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Re: Ever produced LSD? [Re: SouthernGulfStyle]
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Rye


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Re: Ever produced LSD? [Re: wicca mixer]
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wicca mixer said:
Ergot is so easy to find growing on various types on wild grass. Just look for grainy grasses. I usually find it in late summer to early autumn, and actually found some on some very long grass. I pick the top part of the grass that has it and put it in a plastic bag, so avoiding actually touching the sclerota. I also noticed these little red bugs actually mating on the sclerota, and some just sitting solitary on them.
        I have read that insects eat the honeydew stuff that the sclerota exude, which they get stuck on them and infects other grains that they land on by spreading the ergot infection via the honeydew stuff. This makes it easy to find the ergot. Pretty much every piece of grass that had these insects on, carried ergot sclerota. It doesnt take long to collect a reasonable amount of Ergot. A simple LSA extraction will give you what you need as starting material. From there the chemicals are obviously needed. 

I read that car starter fluid is diethyl ether, but this needs to be proven. But with the diethyl ether, it must be possible to make into diethyl amine using maybe ammonia with sulphuric acid as a catalyst?

Just my 0.000000000001 penny's worth..



So what's the possibility of collecting a small amount of ergot and then spawning it on rye berries or something to make a large amount of ergot?

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Re: Ever produced LSD? [Re: Boba JFET]
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My sister in law's friend was studying organic chemisty while he was at a university and he ended up making a little bit. Not sure how good it was but she said she tripped off of it at a concert.
So i guess it is possible, probably pretty hard as well to make good good lucy


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Re: Ever produced LSD? [Re: Boba JFET]
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dont even try, ive already posted about way easier and safer precursors to use (even if buying them could be sketchy) but at least u wont get gangrene with them like with ergot.


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Re: Ever produced LSD? [Re: liveby]
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I believe a good method wwould be to make the precursors from household objects. Make a culture of ergot, ferment it, extract the thinges.

Make some diethylamide from vodka

Make them fuck

yay

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Re: Ever produced LSD? [Re: Smeeeeg]
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This has been covered ad nauseum on this thread, but if someone knew how to synthesize LSD and does it/did it/will do it, and is on this board, they ain't talking.

It's fascinating-I'd really like to speak to someone who has, but you really think on an open, public forum accessible from any computer in the world, that someone would? Hell no.
That said-the science itself is pretty straightforward. Most biochemistry or chemistry majors could probably do it after a certain point, and if they had, they're still not talking.
The subject itself is too darn risky to put yourself out there like that.

Again, the largest hurdle is obtaining the precursors to synthesize and unless you're in a laboratory setting, those aren't going to be obtainable. Now please, stop fighting about why people make it, who makes it, if they make it, when they made it, blah blah blah.

The topic is finished. I think a mod should just close the thread already.


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(Thanks to Sui for letting me use this!)

"....buy small portions of say 1/2 gram...buy from a reliable internet source (they're out there) and store in a cool, dark, secret place"

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Re: Ever produced LSD? [Re: KinichAhau]
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i agree with the part about most people not admitting to making it, but if u think about it, alot of people wouldnt care, this site is full of people cultivating illegal drugs all the time, asking for help on how to do it, talking about their experiences, "putting themselves out there". it is DIFFICULT finding a source, but u dont NEED to be a scientist to get a hold of precursors, and i have a feeling ur one of the people that wouldnt believe me, but i already posted about a friend of mine that has already synthesized LSD. He found out where to get them from a book all about synthesizing drugs, if they have books discussing MDMA synthesis whys it so hard to find one about LSD synthesis? i saw his equipment and everything, this was a few months ago, and were tripping off his results to this day. :smile:


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Re: Ever produced LSD? [Re: Eminence]
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you can't just get any old ergot fungus and synth acid. there is a specific strain of ergot that is cultivated that has a large amount of ergotamine alkaloids in it for medical purposes you need. it's not as easy as you think it is.


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:minifo:] "This promise constitutes the heart of my Christian beliefs and my call to natural-scientific research: we will attain to knowledge of the universe through the spirit of truth, and thereby to understanding of our being one with the deepest, most comprehensive reality, God."
-Albert Hofmann

Edited by Doctor_Dick (08/06/10 04:06 PM)

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Re: Ever produced LSD? [Re: Eminence]
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Edited by Austrip (11/01/10 10:36 AM)

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Re: Ever produced LSD? [Re: Austrip]
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well a trained monkey can make meth, at least mdma has a little learning curve to it


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:minifo:] "This promise constitutes the heart of my Christian beliefs and my call to natural-scientific research: we will attain to knowledge of the universe through the spirit of truth, and thereby to understanding of our being one with the deepest, most comprehensive reality, God."
-Albert Hofmann

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Re: Ever produced LSD? [Re: Doctor_Dick]
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Edited by Austrip (11/01/10 10:35 AM)

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Re: Ever produced LSD? [Re: Austrip]
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i assume you are replying to me..but al i can say is..it happened. with the right starting materials its really not THAT hard. total synthesis is a completely different story, that would cost a shit load of money total. but with the right precursors, u basically have multiple steps in total synthesis already complete. im not saying my friends budget was low, but it was nowhere near a hundred grand. it was a few thousand though, a large part of it was attributed to the lab equipment. despite what u hear, lsd is not impossible to make. like i said to the other guy, im expecting people to think im lying because the whole "i had a friend who did this and that" doesnt mean much on the internet, but in all seriousness with alot of hard work and some sketchy business buying precursors and alot of extra time, my friend DID synthesize LSD


