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topdog82
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just looked at the ingredient list. Looks fairly safe. As you said, perhaps the supps contain legit anabolics in low amounts
So I understand it, supps can literally contain anything as they are not really regulated. But assuming it is what it says it is (most likely) it looks safe. Really just vitamins and herbs
Just because it is an herb does not mean its safe. Maca gave me some seriously wierd side effects for some reason. Just saying
Also; just looked up superdrol. I didn't know research steroids existed. Thats a cool concept. I hope it is still legal in about 10-20 years. I plan on hoping on TRT when I am like 40. I can prolly get it from a doctor but worst case I could get it via superdrol
Please update if you keep taking it
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Re: Testosterone supplements [Re: topdog82]
#23347411 - 06/15/16 01:43 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Knowing GNC other sources are likely considerably cheaper.
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Watch out for ball cancer. Check the studies and reports of ball cancer caused by those and related supplements.
Testicular that is.
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Moonshoe
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Re: Testosterone supplements [Re: trees]
#23347428 - 06/15/16 01:47 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm not aware of any such studies can you link some please ?
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Re: Testosterone supplements [Re: Moonshoe]
#23347436 - 06/15/16 01:48 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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the horny goat weed will counter react the cancerous effects
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Just google "testicular cancer supplements"
Not sayin I think they CAUSE it but if there's any talk of that with any substance, then I pretty much choose not to use it. Excluding marijuana and life in general.
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Re: Testosterone supplements [Re: trees]
#23347561 - 06/15/16 02:20 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Your not making any sense.
Show me one scrap of evidence any of the ingredients in this supplement have in any way been associated with testicular cancer.
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Re: Testosterone supplements [Re: Moonshoe]
#23347628 - 06/15/16 02:44 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Moonshoe said: Your not making any sense.
Show me one scrap of evidence any of the ingredients in this supplement have in any way been associated with testicular cancer.
I have a close friend taking chemo right now for testicular cancer. he's 36 yrs old, juiced to the gills, and works out like a madman. I know its not factual but if you ask him, he'll tell you it was all the shit hes put into his body over the years.
Good enough for me.
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Quote:
Ahab McBathsalts said:
Dis. If it actually worked it would be illegal.
Perhaps. However, its possible a dietary supplement may go un-noticed. The products aren't reviewed or approved before marketing.
GNC has made a fortune marketing placebos.
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Re: Testosterone supplements [Re: badchad]
#23347668 - 06/15/16 02:55 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Besides, being ripped and buff is overrated.
It's like, what are you gonna do with your hunking ass body anyway? Lift washing machines with relative ease?
I've known dudes who got ripped cus they thought they'd get laid more, well they got ripped and still aren't getting laid.
Then I see dudes who go ham on getting ripped, spending money time effort. Then they loose it all in a few months of taking it easy.
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Re: Testosterone supplements [Re: trees]
#23347678 - 06/15/16 02:57 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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recreation. It's great for stress relief, healthy alternative to getting high all the time
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topdog82
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Re: Testosterone supplements [Re: trees]
#23347721 - 06/15/16 03:10 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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trees said: Besides, being ripped and buff is overrated.
It's like, what are you gonna do with your hunking ass body anyway? Lift washing machines with relative ease?
I've known dudes who got ripped cus they thought they'd get laid more, well they got ripped and still aren't getting laid.
Then I see dudes who go ham on getting ripped, spending money time effort. Then they loose it all in a few months of taking it easy.
I think its a nice confidence boost. There's nice health benefits
I just wanna not be fat, not have back problems and issues of mobility in old age, and be strong
Being large or sub 10% bodyfat year round is stupid. I do yoga about 4 times a week and try and strength train 3 times a week. I feel good. I am not even that large. I obviously look like I lift but its not that noticable. I have achieved those three goals
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Re: Testosterone supplements [Re: trees]
#23348379 - 06/15/16 06:29 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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trees said: Besides, being ripped and buff is overrated.
It's like, what are you gonna do with your hunking ass body anyway? Lift washing machines with relative ease?
I've known dudes who got ripped cus they thought they'd get laid more, well they got ripped and still aren't getting laid.
Then I see dudes who go ham on getting ripped, spending money time effort. Then they loose it all in a few months of taking it easy.
Lifting weights is fun. It's a good hobby to help stay in shape and make yourself stronger in the process. It takes a lot of time and dedication to get results, it isn't just about getting laid.
