the deer than for themselves?


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Re: The creepy thing about suicide is... [Re: Sole_Worthy]
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what if the people have more respect for the deer than for themselves?


Thats what I was thinking...plus maybe they're afraid they'll survive...or in there head they see the deer as something trying to stop them from killing themselves...


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Re: The creepy thing about suicide is... [Re: DailyPot]
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you could try feeling compassion and empathy for your friend who made the ultimate sacrifice. Although this is complete conjecture, though not normally unfounded, most people who comitt suicide are driven by inner demons which drive them mad due to severe depression and an acute lack of appreciation for life. On the same token, we too, are in many ways, on many days, just like him. Driven by anger, fear, jealousy, desire, madness..... and getting in touch with this inner pain in ourselves and understanding it can allways help us to feel greater compassion for others who are suffering.

a story i heard somewhere:

one day, Lord Buddha was walking down a river with his deciple enjoying the stream and the birds and blue sky, singing a prayerful melody to the Buddhas.

along came a man of sin, driven by powerful emotions and insane thinking. He stopped the buddha and his deciple and said, " you, ive heard you. you say you are enlightened, haven gone beyond the fetters of the mundane mind and attained transendence and enlightnment, but to me, you are nothing but a charlatan" where upon he slapped lord buddha in the face and walked away.

the buddha calmly smiled and continued to walk along the riverside smiling and wistling to the birds.

eventually, his deciple, could not take it anylonger, and feeling moved by a disturbed mind, turned to the buddha and said, " Lord Buddha, Bhagavan, how can you just turn the other cheek and continue to remain happy and loving in the face of such an angry and confused man? " whereupon the buddha stopped, looked into the sky and said, "because i understand my own anger, and the only appropriate response is compassion"

In life, there are many things we are all powerless to do anything about. Sometimes, the best thing we can do is simply love others and pray for them.


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Re: The creepy thing about suicide is... [Re: bluepie]
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i often think about suicide, so much in fact it would seem insane not to do it. Your chances of going to a better place are 50/50, thats good enough for me, i just aint ready yet, i gotta do mush at least once more, thats all i care about in my life.


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Re: The creepy thing about suicide is... [Re: ViBrAnT]
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"Your chances of going to a better place are 50/50"

there are no chances because you dont know if there is an afterlife for sure.


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Re: The creepy thing about suicide is... [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
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Wouldn't that make it 50/50 that there might be an afterlife?


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Re: The creepy thing about suicide is... [Re: Zahid]
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Well, what are the chances that Unicorns exist? Would you say it's 50/50?


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Re: The creepy thing about suicide is... [Re: silversoul7]
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Unicorns and an afterlife. Apples and Oranges.


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Re: The creepy thing about suicide is... [Re: Zahid]
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no my friend....unicorns are the afterlife....you'll see one day, when you open your third eye.


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Re: The creepy thing about suicide is... [Re: Zahid]
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The only reason why there might be a 50/50 chance of an afterlife is because there either is or is not an afterlife. There's also a 50/50 chance of my lights being on. That's not really how it works though, because we are talking about degrees of possiblity and not just 'afterlife/no afterlife'.


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Re: The creepy thing about suicide is... [Re: bert]
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"50/50" should not be taken too literally as it can be thrown around loosely, like here for example.

When you die, there will either be an afterlife, or no afterlife - 50/50.


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Re: The creepy thing about suicide is... [Re: Zahid]
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A better analogy would be if you were saying that I have a 50/50 chance of dying tomorrow. Either I will or I won't, but that doesn't mean the odds are even.


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Re: The creepy thing about suicide is... [Re: silversoul7]
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who is changing the odds?


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Re: The creepy thing about suicide is... [Re: ViBrAnT]
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when the box lid opened, schroedinger's cat's probabillity wave function collapses...
ummmmmm...
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suicide option should be like abotion option; a personal decision, undertaken only for valid reason, with sufficient compassionate counseling beforehand, and not done for trivial purpose...
and should be done right...
drawbacks to suicide are possibly several:
you might screw it up
your relatives might be heartbroken
you might have overestimated the severity of your "unbearable burden"
somebody's gotta clean up the mess (physical, psychic, legal, etc...)
karmic debt
possible destination (from studies like moody & kubler-ross, etc... NDEs, y'know... those who have gone thru death's door & been brought back... the ones who report contact experiences who died by accident or from "natural causes" & were rescuscitated described the meetings as joyous occasions... while those who ended up in the e.r. as the result of suicide (attempts, ok - even for those who managed to flatline...) described their experiences as something resembling a glimpse of hell...
& of course, the law; (from "it's a wonderful life": "suicide's illegal in these parts!" ("it's agin' th' laws of man & god..." i think somebody said)


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Re: The creepy thing about suicide is... [Re: ViBrAnT]
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i often think about suicide, so much in fact it would seem insane not to do it. Your chances of going to a better place are 50/50, thats good enough for me, i just aint ready yet, i gotta do mush at least once more, thats all i care about in my life.




Here, her, though i don't think that im looking for heaven or hell, just "NO existance", kinda like an eternal sleep, not to care, or even care to care.

Most of my life was in contiplation of it. If i was given the choice not to be born, i probibily wouldn't have wanted to be born. Basically im tired of CONSTANT misery and pain. Now days it isn't as bad as before, however.


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