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InvisibleMoonshoe
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Testosterone supplements
    #23346666 - 06/15/16 10:03 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

About a month ago I started taking a "Testosterone Catalyst" called "Mr. T".

I take four pills a day before my workouts for three months (three bottles, I bottle = 1 month supply)

I wasn't sure how much to really expect, but was quite surprised to see that after being plateaued for what seems like forever (working out hours a day but not making any real muscle gains) my muscles rapidly began increasing in size and definition.

In particular my arms got rapidly larger, and that was the one area I most wanted to improve on.

My wife was shocked by how rapidly and significantly they had changed.

I got the supplement at GNC. I remember recently hearing Joe Rogan say many supplements sold at GNC are actually steroids.

The ingredient that I think has the biggest impact is the "Steroidal Extract of Tribulus" which basically is a natural steroid derived from a herb.

I have also noticed great increases in my strength and energy during workouts, although this could be placebo.

My wife and I held a cabin party recently and several of our friends who have known me all my life commented on how muscular I had become, and I was  already fairly ripped, but now I am finally making further gains.

Here is a list of the ingredients:



My purpose in making this thread was simply to tip you guys off that from my experience at least, this stuff actually WORKS and is worth the considerable price tag.

The thing is, I am now 29. A male reaches his physical peak at 26 and then begins a long decline. A large part of this decline is caused by testosterone levels decreasing with age.

Resistance workouts (lifting weights) are one of the most important ways to slow aging.

So to my mind now that I am nearing 30, the time is right to begin testosterone supplementation.

The product is called Mr. T by Athletic Alliance.

Its herbal and non prescription and certified free of banned substances or drugs.

I don't work for them or anything like that, I just stopped in a GNC and this was the product the salesperson recommended.

I figured it was worth a shot and wasnt expecting much.

The crazy thing was even without working out much I started to get bigger, and when I started hitting the gym it accelerated.

Just wanted to share that for anyone else looking to gain muscle or slow aging.

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Re: Testosterone supplements [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23346699 - 06/15/16 10:14 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Sounds good. I'm going to check it out this weekend.

Before/After pics (or it didn't happen, tehehhe)


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Re: Testosterone supplements [Re: plasma]
    #23346724 - 06/15/16 10:21 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Im curious..

So its not some anabolic steroid that slipped passed the FDA and landed on GNC's shelf?

I took a cycle of Pro Growth Hormones and that shit was practically steroids and I got it right from a vitamin/supplement shop.  It ended up fucking me up and making me sick im pretty sure.


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Re: Testosterone supplements [Re: plasma]
    #23346757 - 06/15/16 10:30 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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plasma said:
Sounds good. I'm going to check it out this weekend.

Before/After pics (or it didn't happen, tehehhe)




Ok here is before pics:





And here is from today after 1 month (1 third of the way through the recommended 3 bottle cycle)







I will post after pics after 2 and 3 months, and ill get my wife to take some pics so I dont have to hold the camera

Sort of hard to see the gains in these pics :shrug:


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Re: Testosterone supplements [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23346766 - 06/15/16 10:32 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah I see results. I'll give it a try. How much is a bottle

How much commission do you get if I purchase?


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Re: Testosterone supplements [Re: plasma]
    #23346777 - 06/15/16 10:34 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Its expensive... I think you can get it for like 70 bucks for a month supply and the recommended cycle is three months consecutive use...

I get no commission :lol:


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Invisibleplasma
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Re: Testosterone supplements [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23346786 - 06/15/16 10:38 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Moonshoe said:

I get no commission



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Re: Testosterone supplements [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23346804 - 06/15/16 10:42 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

See my whole hunch with these is I wonder what the side effects of these random chems are

for example, I took modafinil daily and thought I was benefitting, only to realize that I was fucking up my sleep and digging myself into a long term sleep debt. The pros of modafinil quickly outweigh the cons. It did what it was meant to do; increase focus, but had a slew of random ass side effects that basically negated the list of pros long term

Similalry, WTF is in horny goat weed? And by what biochemical process does promote muscle growth


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Re: Testosterone supplements [Re: topdog82] * 2
    #23346854 - 06/15/16 10:56 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I don't know man, I've heard a lot of these testosterone supplements are complete placebo - more or less. To a point that is. If there is very real growth, perhaps it has more to do with your natural growth because of all the work you have been putting in, as opposed to any effect of a testosterone supplement. Or rather, perhaps the supplement has an anabolic steroid in it that you are not aware of that differs from the testosterone itself?

I've read you can get a limited amount of growth with extremely high doses, but that those doses aren't typically found in supplements, and that it can often be mixed with stuff that is terrible for the liver in the long run. Not really bashing it or anything though, I could be wrong. I've just been turned off to the idea of testosterone supplements through all the research on them.


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Re: Testosterone supplements [Re: topdog82]
    #23346870 - 06/15/16 11:00 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Well you have to consider the specific supplement. If you check it out, this one is all natural, just herbal stuff and vitamins, no "random chems".

You can read up on how each component works:

http://www.athleticalliance.net/mr-t?route=product/mrt


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Re: Testosterone supplements [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23346991 - 06/15/16 11:37 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

5-HTP and Strychnine come from herbs. Did you hear of the recent 5-HTP findings?


But that supplement may be fine.