As for the supplements, I wouldn't trust that anything was legit without some type of studies either showing it is a testosterone prodrug or that it was actually active. 99% of the stuff on the market is bunk, why trust it? It isn't like they are required to do any testing to show efficiency. GNC isn't exactly a reputable company, and the Internet isn't exactly a good source of information considering there are thousands of shills online and many more people that see results because of the lifting rather than the supplements. Just my opinion though.
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Re: Testosterone supplements [Re: Moonshoe]
#23348628 - 06/15/16 08:05 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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You ever fuck with Shilajit?
I got a sample of it a while ago; it is a cornerstone of Ayurveda.
It increases testosterone by ~20% and I noticed impressive, rapid muscle gains while using it.
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Re: Testosterone supplements [Re: flickedbic]
#23348725 - 06/15/16 08:42 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Very interesting i will look into that for sure, never came across it before!
@whoever's buddy got testicular cancer- was he taking any of the things that are ingredients in this supplement? If not it has no relevance to this at all.
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Re: Testosterone supplements [Re: Moonshoe]
#23348763 - 06/15/16 08:50 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Certain ones work in for small results. They are good for what it seems OP used them for cutting up/more definition even though op didn't need to cut up. You look like one of those dudes who was born with a visible 6 pack.
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Re: Testosterone supplements [Re: Moonshoe] 1
#23349018 - 06/15/16 09:59 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well you have to consider the specific supplement. If you check it out, this one is all natural, just herbal stuff and vitamins, no "random chems".
I literally almost died from a heart attack on an 'all natural' herb. It was Ma Huang from which ephedra/ephedrine is extracted. I took one capsule and did cardio 8 hours later. My heart rate shot up to about 225 BPM and would not come down for 20 minutes after stopping my work out.
Many toxic substances are 'all natural' - that is not a selling point for safety.
As to Tribulis, testing again and again has come back with little to no effects. The vitamins and zinc will only help if you have an insufficient diet.
In you original post you alluded to working out many hours per day. I would surmise that this (overtraining) is what is holding you back from growth. 15 to 20 minutes per day of high intensity lifting is more than sufficient to stimulate hypertrophy.
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Yeah extracts and stims aren't worth the risk, I just use whey and betaine and I'm getting similar gains.
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Re: Testosterone supplements [Re: Middleman]
#23349111 - 06/15/16 10:28 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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No whey, dude!
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Re: Testosterone supplements [Re: Moonshoe]
#23349137 - 06/15/16 10:35 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Moonshoe said: About a month ago I started taking a "Testosterone Catalyst" called "Mr. T".
I take four pills a day before my workouts for three months (three bottles, I bottle = 1 month supply)
I wasn't sure how much to really expect, but was quite surprised to see that after being plateaued for what seems like forever (working out hours a day but not making any real muscle gains) my muscles rapidly began increasing in size and definition.
In particular my arms got rapidly larger, and that was the one area I most wanted to improve on.
My wife was shocked by how rapidly and significantly they had changed.
I got the supplement at GNC. I remember recently hearing Joe Rogan say many supplements sold at GNC are actually steroids.
The ingredient that I think has the biggest impact is the "Steroidal Extract of Tribulus" which basically is a natural steroid derived from a herb.
I have also noticed great increases in my strength and energy during workouts, although this could be placebo.
My wife and I held a cabin party recently and several of our friends who have known me all my life commented on how muscular I had become, and I was already fairly ripped, but now I am finally making further gains.
Here is a list of the ingredients:

My purpose in making this thread was simply to tip you guys off that from my experience at least, this stuff actually WORKS and is worth the considerable price tag.
The thing is, I am now 29. A male reaches his physical peak at 26 and then begins a long decline. A large part of this decline is caused by testosterone levels decreasing with age.
Resistance workouts (lifting weights) are one of the most important ways to slow aging.
So to my mind now that I am nearing 30, the time is right to begin testosterone supplementation.
The product is called Mr. T by Athletic Alliance.
Its herbal and non prescription and certified free of banned substances or drugs.
I don't work for them or anything like that, I just stopped in a GNC and this was the product the salesperson recommended.
I figured it was worth a shot and wasnt expecting much.
The crazy thing was even without working out much I started to get bigger, and when I started hitting the gym it accelerated.
Just wanted to share that for anyone else looking to gain muscle or slow aging.

Thanks for the tip. Im 36 and feel like a shit. Maybe i need this.
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