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Re: Ever produced LSD? [Re: Eminence]
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Edited by Austrip (11/01/10 10:35 AM)

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Re: Ever produced LSD? [Re: Austrip]
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well i agree he wouldn't want me to give out his name, but he wont give a shit if i talk about him anonymously..but you do need a reasonable amount of precursors, but not exactly pounds, you may have to buy in bulk, but if u do, u dont need to use all of it. but what i meant by that is, with total synthesis u need to start from the most basic chemicals, do some synthesis and create another precursor with that synthesis to continue, with the right starting materials like lysergic acid monohydrate, u can step alot of steps because u dont need to synthesize lysergic acid, or extract lsa. and as for his experience, he was taking inorganic chemistry, but he had only been in class for a month, so i doubt that really contributed to it, and when he finished he was surprised, he told me he thought it would be way harder. understanding the process is what it seems like most people think takes extreme skill, but according to him, it was more of the precision and care that had to be taken while doing it. and im glad u dont doubt me, i have no reason to lie on the internet lol. im basically just trying to let people know that its not as hard as its made out to be.


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Re: Ever produced LSD? [Re: Eminence]
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:partykid:

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Re: Ever produced LSD? [Re: Eminence]
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It's really not that hard to do as everyone thinks, don't get me wrong it's extremely difficult and I know I'll never pull it off but if you were really dedicated to it it's really not that hard. Hardest part is getting the ergot which you can get in various ways without having any kind of chemistry degree. People on this site always talk about it like you'd have to be a fucking god to pull it off but that's just not the case. It might take you years to put toghether the precursors but I'd bet just about anyone who can graduate high school could pull it off if they were dedicated enough, but it would definitely take years of self teaching and collecting chemicals. It all comes down to dedication if you want it bad enough and are willing to put in years of effort and not get discouraged you could probably do it, but your certainly not gonna learn how to do it or get the chemicals in just a few months time and 99.9% of people just aren't willing to put that much effort in.

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Re: Ever produced LSD? [Re: Mycjunky]
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hhh..not starting shit bro, im glad u know u dont need to be hoffman to synthesize it,(im expecting some flames) but its not even as hard as ur saying to get the chemicals, and maybe for some people it would take years, but for the majority of people that know at least some things about chemistry it wouldnt take nearly that long. look up professor buzz recreational drugs, it has a lot of synthesis for various drugs, thats why i plan on getting it, ive been studying on how to synthesize mdma, but if u look at the synthesis and read i over a couple times, im sure u could understand it fine. im not saying any moron can make it, you do have to have some feel for chemistry, but i get this feeling alot of people on shroomery might have at least some knowledge on chemistry, just from interest and research, i may be wrong but u should check it out. its probably on bittorrent somewhere.


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Re: Ever produced LSD? [Re: Austrip]
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Austrip said:
It's not possible to the average person, the process requires access to a full lab, not just backyard equipment. Cooking meth or MDMA isn't even comparable to the process involved in creating acid.
junkies can cook both XTC and methamphetamine, acid? no way. 

Some estimates put it as high as $100,000 just for the equipment needed.
One of the hardest parts being that the process needs to be completed in different stages of light (like a photolab)

the precursors are possible to get with connections, but you'll need alot of money to secure enough for you to even ATTEMPT to create LSD. by this I mean, it most certainly will take you a few batches to make acid right, if you manage to at all, and each time your probably going to lose a few thousand dollars, possibly 10s of thousands of dollars just through trial and error.

and even if you do manage to get to this stage, theres still the fact that LSD is an extremely unstable chemical, that can be completely changed (be completely inactive) if the tinyest little thing goes wrong with the process.
Experienced org chemists with years under their belts still have alot of trouble with LSD, due to its unstability, it can degrade very quickly. especially in the production process.
there are many stages throughout the making of LSD, where the smallest error can destroy the batch entirely. 

The only way I can see it happening is if a person has

-Access to in between $100,000-500,000
-A few years of Organic Chem under their belt
-access to a full lab, undisturbed.
-a source for precursors
and last of all, a shit load of luck.






I like your hypothesis, but i disagree

If one is skilled with all concepts of chemistry one can do nearly anything. It's like making a cake, you need an oven, and a few bowls and mixing receptacles (and of course the ingredients) but you dont need to purchase "THE CAKEMASTERBATOR500 tm" or other thingies. like for some synths you can be clandestine, and if you are careful an dknow your stuff acid can be done as well, but it requires precision and the careful understandings of chemistry and alchemy

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Re: Ever produced LSD? [Re: Smeeeeg]
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Re: Ever produced LSD? [Re: Austrip]
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youre right, the equipment is expensive, but not thousands and thousands of dollars worth. and u really dont need 10+ years experience in chemistry. idk if u read my post, but the friend of mine that did it had a month hands on experience with the chemicals needed for LSD, he did "months" of reading and self teaching on chemistry, then he put it to the test, very carefully i should add. but my friend is proof that u dont need years of experience and extreme amounts of money to be successful. my friend is only 22. and no, he didnt synthesize some DOx compound or anything else, ive dosed at least 60 times so theres no mistaking what lsd feels like, plus the fact that the dose was so miniscule that it had to be lsd. i saw his equipment and everything. and i mentioned total synthesis earlier..thats whats hard about lsd synthesis. maybe he was lucky or something, but i doubt that someone would be "lucky" enough to successfully pull of an lsd synth. plus, theres been newer, easier ways to synthesize it in the past years.


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