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Re: Testosterone supplements [Re: Bozko]
    #23347130 - 06/15/16 12:18 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I experimented with Androstene back when it was legal (implicated with Mark McGwire's home runs) and I gained 15 lbs in a month at a time when I was already lifting and eating and not gaining any weight. I had these pills that dissolved in your mouth and I felt amped after I took them like I could work out for hours. Have no idea if it leads to health problems, I quit taking it because I wasn't willing to pay the money for it.


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Re: Testosterone supplements [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23347173 - 06/15/16 12:32 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

It's all junk crap now.  If it had testosterone or even a precursor to testosterone it would be illegal and not be on shelves in a store.

Up until 2005 it was legal for precursors and near the end they also started actual steroids basically as research chemicals.

If you want to get fucking HUGE fast, research Superdrol and find some on ebay,,, or just get the real thing and stop wasting your money.


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Re: Testosterone supplements [Re: RobZombie68]
    #23347194 - 06/15/16 12:41 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

It seems like the benefits of this supplement are more in enhancing energy, reducing stress, increasing libido, improving mood, and mildly tweaking the balance of hormones away from estrogen and towards testosterone.

One thing that makes me thing it is actually increasing testosterone is that not only did I notice accelerated muscle growth, I also experienced a worsening of acne on my thighs.

Not a good thing obviously, but more acne is associated with testosterone increase. Fortunately its not anywhere visible.

A lot of the supplement is like a nutritional supplement- I have a friend who has been telling me how important zinc is for men as they ejaculate it with every load.

And a lot of it is adaptogens that increase resistance to stress and thereby reduce fatigue.

Its not a steroid or going to be anywhere remotely close to HGH, TRT, Anabolics etc.

But im not looking to go that far. This product at least seems safe and im comfortable with its ingredients.

To be honest i wasnt expecting much (I take many supplements and rarely notice any obvious results) and this product has already exceeded my expectations.

I think what this does do is give me more motivation and energy for my workouts, which translates to more results.

And In a funny way paying so much for the supplement motivates me to put in more effort so its not wasted :lol:


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Re: Testosterone supplements [Re: RobZombie68]
    #23347235 - 06/15/16 12:53 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

RobZombie68 said:
It's all junk crap now.  If it had testosterone or even a precursor to testosterone it would be illegal and not be on shelves in a store.

Up until 2005 it was legal for precursors and near the end they also started actual steroids basically as research chemicals.

If you want to get fucking HUGE fast, research Superdrol and find some on ebay,,, or just get the real thing and stop wasting your money.






Dis. If it actually worked it would be illegal.

Same way diet supplements aren't miracle pills to shed weight without working out and a change of diet. If they actually worked there would be no fat people because doctors would prescribe the pills. Instead obesity rates hit new highs every damn year.


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Re: Testosterone supplements [Re: Ahab McBathsalts]
    #23347283 - 06/15/16 01:08 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Tribulus is good for about a week. Your body will adjust to it, and you'll suffer a big testosterone deficit for a while after you quit taking it. Theres no such thing as a biological free lunch.

The best off the shelf supplement ive found is cordyceps mushroom, but it's more of a cardio thing.


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Re: Testosterone supplements [Re: Sticky Green]
    #23347303 - 06/15/16 01:14 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

maca powder and horny goat weed is some serious libido boosting stuff

herbs and plants are potent


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Re: Testosterone supplements [Re: thelanzii]
    #23347307 - 06/15/16 01:16 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Superdrol ftw


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Re: Testosterone supplements [Re: PatrickKn] * 1
    #23347321 - 06/15/16 01:19 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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PatrickKn said:
I don't know man, I've heard a lot of these testosterone supplements are complete placebo - more or less. To a point that is. If there is very real growth, perhaps it has more to do with your natural growth because of all the work you have been putting in, as opposed to any effect of a testosterone supplement. Or rather, perhaps the supplement has an anabolic steroid in it that you are not aware of that differs from the testosterone itself?

I've read you can get a limited amount of growth with extremely high doses, but that those doses aren't typically found in supplements, and that it can often be mixed with stuff that is terrible for the liver in the long run. Not really bashing it or anything though, I could be wrong. I've just been turned off to the idea of testosterone supplements through all the research on them.




Some of it has some scientific legitimacy

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3863556/

Quote:

Forty-six male patients with oligospermia (sperm count < 20 million/mL semen) were enrolled and randomized either to treatment (n = 21) with a full-spectrum root extract of Ashwagandha (675 mg/d in three doses for 90 days) or to placebo (n = 25) in the same protocol. Semen parameters and serum hormone levels were estimated at the end of 90-day treatment. There was a 167% increase in sperm count (9.59 ± 4.37 × 106/mL to 25.61 ± 8.6 × 106/mL; P < 0.0001), 53% increase in semen volume (1.74 ± 0.58 mL to 2.76 ± 0.60 mL; P < 0.0001), and 57% increase in sperm motility (18.62 ± 6.11% to 29.19 ± 6.31%; P < 0.0001) on day 90 from baseline. The improvement in these parameters was minimal in the placebo-treated group.




There was also a noted increase in testosterone levels in the ashwagandha test group



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Re: Testosterone supplements [Re: plasma]
    #23347354 - 06/15/16 01:30 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

TF? contains horny goat weed  :barbershreds:

sounds great :drinkndrive:


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