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Can I turn my monotub into a SGFC? **Update w/ Pics 1-28**
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So I've had bunches of problems and to be honest I was turned off from this hobby since I hadn't had a single mushroom grow.  I neglected my grows over the holidays and delayed from fruiting due to lack of caring.  Well I just opened up some of my shoe box containers that didn't look a full white like some of my others.  Lo and behold but I have some little mushrooms and a couple of bigger ones popping up. 

Lol so my question is, can I turn a large monotub (45 gallon) into a sgfc?  I guess I could cover up the big holes with gorilla tape and drill the 1/4" ones around it.  Would that work?  It's a little last minute since I need to throw those suckers into something tomorrow morning to help em out.

Edited by Mastermind729 (01/28/10 07:08 PM)

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Re: Can I turn my monotub into a SGFC? [Re: Mastermind729]
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yea sure you can


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Re: Can I turn my monotub into a SGFC? [Re: noobieshroomie]
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Sounds like it would work fine.  don't forget to drill bottom holes too!

By the way, shotgun style monotubs work well for me also, so you can probably still use it as a monotub in the future when you inevitably go bulk!


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Re: Can I turn my monotub into a SGFC? [Re: Mastermind729]
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Isn't that about the size of these?



If it is, they make really good PMP's:





That was a shabby MS strain. Better genes equal better results :thumbup:

Anyhow, I've gotten such great results from PMPs. I now grow in mini greenhouses, but, they give equivalent results. So, I highly recommend them.

Can you make a sgfc from your 45 gallon monotub? Sure. But, you could just as easily make it into a luxurious Poor Man's Pod (hell, maybe even easier), and then your FAE is automated, and you only need to mist your casings once a day, or so.

If you use a sgfc, around where I come from, you won't be getting high enough gas exchange. Or, if you do, they'll be too dry, and your abortion rate'll go up.

Rig in an ultrasonic humidifier to your PMP, on a timer, and now you don't need to mist either. :grin:

Hope that helps,

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Re: Can I turn my monotub into a SGFC? [Re: faceyneck]
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Heh those bricks of yours looks to be exactly what I'm using.  This is the tub I have:



The picture makes it look not as long as it really is.

So yeah it's similar to yours although I think mine might be deeper.  In fact I was thinking of making a little pvc rack eventually for it so that I can have a second story of bricks and pipe a cool mist into it. Maybe.

And I looked but I didn't see plans for a sg mono.  Is it just a regular mono design with the sg holes?

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Re: Can I turn my monotub into a SGFC? [Re: Mastermind729]
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Hey guys, thanks for the advice.  My sgfc is operational and they're flourishing.  It's not amazing as of yet, but it's enough for a few friends and I to walk Bourbon Street after the 5 Finger Death Punch concert next week :smile:  Thx!

Questions:

1).  I'm not sure when to harvest these things because they were initially pressed up against the plastic container malforming them a little.  So the caps might not open.  I'm gonna post pics of them tonight for advice.

2).  Since the first flush is coming after less than optimal fruiting conditions (neglect), is there a chance of a second flush being more normal?  I've heard of other flushes in mono's being present in the initial pinset.  So, in other words, can the brick pin again after picking?

3).  I have a mono that was also neglected.  It isn't contammed but that bastard looks mighty parched. Could I try and dunk it now to rehydrate before putting into fruiting conditions even though it hasn't had a first flush?  I'm not sure if there's a typical trend of failure or not in this circumstance.


Thanks guys!

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Re: Can I turn my monotub into a SGFC? [Re: Mastermind729]
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Pictures of the progress of my bricks.

Middle Brick




Whole Chamber




Right Brick Side B




Right Brick Side A




Left Brick


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Re: Can I turn my monotub into a SGFC? [Re: Mastermind729]
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Mastermind729 said:
Pictures of the progress of my bricks.

Middle Brick




Whole Chamber




Right Brick Side B




Right Brick Side A




Left Brick




There is no reason not to take those shroomies hehe. Theyll be fine, dont judge them just because theyre ugly!!

As for your monotub, mycelium is pretty resilient. If theres no contams then I cant see how dunking it and trying to fruit it could hurt anything, infact, it should be successful.

Hope this helps.

EDIT: How did your monotub fail though? The idea behind them is just leave it alone and collect your fruits at harvest time. If its drying out that means your holes are too big, try stuffing more polyfill in them or taping up some holes.

