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using creatine
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i started working out yesterday using a 25lb dumb bell and a bar with 25 lbs on each side, 50 lbs total.

right now im only doing 2 reps of 20 on each arm using the dumb bell and 2-3 reps of 30 using the bar. afterwards i drink that 6 Star Muscle Creatine. is this a waste using the creatine? anything i need to do or not do while doing these work outs? any suggestions?

all im looking to do is build my arms, chest, shoulders, back, and stomach.

how the fuck do i get rid of this beer belly?


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Re: using creatine [Re: Dunno]
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Not positive on this, but i'm pretty sure typically you take creatine before the work out, and protein after the work out...generally speaking....



But i really couldn't tell ya :shrug:....


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Re: using creatine [Re: Dunno]
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Get the book "Starting Strength" by Mark Rippetoe.

Forget the supplement shit, just train hard (your entire body) and eat a good meal every 3 hours.

BIG compound exercises, don't isolate... the bar is significantly better then the dumbells.

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Re: using creatine [Re: Chubba]
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Creatine gives your muscles a puffy look and I think it helps with recovery.

To get rid of the beer belly you'll have to diet and exercise you cannot isolate fat loss.

I'd look into the different exercises you can do with dumb bells and the bar, you don't need much more than those to get your self a decent upper body workout regimen.


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Re: using creatine [Re: pmb]
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Quote:
I'd look into the different exercises you can do with dumb bells and the bar, you don't need much more than those to get your self a decent upper body workout regimen.



You don't need any weights to get ripped.

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Re: using creatine [Re: Chubba]
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I didn't say you need them he wants to build his upper body and has the tools to do it so why not use them? Of course he can supplement his weight lifting with body weight exercises and cardio.


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Re: using creatine [Re: pmb]
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I'm just not a big fan of isolation exercises.

Compound exercises... either bodyweight or weights is the way to go.

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Re: using creatine [Re: Dunno]
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Dunno said:
how the fuck do i get rid of this beer belly?



Didn't you drink THREE Monsters today?

That's like.... 600 calories.

rofl


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Re: using creatine [Re: pmb]
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Creatine blows..I used it when I was on wrestling, made me get bigger but not ripped..it just made me look husky. And as soon as I stopped using it, it all went away and I actually saw my muscles, not these blown up arms. Its basically like water weight, did nothing.

There are plenty of things you can take that will get you jacked and actually help you gain muscle(not illegal steroids), but they are seriously bad for your liver.


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Re: using creatine [Re: Chubba]
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Get the book "Starting Strength" by Mark Rippetoe.

-so far the best advice in the thread

As for the creatine, you're supposed to use it befor you lift.

I'm a fitness major and over the last 6 months have put on 10-15 pounds of mostly muscle and minimal amount of fat.

your sets should me 3 sets of 12.  that last rep should be damn near impossible.  As for what you should eat, 40x40x20 rule. 
40% protein
40% carbs
20% fats.

isolation exercises are great, dont be afraid to work out a single muscle but if for some reason you could only do ONE exercise, make it squats because they are the best there is.

Edited by PreparationH (02/01/10 07:55 PM)

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Re: using creatine [Re: PreparationH]
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Also I should add that I have never used creatine and never will.
When you lift weights all you are doing is breaking down your muscle by tearing the fibers.  You then eat protein so the muscle rebuilds.

Many people say you don't need to supplement with protein but this is just my opinion: Sure, you can buy a shit ton of chicken breast and cook it for the week and every meal eat some chicken, I did this for a while and it works(obviously) but after a while the money begins to add up big time.

Go out and buy a tub of dynatize whey protein, lift 3 sets of 12 of a weight that makes you struggle, but you can do the sets.  After the workout, drink water immediately with one scoop of dynatize in it. Throughout the day also eat more than normal.  If you want to be a 250 pound man, you must eat like a 250 pound man. 

Also, read up on bulking and cutting.  Last year I went from 135 pound to 157 pounds in about 8 months.  During the summer I went on a restricted calorie diet and began to lose fat by cardiovascular exercise(running, jump rope, bmx, and heavy bag training) and I dropped back down to 145.  I gained 10 pounds of muscle and was RIPPED, I had an 11 pack and all.  No 12 pack though my body for some reason wont let it appear lol.

so when I began my bulking faze again in september, I went from 145 to my current 157 pounds.  I'm trying to get myself up to around 165ish then come april, start cardio(while still lifting) to cut fat and get back to that "competition" look

Edited by PreparationH (02/01/10 07:52 PM)

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