Edited by Kysmoker (01/23/10 09:43 PM)

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Re: Can I turn my monotub into a SGFC? [Re: Mastermind729]
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Those are some monster shrooms! What do you use for substrate? Any plans on cloning that biggun?

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Re: Can I turn my monotub into a SGFC? [Re: Mikeallojee]
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Aww shucks, thx :grin:  Coir and verm, 1.5 - 2 quarts verm per brick I believe.  I had run out of gypsum for that batch.  And I do plan on cloning, but I need to research it a bit more.  I need to figure out if taking a section by stabbing it with needle and making a LC out of it is truly cloning or not.

Funny thing is, I'm a total noob since I've been fighting bacterial problems that were totally shutting me down until recently.  I didn't realize that those boxes were fully colonized because they didn't look white, so I was taking the trays down to throw them out when I noticed the mushrooms pushing against the plastic.

Lol I have no idea if it's realistic but I hope to get 20-25 grams dried off of those by next weekend.

I'm so excited... my first mushies!!

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Re: Can I turn my monotub into a SGFC? [Re: Mastermind729]
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Oh! and it was WBS.

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Re: Can I turn my monotub into a SGFC? [Re: Kysmoker]
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Ah, the problem was the fact that my polyfil was too loose.  I'm still getting the hang of that actually.  I stopped putting all of my containers in trash bags to colonize. I've looked up info on bacteria and from what I understand some love fresh air and some love co2, and I guess the kind that's hanging around here love the co2 because I'd have the nasty bacterial smell after only a day in a trash bag.  So I just stuffed the holes for colonization but did it too loose when I should've just taped them.  I also didn't have a lid on with a window for light yet.  That and it sat in colonizing conditions for 3 weeks :smile:

I'm probably gonna dunk it tomorrow to rehydrate.  Any suggestions on how long?

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Re: Can I turn my monotub into a SGFC? [Re: Mastermind729]
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Updates as of a few minutes ago.











Man that big one must be bigger than I think because of how large it looks next to that 2 inch hole.


So, is there any way to pick the big one and leave the rest of the cluster, or should I give it time and let the spores drop while the rest of the cluster grows?

Edited by Mastermind729 (01/24/10 11:37 AM)

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Re: Can I turn my monotub into a SGFC? [Re: Mastermind729]
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no i would pick it b4 they drop


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Re: Can I turn my monotub into a SGFC? [Re: HaywoodJablomi]
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The whole cluster or should I exacto off the bigger one?

Lol that sounds dumb but I'm trying to let the small ones grow out

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Re: Can I turn my monotub into a SGFC? [Re: Mastermind729]
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Ahh my first picked shroom.  This one opened and wasn't in a cluster.  Yum!



Hmm, any answer on the cluster question is appreciated also.  I need to do something with them tomorrow.

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Re: Can I turn my monotub into a SGFC? [Re: Mastermind729]
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I would make the attempt to pick it without disturbing the rest of the cluster... Do it by very gently rotating the stem without really pulling on it.  It might just dislodge itself cleanly.

Worst case is you accidentally pull a few neighbors, but then leave some behind to mature.

In a pinch you can also cut it out with a sharp knife, but I try to avoid that.


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Re: Can I turn my monotub into a SGFC? [Re: gornyhuy]
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Ah thx. Are there certain possible problems that could pop up if I end up trying to use an exacto to surgically remove it?

Oh and what's the best way to tell when my misshapen ones are ready since the caps won't open?

Edited by Mastermind729 (01/25/10 01:39 AM)

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Re: Can I turn my monotub into a SGFC? [Re: Mastermind729]
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Thanks again gornyhuy, I went ahead and picked some more this afternoon.


Total wet weight = 304.4 grams.  With more to go.


The monster




and my current tray full.


Edited by Mastermind729 (01/25/10 04:19 PM)

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Re: Can I turn my monotub into a SGFC? [Re: Mastermind729]
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My current wet weight = 568.4 grams.  Here's some more pictures.


The remainder on the right brick.




My middle brick is starting to pin quite nicely.




And the fatty on the left brick.




And for those of you who care enough to read my post.  I have 3 prints (my first) that I have ready.  Who wants em? Post if you do, and then we can do everything via encrypted messaging.  I'll a few more tomorrow to give away.  And btw, I'm not sure which strain they are, either AC or Tx.


Oh, and can someone tell me if it is advisable to dunk that right brick?  I have a couple of mushrooms I'm picking tomorrow so that would leave a few pins on it when I dunk.  How long?

thanx!

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